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What reciever?
Date: March 14, 2012 02:23PM

Seriously there is ZERO help on the waiver wire.

Hartline really going to be our number one?? Pruitt maybe? Wallace?

This is stupid move by Ireland to trade Marshall without any possibility to pick up wow........

Suck for Barkley in effect.

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Re: What reciever?
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: March 14, 2012 02:26PM

Again,

Philbin's offense is not designed for true #1 WR's.

He will draft WR's in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th rounds that fit his mold and offensive style.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

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Re: What reciever?
Date: March 14, 2012 02:27PM

Well its official we will suck this year unless we get Manning.

You heard it here first.

Blackmon in a trade up only thing that I can see happening. Which I wouldnt mind if he is that good.

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Re: What reciever?
Posted by: dolfanmark ()
Date: March 14, 2012 02:38PM

The draft is very deep at WR. And people really need to get used to a new way of viewing the offense. For the last 4 years, we have often gone to max protect, and we often run patterns with just 2 guys in the routes, and sometimes just 1! The WCO is 5 guys blocking, and 5 guys into the pattern. It is about spreading the ball around and using all of your weapons. It is about spreading the defense horizontally, not vertically. You create space and seams for quick receivers to explode through. I almost hate to say this. But, if he could get his hands to an acceptable level, Marlon Moore is actually a great fit as a WCO WR.

You will see a much more balanced distribution of receptions. And don't forget how good Hartline was in 2010 when Marshall was injured.

I am still holding out hope for Mario Manningham to be added. I think he'd complement Bess, Hartline, and Gates pretty well.

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Re: What reciever?
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: March 14, 2012 02:41PM

Its hilarious that people think just because we dont have a true #1 WR, we are going to suck.


Now, if we dont get a good QB. We will suck.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

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Re: What reciever?
Posted by: dolfanmark ()
Date: March 14, 2012 02:47PM

Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> Its hilarious that people think just because we
> dont have a true #1 WR, we are going to suck.
>

Our offense was 15th in the league in 2009, before we got Marshall. We added a "#1 WR", and we dropped to 30th in 2010 and 21st in 2011. That "#1 WR" sure didn't help us.

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Re: What reciever?
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: March 14, 2012 02:53PM

Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> Its hilarious that people think just because we
> dont have a true #1 WR, we are going to suck.
>
>
> Now, if we dont get a good QB. We will suck.

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I hope trading away Marshall won't come back and bite Miami in the ass.

However, I'm confident the Miami brass has something in mind to replace him; they aren't going to just trade away an elite receiver and have no plan in place.

As far as QB -- I am not really that concerned. The big gun(s) (Manning/Luck) may not come to Miami. Luck for sure, of course. Manning? Despite Miami being the perfect fit for him, if he decides to go elsewhere, so be it. We haven't had an elite QB since Marino retired, so what is one more year?

Matt Moore played well last year, and I think he can hold the fort until we finally do get that number 1 guy.

Many on this board are not giving Tannehill a chance in hell, but, IMO, I think he is going to surprise some people. Depending on what team finally drafts him, I think he will have the bigger year for rookie QBs this year. Remember tho, I said depending on what team drafts him.

I've seen mock drafts that have Tannehill being picked out of the top 10, where many of the ESPN and NFLN mock drafts have him going in the top 10.

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Re: What reciever?
Posted by: dolfanmark ()
Date: March 14, 2012 03:00PM

Early Doucet could certainly be a contributor for us.

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Re: What reciever?
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: March 14, 2012 03:19PM

What's amazing to me, is that D-mark can give an in depth explanation of the WR position in our new WCO, and how Marshal didn't fit it, and the next post will say "yeah but we're gonna suck without Marshall"

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Re: What reciever?
Date: March 15, 2012 03:08AM

Ok look we dont have that big body physical WR anymore.

No dominate Red Zone threat.

Just saying.

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Re: What reciever?
Posted by: dolfanmark ()
Date: March 15, 2012 03:47AM

GodAlmightyDolphinsRule Wrote:
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> Ok look we dont have that big body physical WR
> anymore.
>
> No dominate Red Zone threat.
>
> Just saying.


That's not anything new. We have needed one for awhile. Given his awful hands in the redzone, Marshall was nothing more than a decoy there. 7 dropped TD passes in 2011, with 6 of those coming in the redzone. Hardly dominant.

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Re: What reciever?
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: March 15, 2012 03:49AM

GodAlmightyDolphinsRule Wrote:
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>
> This is stupid move by Ireland to trade Marshall
> without any possibility to pick up wow........

Agreed....I mean...We got tooooo 3rd round picks for him and he was a pest.....OHHHH and we got zach thomas in the 5th or 6th round was it???

