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Looking at the Box Score....
Posted by: DolfanKing ()
Date: September 30, 2012 03:23PM

We dominated AZ in every category except two:

MIA AZ
Red Zone (Made-Att) 1-3 2-3
Turnovers 4 2

The Rookie QB had trouble scoring the in end zone and made a critical INT at the end of the game.

If you want to know why we lost, that is why.

Hopefully he learns from these mistakes.

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Miami Dolphins. Always Perfect.

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Re: Looking at the Box Score....
Posted by: jimmmyd3 ()
Date: September 30, 2012 03:26PM

Coaching is why we lost.

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Posted by: dolphan4545 ()
Date: September 30, 2012 04:37PM

We lost because we turned the ball over twice in the 4th QTR and once in OT. This Ryan Tannehill-led offense seems to make just enough mistakes to lose the game. In Texas, he led several 3-and-outs before the offense self distructed with 3 turnovers just before the half. The same thing happened against Oakland, but it didn't matter, so wasn't discussed. Against the Jets and again this week, the offense gave the ball away late to lose games that we seemed to have well in hand. These are rookie mistakes that will be corrected, but I still believe that starting a rookie QB in these early games was a mistake.

Rick

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Re: Looking at the Box Score....
Posted by: GBOFinFan ()
Date: September 30, 2012 04:57PM

We lost the game because the coaches called a passing play on a clear running down. We could've either run the clock down to the two minute warning or made az burn their time outs.

They called a run, lane missed a block, and the rest is history.

Get out of here with the rt hating. The dude carried this team today.

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Re: Looking at the Box Score....
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: September 30, 2012 05:25PM


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Re: Looking at the Box Score....
Posted by: DolfanKing ()
Date: September 30, 2012 07:00PM

dolphan4545 Wrote:
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> We lost because we turned the ball over twice in
> the 4th QTR and once in OT. This Ryan
> Tannehill-led offense seems to make just enough
> mistakes to lose the game. In Texas, he led
> several 3-and-outs before the offense self
> distructed with 3 turnovers just before the half.
> The same thing happened against Oakland, but it
> didn't matter, so wasn't discussed. Against the
> Jets and again this week, the offense gave the
> ball away late to lose games that we seemed to
> have well in hand.


Yup.


> These are rookie mistakes that
> will be corrected, but I still believe that
> starting a rookie QB in these early games was a
> mistake.

I agree.

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Re: Looking at the Box Score....
Posted by: DolfanKing ()
Date: September 30, 2012 07:02PM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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>
>
> I wish DK would go away but he won't because his
> problem is medical and he needs some electro-shock
> therapy to cure his fixation.

I think I will use that as my signature when my bet expires.

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Miami Dolphins. Always Perfect.

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Re: Looking at the Box Score....
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: September 30, 2012 07:22PM

I'll drink to that. smileys with beer

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Re: Looking at the Box Score....
Date: September 30, 2012 10:09PM

DolfanKing Wrote:
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> We dominated AZ in every category except two:
>
> MIA AZ
> Red Zone (Made-Att) 1-3 2-3
> Turnovers 4 2
>
> The Rookie QB had trouble scoring the in end zone
> and made a critical INT at the end of the game.
>
> If you want to know why we lost, that is why.
>
> Hopefully he learns from these mistakes.


Its also why we almost WON. But your medical condition refuses to let yourself see the positives. Do us a favor and find a new board.

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Re: Looking at the Box Score....
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: October 01, 2012 04:54AM

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/01/2012 06:13AM by samsam3738.

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Re: Looking at the Box Score....
Posted by: socalphin ()
Date: October 01, 2012 06:02AM

OK, let's take a look at the Box Scores...

MIA AZ
1st Downs 21 19

Tot Yds 480 297

Passing 394 269

Ints 2-31 2-5

Comp-Att 26-41(63%) 29-48 (60%)

TOP 35:00 31:31

I dont see the QB losing this game for us. And only one of the picks was his fault(unless the rec ran the wrong route), he was hit from behind during the throw causing the lame pass in OT.

Looks to me that it was the pass defense(secondary), that had a much larger role in this loss than the QB.

