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QBs since Marino
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: May 04, 2012 05:27AM

I've seen this come up on other threads, so I figured it would be interesting to see how people rate the QBs we've had since Dan. It's not really fair to include Tannehill yet, but maybe you guys will have an opinion about where he will eventually land.

Here is my top 5:

1. Chad Pennington (for the one year he was healthy)
2. Jay Fiedler (BEFORE he hurt his shoulder)
3. Gus Frerotte (the forgotten man. He was really good when he was here)
4. Matt Moore
5. Chad Henne

As for Tannehill, I think he'll make #2 on this list (because I'm only considering Penny's 11-win season...which was a miracle in itself). I think Tanny will be better than Fiedler. At least, I HOPE so!!

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Re: QBs since Marino
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: May 04, 2012 06:13AM

Why would you have henne ranked?

He is a bust.

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Re: QBs since Marino
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: May 04, 2012 06:13AM

How about joey harrington #6. He was better than henne.

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Re: QBs since Marino
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: May 04, 2012 06:27AM

Pennington was good.

Fielder was solid and had a few moments.

Everyone else was a backup pretending to be a starter.

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Re: QBs since Marino
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: May 04, 2012 06:32AM

Why do people critisize fiedler so much and love pennington..?

I have nothing against the two....I symphasize with both

But we made the playoffs with both one year and exited the first game.

same outcome with both..

we even won more games with fiedler

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Maybe they love pennington because while he was here we were able to beat the jets. We even beat the jets the last game of the season on that playoff year to become the afc east champs.

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Re: QBs since Marino
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: May 04, 2012 06:35AM

I remember fiedler having many good games. didnt we beat the colts and payton manning in the playoffs when lamar smith rushed for 200 yards.

I had more fun watching the phins when fiedler was here than when pennington was here...

Scratch off that monday night miracle.

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Re: QBs since Marino
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: May 04, 2012 06:37AM

I had to drink a couple of librax to go to sleep after that monday night miracle game.

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Re: QBs since Marino
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: May 04, 2012 06:41AM

As much as this hurts to say (and shows how terrible the position has been for us) Jay Fiedler is definantly better than Matt Moore, Chad Henne, Gus Frerrote, and due to only 1 season....better than Pennington too.

We won a playoff game with Fiedler, didn't with any of those other guys.

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Re: QBs since Marino
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: May 04, 2012 06:44AM

Aqua&Orange Wrote:

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> We won a playoff game with Fiedler, didn't with
> any of those other guys.

we beat the seahawks with fiedler in the playoffs and went twice to the playoffs with him..

I dont think it was more than 2 times...Maybe i forgot something

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Re: QBs since Marino
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: May 04, 2012 06:48AM

Didn't we beat Peyton Manning and the Colts? Lamar Smith had a MONSTER game!!!

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Re: QBs since Marino
Posted by: Hooligan2 ()
Date: May 04, 2012 06:52AM

I can think of at least a couple of QBs that didn't get a fair shot to be great due to our frequent turn-over of coaches. AJ Feeley gets alot of heat here but was clearly developing as a very capable QB. This past season he led the hapless Rams to an impressive win over the Saints when Bradford went down. During his carreer he always seemed to land on teams with established franchise QBs.

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Re: QBs since Marino
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: May 04, 2012 07:41AM

Feeley is absolutely terrible. He was pulled from games this past year for looking like a complete baffoon.

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Re: QBs since Marino
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: May 04, 2012 07:56AM

So lets make a thread sking posters who was the worst phins QB of alltime..

I nominate feelie for that award....or maybe john beck?

John Beck = talk about shitting in the pants and fumbling the ball every time the ball was snapped. Seemed he had vaseline on his hands.

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Re: QBs since Marino
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: May 04, 2012 08:00AM

And to think there was some genious commentator who said when john beck was drafted....that he was the perfect fit for the phins with his great accuracy and arm. WTF


I could be a commentator and i dont know jack...

I bet you i will hit a quite a few players as far as saying they will be superstars..

Just praise every dam one of them....Sooner or later im going to be right.

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Re: QBs since Marino
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: May 04, 2012 08:03AM

Maybe they didnt praise mr irrelevant because he is the last player drafted and is such a piece of $h!T.

Was there ever a mister irrelevant that turned out great?

Maybe that old fart they had anouncing the mr irrelevant pick was one of the ones that turned out great! smiling smiley

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Re: QBs since Marino
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: May 04, 2012 08:13AM

Culpepper may be the worst of all time takin in considerations and expectations he came here with.