Also tom brady was a 6th round pick i tink....

so i agree we will definetely not get anybody good in the third round because we are the dolphins.

Finnally i agree with everything.

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Re: What reciever?
Date: March 15, 2012 04:03AM

Seriously deep draft. Relax people........

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Re: What reciever?
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: March 15, 2012 04:40AM

captkoi Wrote:
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> However, I'm confident the Miami brass has
> something in mind to replace him; they aren't
> going to just trade away an elite receiver and
> have no plan in place.
>

Really? you must not be paying attention. what was the last move the dolphins made that gave you such confidence? the last move that seemed part of a "master plan" and not just making it up as they go?

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Re: What reciever?
Date: March 15, 2012 04:44AM

Umm......I like the last one made with Philbin to dump marshall.

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Re: What reciever?
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: March 15, 2012 06:22AM

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> Umm......I like the last one made with Philbin to
> dump marshall.


thumbs up

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Re: What reciever?
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: March 15, 2012 06:28AM

ok but what is the "master plan" at WR to replace him?

and I am not buying this--there is no #1 WR in philbin's offense. What about gregg jennings? jennings, nelson, and driver are better than any of the WRs we have less (OK maybe not driver at this point, but still). you need good WRs in that offense.

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Re: What reciever?
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: March 15, 2012 06:36AM

I hope the Plan is to draft those guys over a 2 or 3 year period just like GB did with Jennings, Nelson, Jones, and the others.

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Re: What reciever?
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: March 15, 2012 06:39AM

The Plan is to draft Blackmon this year and Barkley next.

Irvin was drafted the year before Aikman and Harrison was drafted the year before Manning.

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Re: What reciever?
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: March 15, 2012 06:43AM

A and O, Blackmon isn't going to last till 8, and I don't see us trading up to get him.
As for Barkley, I really hope the FO's "plan" isn't to be so horrible next year that we'll have the #1 or #2 overall pick which is what will be needed for Barkley. A trade up for him will be just as bad as for RG3 if he plays as expected at USC next year.

where are all you guys who were celebrating those meaningless wins over crap teams last year??

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Re: What reciever?
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: March 15, 2012 06:47AM

Berk, you know I am not one of the guys who cheered those wins.

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Re: What reciever?
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: March 15, 2012 07:35AM

I know A and O, it's just that those folks are very quiet. We'd probably have RG# now if we ended up at #6 or higher. Now we are 8 in a 5 player draft

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Re: What reciever?
Posted by: Kfresh01 ()
Date: March 15, 2012 07:46AM

Mark Clayton is out there, he is an incredible talent. Stephen Hill is going to be interesting. We can get him in later rounds.

It would be cool to sign Terrell Owens but I know most of you wont agree with that and will laugh because no one else wants him but he is an elite talent still

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Re: What reciever?
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: March 15, 2012 03:54PM

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> captkoi Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > However, I'm confident the Miami brass has
> > something in mind to replace him; they aren't
> > going to just trade away an elite receiver and
> > have no plan in place.
> >
>
> Really? you must not be paying attention. what was
> the last move the dolphins made that gave you such
> confidence? the last move that seemed part of a
> "master plan" and not just making it up as they
> go?

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I am paying attention, but as none of us on this board are sitting in the rooms with Ireland, et al, it is difficult for us to know what is going on. I'm just saying that the brass has to have something in mind; some sort of plan.

A lot of what has been said on this board makes sense, as to why Miami traded Marshall.

Ireland doesn't have Parcells looking over his shoulder anymore, and I think Ireland is more of a gambler than was Parcells. I'm willing to sit back and see what he has up his sleeves.

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Re: What reciever?
Posted by: chrisnnavarre ()
Date: March 15, 2012 03:58PM

Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> Its hilarious that people think just because we
> dont have a true #1 WR, we are going to suck.
>
>
> Now, if we dont get a good QB. We will suck.


Amen....

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Re: What reciever?
Posted by: chrisnnavarre ()
Date: March 15, 2012 04:00PM

Kfresh01 Wrote:
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> Mark Clayton is out there, he is an incredible
> talent. Stephen Hill is going to be interesting.
> We can get him in later rounds.
>
> It would be cool to sign Terrell Owens but I know
> most of you wont agree with that and will laugh
> because no one else wants him but he is an elite
> talent still


I have a better idea, why don't we trade away those two thirds along with our first this year to Chicago so we can get Marshall back and destroy our franchise for eternity. Same thing as bringing in TO.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/15/2012 04:07PM by chrisnnavarre.

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Re: What reciever?
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: March 15, 2012 04:12PM

When was the last time R Moss, T Owens, C Ochocinco, S Smith or B Marshall won a Superbowl??..........oh that's right, never! Good riddance to the diva-recieva era!

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