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Re: Looking at the Box Score....
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: October 01, 2012 07:21AM

socalphin Wrote:
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> OK, let's take a look at the Box Scores...
>
> MIA AZ
> 1st Downs 21 19
>
> Tot Yds 480 297
>
> Passing 394 269
>
> Ints 2-31 2-5
>
> Comp-Att 26-41(63%) 29-48 (60%)
>
> TOP 35:00 31:31
>
> I dont see the QB losing this game for us. And
> only one of the picks was his fault(unless the rec
> ran the wrong route), he was hit from behind
> during the throw causing the lame pass in OT.
>
> Looks to me that it was the pass
> defense(secondary), that had a much larger role in
> this loss than the QB.

Hartline slipped on the other Int, and it was a timing pattern...so Tannehill had to throw it before Hartline got there. Neither Int were on Tanny.

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Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: October 01, 2012 07:56AM

tannehill is the first qb weve had since dan marino that can throw the football when the receiver hasnt even made a cut yet and still be on point.

thats something thats hard to teach.

Did you all see that yesterday....the dam homer announcer was even saying it...

It doesnt hurt that hartline can really run a route like a mother too.

Where are the hartline haters today?

I thought you all wanted him traded or something.....I still remember that.

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Posted by: dolphin ()
Date: October 01, 2012 08:09AM

I've said all along Hartline and Bess are very good receivers. Bess cannot be covered.

Tannehill went away from Bess on several plays where Bess was wide open. That is Tannehills fault, he gets locked on a receiver and forces some throws....int!

Hartline was open a lot last few years with Henne, but Henne would not throw the ball.

Stupid call on 2nd and 2 late in the game too. the ole pitch back 5 yards play and lost 9. I was screaming WTF when i saw that play called.

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Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: October 01, 2012 09:22AM

Me too on the WTF. No way in that situation do you risk a pitch back. We were lucky it was not a fumble and turnover.

I tell you. This coaching is probably worse than Sparano.

As far as Tannehill getting locked on receivers, the ball is out of his hands so fast, I don't know whether you can say its locked.

The announcers were amazed at how fast he gets rid of the ball.

That's the same type of offense they ran when he was with the Aggies.

I think its just good defense anticipation...or lucky moves on the part of the defender because I think RT's passes come TOO FAST for someone to say he's locked on a receiver.

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Posted by: dolphan4545 ()
Date: October 02, 2012 04:54PM

Talk about a hater. Philbin has this team ready to play, and in shape. He may not have a rookie year as good as Sparano's(I always thought that was a product of Pennington's quarterbacking anyway), but I'm betting on him in the long run. Just listening to him on podcasts, he inspires confidence.

Rick

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Posted by: eesti ()
Date: October 02, 2012 06:19PM

This is ALMOST comical.

You can't place the blame on ANY one person as much as you would like to make RT look bad. It's a team sport.

Really....????

Not the "critical" TD given up by Sean Smith AND Richard Marshall?

The give-away by NanuNanu?

The missed protection by Incog and Lane?

The missed FG?

Give me a break.

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“I'm here" You're welcome!" - Kenny Powers

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Posted by: DolfanKing ()
Date: October 02, 2012 07:28PM

eesti Wrote:
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> This is ALMOST comical.
>


I can't make you like the stats only show them to you. These were the only two stats where we were behind.

Our QB was responsible for 3 turnovers. Our QB's accuracy went out the door when we got inside the twenty.

I don't think thats funny.

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Posted by: eesti ()
Date: October 03, 2012 03:27AM

No but you sure like to pick and choose and ignore the other stats....

Missed FG, Fumble by nanu...etc.

You just like playing the "I told you so" card any chance you get to make it about RT. Only problem is you are being short sighted once again.

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Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: October 03, 2012 03:30AM

Dolphanking is always going to find a way to blame tannehill. For everything.

What was troy aikmans record his first year?

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Posted by: montequi ()
Date: October 03, 2012 04:19AM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> Dolphanking is always going to find a way to blame
> tannehill. For everything.
>
> What was troy aikmans record his first year?

How about Peyton Mannings?

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Re: Looking at the Box Score....
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: October 03, 2012 05:49AM

John Elway....

