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Pick one, because they are all four going in the first round. Would love to have Barrett Jones but Terrence Williams would be a flyer that is currently needed.
Agree on Austin although I have seen some say he will be the first WR taken, I don't think so. Not sure if Lacy will go in round 1 but this years RB class is slim pickens
I also like Jonathan Franklin from UCLA, & Stepfan Tayor for Stanford or Kejon Barner. I have seen Kenjon tear it up since high school and he is a really hard worker
Stedman Baily is another good slot WR, both are quick but small
so will likely go in 2nd or 3rd
I wouldn't be surprised if we take Swope in 3-5 range
Dion Jordan would be a solid first round pick, could be Aldon Smith like
dolphin Wrote:
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> It does not matter who you have at WR when the
> receviers all run 5 yard routes and the time they
> do go deep the QB can't hit them.
Yes you are right.
Our WR's are AWESOME...top to bottom best 5 in the league.
Now all we need to do is get a QB and an OC who know how to make uyse of them.
maybe we can bring back Chad Henne and Dan Henning for next year???
Wes Welker has had a pretty nice career turning 5 yard passes into big plays
We really need to add:
Mike Wallace the deep threat
Another top WR or two in the draft, (I really like Rashard Matthews we need to start playing him, he has more separation ability) A quick slot receiver would give us two deep threats
a quality RB(Chris Ivory could be a nice FA pickup)
some OL help and a TE(Jared Cook?)
Shore up a few holes on the D. Get a top safety and a pass rusher opposite Wake
berkeley223 Wrote:
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> anyone want to see any Tedd Ginn Jr Ohio State
> highlights. MAn that guy is gonna be awesome in
> the pros!!
Have you seen Pat White from West Virginia? This guys a beast!
We need to go defense in the first Round. Sorry. Its a sore spot that needs shuring up.We have 6 picks in the first 90. Wide reciver will most definitely be addressed as well as O Lineman.
We need a CB if we are going to compete with the Pats, Broncos, Texans who are the top teams in the AFC.
We are basically fielding backup players and ST's players in our secondary with the exception of Smith and Jones.
Smith will be much better with a quality CB opposite him. A little help at FS wouldn't hurt either. Clemons is not good enough even though he has elite speed. He's just not a football player.
TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> We need to go defense in the first Round. Sorry.
> Its a sore spot that needs shuring up.We have 6
> picks in the first 90. Wide reciver will most
> definitely be addressed as well as O Lineman.
I think it's bpa in round one at any position except qb and RB.
Looks like we'll be picking in that 8-15 range again.
If its defense it needs to be a stud pass rusher. I know we need CB's but a better pass rush makes everyone on defense better.
If the season ended today we would be picking 13th I believe. (Was vs NYG tonight)
Here is the draft order as of today assuming 13th...and a quick mock.
1 KC Geno Smith, QB
2 Jax Star Lotulelei, NT
3 Phi Luke Joeckel
4 Oak Manti Teo, MLB, LT
5 Car Jarvis Jones, DE
6 Ten Jonathon Hankins, DT
7 SD Dee Miliner, CB
8 Det Bjoern Werner, DE
9 Cle Barkevious Mingo, OLB,DE
10 AZ Taylor Lewan, OT
11 NYJ Sam Montgomery, DE
12 NO Jonathon Jenkins, DT
13 Mia...take your pick...
Keenan Allen WR
Demontre Moore DE
Jonathon Banks CB
Once again we are on the outside looking in at the top tier talent
THE Truth Wrote:
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> dolphin Wrote:
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> -----
> > It does not matter who you have at WR when the
> > receviers all run 5 yard routes and the time
> they
> > do go deep the QB can't hit them.
>
>
> Yes you are right.
>
> Our WR's are AWESOME...top to bottom best 5 in the
> league.
>
> Now all we need to do is get a QB and an OC who
> know how to make uyse of them.
