I know this guy is a knucklehead but any thoughts of trading for him??

No

I'm torn on this one.

Like most things in the NFL I suppose it comes down to price.

If the draft pick was a 3rd or less, and his contract was team friendly, I think I'd roll the dice on this one.

He's a special player.

To me he's nothing more than a more expensive version of Bess.

IMHO I feel like what you gain with his talent, you lose in his unpredictable migranes that seem to sideline him a couple games a year.

gofish55 Wrote:
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> To me he's nothing more than a more expensive
> version of Bess.

Seriously?

Harvin has 20 receiving TD's, 4 rushing TD's and 5 kick returns for TD's in 54 career games without a QB half as good as Tannehill.

Bess averages a yard less per reception and has 12 touchdowns of any variety in 77 games.

I like Bess, but as a talent, he's not in Harvin's league. He's not even close.



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> IMHO I feel like what you gain with his talent,
> you lose in his unpredictable migranes that seem
> to sideline him a couple games a year.



That's a fair point. Its why I wouldn't give up anything more than a 3rd or 4th for him and I wouldn't give him huge money.

I think we need more. Not that much of a knucklehead but we need more bang for the buck.He might be what we need for Hartline (if we keep him) but like Hartline I am not dropping big money on this guy.

Not a chance. Not with the red flag on his migraine issues, and his repeated issues for confrontations with coaches. Pretty safe to assume that the latter means he is of no interest to Philbin.

Hopefully lessons learned about giving up picks for flawed players. The guy is a playmaker but he has never started 16 games in a season (in 4 years)...or had 1k receiving...or more than 6 td's receiving.

To much slash for way too much cash.

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THE Truth Wrote:
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> gofish55 Wrote:
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> > To me he's nothing more than a more expensive
> > version of Bess.
>
> Seriously?
>
> Harvin has 20 receiving TD's, 4 rushing TD's and 5
> kick returns for TD's in 54 career games without a
> QB half as good as Tannehill.
>
> Bess averages a yard less per reception and has 12
> touchdowns of any variety in 77 games.
>
> I like Bess, but as a talent, he's not in Harvin's
> league. He's not even close.
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>
>
> >
> > IMHO I feel like what you gain with his talent,
> > you lose in his unpredictable migranes that
> seem
> > to sideline him a couple games a year.
>
>
>
> That's a fair point. Its why I wouldn't give up
> anything more than a 3rd or 4th for him and I
> wouldn't give him huge money.

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Harvin is a damn good player and would be an asset to any NFL team, but....

He is a head case, both literally and figuratively. Those migraines concern me. Plus, I read where he has had a few run-ins with his coaches. I highly doubt that is something Philbin would want to take on.

I don't see Harvin going to Miami.

As Truth said, Percy is a special player... and in Gainesville he was a beast.. Without him Tebow doesn't get 2 championships.. If you can protect yourself from the migraine issue and can handle him as Meyer did, you would be a fool not to try and get him on the roster... Percy didn't have any of these problems at UF, medical nor personality.. He was known to have a lot of anger issues on the field in high school I believe.. Never saw it in college... That run Farve had in Minnesota had a lot to do with Percy as well... But I understand why some are skeptical about signing him..

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I am a big Gator fan and remember Harvin well. The migraine issues are there and you just don't know when they will pop up. Harvin is used to winning and not sure if he could handle being in MIA. I think he is destined to GB, New England or SF or a team w/ a coach who is strong and loose at the same time Fisher in StL or Pete Carrol.

I'm not sure if anyone is going to give him the big money unless he stays in MIN.

Maybe his headache issue is the same as Csonka's where it turned out to be a really poor fitting helmet. Just wondering

Hooligan2 Wrote:
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> Maybe his headache issue is the same as Csonka's
> where it turned out to be a really poor fitting
> helmet. Just wondering


I got headaches from my first high school helmet in the '80's until I convinced the coaches that this had never happened to me and that I believed it was b/c the helmet put too much pressure on my forehead. Changed helmets and I never had another headache (caused by my poor fitting helmet anyway).

I only took me a couple practices to figure it out. I'm sure that was the first thing they ruled out.

That said...I agree with Truth, for the right price, he'd be a welcome playmaker to the offense.

Was this a random thought or has there been talk of Harvin on the trading block?

Latest rumor is that Harvin is headed to NE to take over at slot for Welker.

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eesti Wrote:
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> Latest rumor is that Harvin is headed to NE to
> take over at slot for Welker.


The belief in New England (where I live) is that the Patriots will franchise tag Welker for one season.

The Pats are a team that could take on Harvin, though. With Belichick and Brady, they can take on a problem child and try to make him toe the line. Miami doesn't have that luxury.

I do not want to see Harvin in NE. He would be a nightmare in the slot in that system.

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Except he thinks he is god's gift and probably wants closer to 10 mil.....

for a receiver that averages 825 yards a year and 6 TD's? 170 yards rushing... No thanks....

Plus a 2nd rounder? no way I pass on a glutton of 2nd round WR prospects for an occasion big play/slot reciver with Migrains and a bad attitude and that does not respect coaches.

I would rather resign Bush and use him more as a receiver.

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i don't think he's going to get 10mm given his migrane and personality issues but we'll see

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I don't think he's going to get it either but that doesn't mean he won't ask for it which may slow down negotiations since no team will sign him without an accepted offer.

The problem I see with him is that he could not even get along with Leslie Frazier. One of the most even keeled coaches around.

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He has never got along with coaches. Any of them. Going back to at least college. Philbin will never even consider this guy.

Some knucklehead Dolphins fan called Sirius NFL radio this morning and suggested we trade the freshly minted Brian Hartline for Percy Harvin, god I hope he isn't a poster on this forum.........on second thought, Chyren what were you doing this morning?

Very funny but I am famous for taking the position that we should draft Keenan Allen or Corradelle Patterson AND NOT GO INTO THE FREE AGENCY MARKET FOR A WIDE RECEIVER AT ALL.

Thank you, however, for providing me the opportunity to wear out the forum with this position that I have taken over and over and over again and I'm sure the rest of the posters are cursing you under their breath for providing me the opportunity to (as one poster put it) "sound like a broken record."

Harvin trades to Seahawks. This makes minn a bigger competitor for Wallace

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berkeley223 Wrote:
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> Harvin trades to Seahawks. This makes minn a
> bigger competitor for Wallace


Big trade.

Minnesota gets Seattle's 1st and 7th this year and a mid round pick next year.

how'd we get just 2 3ds for Marshall?
Harvin is as much of a head case as BM (literally (migranes) and figuratively) and got a 1st and 2 other picks.

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Christian Ponder, Frigid, sub zero temperatures

Ryan Tannehill, Tropical Paradise

I would think we have the edge. That gives Minnesota picks 23 & 25 in the draft.

Wallace's family lives in New Orleans, where he grew up. You know he doesn't want to leave Pittsburgh to go where it's even colder.

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