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“I'm here" You're welcome!" - Kenny Powers

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Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: October 03, 2012 12:27PM

dolphan4545 Wrote:
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> Talk about a hater. Philbin has this team ready to
> play, and in shape. He may not have a rookie year
> as good as Sparano's(I always thought that was a
> product of Pennington's quarterbacking anyway),
> but I'm betting on him in the long run. Just
> listening to him on podcasts, he inspires
> confidence.

RICK, we oughta give Philbin hell for dumbas_ decisions when he makes them PARTICULARLY in his first year.

If you're silent, you'll see these mistakes repeated OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

And he will justify those mistakes with the same lame excuses that I hear on this chatboard for blowing the field goal in the Jets overtime and the crucial sack fumble in the Arizona game.

ONce he catches enough fire for those choices, he is unlikely to repeat them anytime soon.

The best explanation I have heard is that he is trying to be the opposite of Conservative Sparano.

If that's true, it is time to let him know that there IS such a thing as going to far on the other end.

If not sucking up and forgiving mistakes you would laugh about if those mistakes were made by a competing coach is being a "hater" then I am guilty.

But I would venture that in the long run my criticisms of the coaching, if taken to heart by them, will do the team far more good than scratching your head and trying to come up with a way to defend every bad move.

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Posted by: socalphin ()
Date: October 03, 2012 12:40PM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> dolphan4545 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----

> But I would venture that in the long run my
> criticisms of the coaching, if taken to heart by
> them, will do the team far more good than
> scratching your head and trying to come up with a
> way to defend every bad move.

",,.my criticisms of the coaching, if taken to heart by them,...

ROTFLMFAO.....HILARIOUS!!!!!!

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Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: October 03, 2012 12:57PM

You guys who say, look at Elway and Aikman they were awful their first year so Tannehill will be fine is kind of foolish, if you think about it... I could line up 100 QB's who were awful in their first year that completely failed out of the NFL, and you can name 2 or 3 and therefore we should feel fine about Tannehill.... Do you guys see the irony in the argument and example you are making...
I am not saying Tannehill isnt going to be successful, after last weeks perfomance I am sure everybody is excited to see what the next week's and months hold.. But the example, doesnt make any sense... 2 or 3 percent of QB's who were awful in their rookie year during a 30 year time period went on to the HOF, so dont worry...lol...

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All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.
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Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: October 03, 2012 02:22PM

socalphin Wrote:
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> ChyrenB Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > But I would venture that in the long run my
> > criticisms of the coaching, if taken to heart
> by
> > them, will do the team far more good than
> > scratching your head and trying to come up with
> a
> > way to defend every bad move.
>
> ",,.my criticisms of the coaching, if taken to
> heart by them,...
>
> ROTFLMFAO.....HILARIOUS!!!!!!


.....errr.....you do know that Philbin has been criticized by others on various media for this very move (like he was for not cutting Nee Nee Na na) and you DO KNOW that when I said "my" criticisms, I did not mean that he was reading this board and looking at MY posts in particular....you do know that don't you...........well, maybe I'm giving you too much credit...maybe you don't.

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Posted by: montequi ()
Date: October 03, 2012 05:13PM

That's not the point we're making. The point is don't judge a rookie QB by the number of games he wins in his first year.

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Posted by: socalphin ()
Date: October 03, 2012 07:46PM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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>
>
> .....errr.....you do know that Philbin has been
> criticized by others on various media for this
> very move (like he was for not cutting Nee Nee Na
> na) and you DO KNOW that when I said "my"
> criticisms, I did not mean that he was reading
> this board and looking at MY posts in
> particular....you do know that don't
> you...........well, maybe I'm giving you too much
> credit...maybe you don't.

Sorry Chy that I didnt do any research on one of your previous whiney threads to understand what the hell you're chryen about this time.

for all I know, judging from your posts, you could be the same "a$$#0!e" that asked Ireland to "fire himself" during halftime of the Raider game. Someone who would send endless emails to Ireland to impart words of "wisdom" that he just doesn't seem to heed.


You really lost me at:
"I tell you. This coaching is probably worse than Sparano".

You really come across as a clueless armchair QB/Coach who doesn't really know what your talking about with a limited football IQ, and who judges from hindsight.

Sorry, just my opinion based solely on your posts.

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Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: October 03, 2012 09:41PM


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Date: October 04, 2012 04:24AM


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