>
> maybe we can bring back Chad Henne and Dan Henning
> for next year???
Tannehill missed two wide open deep passes today, and a third deep in the end zone. Our WRs are getting open, Tannehill is not connecting.
eesti Wrote:
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> If the season ended today we would be picking 13th
> I believe. (Was vs NYG tonight)
>
> Here is the draft order as of today assuming
> 13th...and a quick mock.
>
> 1 KC Geno Smith, QB
> 2 Jax Star Lotulelei, NT
> 3 Phi Luke Joeckel
> 4 Oak Manti Teo, MLB, LT
> 5 Car Jarvis Jones, DE
> 6 Ten Jonathon Hankins, DT
> 7 SD Dee Miliner, CB
> 8 Det Bjoern Werner, DE
> 9 Cle Barkevious Mingo, OLB,DE
> 10 AZ Taylor Lewan, OT
> 11 NYJ Sam Montgomery, DE
> 12 NO Jonathon Jenkins, DT
> 13 Mia...take your pick...
>
> Keenan Allen WR
> Demontre Moore DE
> Jonathon Banks CB
>
> Once again we are on the outside looking in at the
> top tier talent
THE Truth Wrote:
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> dolphin Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It does not matter who you have at WR when the
> > receviers all run 5 yard routes and the time
> they
> > do go deep the QB can't hit them.
>
>
> Yes you are right.
>
> Our WR's are AWESOME...top to bottom best 5 in the
> league.
>
> Now all we need to do is get a QB and an OC who
> know how to make uyse of them.
>
> maybe we can bring back Chad Henne and Dan Henning
> for next year???
eesti Wrote:
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> We just have to take the BPA at 13...whoever that
> turns out to be.
>
> We have to hit big time on that pick. Like a JPP
> (15) in 2010 or a Brian Cushing (15) in 09.
If there's a guy you like there at 13 and you believe he's a foundation player then take him.
If there isn't one guy you love or have to have...then trade down.
If the draft went that way and we had to pick at 13 with no trade down I'd take Keenan Allen. He's perfect for our system. Give me stedman bailey in the 2nd or 3rd and we are going to gave a dynamic passing game in two years.
Of course all of this is going to change with post season workouts and the combine. Guys are going to move up. Others are going to fall.
I don't know much about Keenan Allen, read about him, saw some youtube video, and am unable to see any special attributes right now. Care to opine TRUTH and Chyren. Do you really think he would/could become a top-notch #1 WR? If so, why?
Wr's and QB's are the toughest positions to project at the NFL level.
Its not a coincidence that they have the highest failure rates for 1st round picks. So much of what they do in the NFL is beyond the physical attributes and more mental. Its hard enough for NFL GM's to get it right on these guys and they do psychological profiles, thorough background checks, wonderlic type IQ tests and personal interviews. Its impossible for fans and people outside that process to have the info needed to make an accurate assessment, let alone an educated guess.
But we are fans...so we do it anyway...
I like Keenan Allen. But I don't know him. Like you, I've seen a few of his games, watched what there is to watch on Youtube.
What I see that I like is a guy with terrific size/speed. I like his agility and his quickness out of his breaks. I like that he catches the ball with his hands and that he's an elusive runner after the catch.
I have no idea if he's up to the job of being an NFL WR in our system but I think his skill set and background make him one of the two or three best WR's in this class and the one that is probably the best fit for what we do.
That said, I wouldn't be upset if we didn't draft him or if we traded down. I don't like the way this draft class is shaping up so far as impact players in our need area's. And there are other WR's who can be had after the 1st round who can be impact players in this system.
Its really early in the process so there's limited information availbe to fans like us, but based on what I've seen this season there are 4 players in the 1st round I'm really interested in and I don't think we'll be in a position to draft any of them without trading up:
Manti T'eo, MLB ND
Jarvis Jones, OLB UGA
Boejern Warner, DE FSU
Luke Joekel, OT Tex A&M