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Re: QBs since Marino
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: May 04, 2012 08:42AM

john beck was the worst. I will never forget that bills game when he Garo'd the pass and the bills returned it for a TD. They showed him on the sidelines after that and he looked completely terrified.

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Re: QBs since Marino
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: May 04, 2012 08:50AM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> Why would you have henne ranked?
>
> He is a bust.

I put Henne there because of his number of starts, and the fact that we won at least 7 games each season he wasn't hurt. YOU try coming up with 5. Harrington? Lemon? Rosenfels? Thigpen? How would YOU rank them?

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Re: QBs since Marino
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: May 04, 2012 08:51AM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> How about joey harrington #6. He was better than
> henne.

I can see that argument. Coming up with #5 was REALLY tough.

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Re: QBs since Marino
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: May 04, 2012 08:52AM

Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> As much as this hurts to say (and shows how
> terrible the position has been for us) Jay Fiedler
> is definantly better than Matt Moore, Chad Henne,
> Gus Frerrote, and due to only 1 season....better
> than Pennington too.
>
> We won a playoff game with Fiedler, didn't with
> any of those other guys.

It was a tough choice for me. Penny's 11-win season was frigging amazing (wasn't he 2nd in MVP voting?), but I can see how, overall, Fiedler was better..when he was healthy. On the other hand, after his shoulder injury, Fiedler was horrible.

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Posted by: montequi ()
Date: May 04, 2012 08:53AM

Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> Didn't we beat Peyton Manning and the Colts? Lamar
> Smith had a MONSTER game!!!

I think Smith was the reason we won that game. NOT Fiedler.

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Re: QBs since Marino
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: May 04, 2012 08:54AM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> So lets make a thread sking posters who was the
> worst phins QB of alltime..
>
> I nominate feelie for that award....or maybe john
> beck?
>
> John Beck = talk about shitting in the pants and
> fumbling the ball every time the ball was snapped.
> Seemed he had vaseline on his hands.

Good idea. My pick: Pat White.

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Re: QBs since Marino
Posted by: dolphin1423 ()
Date: May 04, 2012 12:34PM

I remember Fiedler for two things in particular.

1) That Oakland game, one week after 9/11, where he scrambled at the end of the game for a touchdown and the win. Amazing.

2) The only home Fins game I have ever attended. We played Arizona when they had Emmitt Smith. We had one last chance at a hail mary and Fiedler threw this duck that went about 35 yards. It was the worst hail mary pass I have ever seen.

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Re: QBs since Marino
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: May 04, 2012 02:35PM

The worst starting QB we've ever had was...Dick Wood. The worst full time starter we've ever had was David Woodley. We went to the superbowl because of our defense and Don Strock coming off of the bench.

So here is the list: Best to worst.

1. Marino...obviously.
2. Griese...obiously.
3. Morrall
4. Feidler...even though after his first season I HATED him.
5. Pennington...because he only played one year.
6. Strock
7. Woodley
8. Moore
9. Henne
10. Frerotte
11. Feeley
12. B. Griese
13. Mitchell
14. DeBerg
15. Huard
16. Beck
17. Harrington
18. Lucas
19. Culpepper
20. Thigpen
21. Rosenfels
22. Lemon
23. Green
24. Kosar
25. Erikson
26. Norton
27. Mackey
28. Stofa
29. Mira
30. Wilson
31. Wood

So, to answer the OP the best since Marino would be Fiedler, then Pennington...then Moore.



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Re: QBs since Marino
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: May 04, 2012 04:18PM

I'm surprised you put Henne over Frerotte. Really.

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Re: QBs since Marino
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: May 04, 2012 04:52PM

Damn ken, after those first two, that's a really sad list.

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Re: QBs since Marino
Posted by: slipstream ()
Date: May 04, 2012 06:11PM

where's Cade McNown on the list?

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Re: QBs since Marino
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: May 04, 2012 08:01PM

jim drukenmiller?
jim karsatos?
kerwin bell?

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Re: QBs since Marino
Posted by: DarthHoodie ()
Date: May 05, 2012 04:18PM

Where is Pat White? drinking smiley

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Re: QBs since Marino
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: May 05, 2012 05:25PM

This was all of the QB's that actually started at least one game for the phins.

Druckenmiller never started a game.

Mcnown never played while has was with the Phins.

Karsatos compliled zero stats in the NFL.

Bell is not listed as ever playing with the Phins...according to NFL.com

White also never started...in fact he only threw 5 passes for zero completions in his career.



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