why not? he's an (allegedly) offensive minding guy, has a past relationship with nolan so maybe we could keep him, he's won a SB in the past (which seems to trump all, see cowher and gruden), seems like he wants to coach again (unlike those other 2)
I never understood why his name has not been tossed around these past few years, in fact I never even heard him mentioned as being intervewed in the past
does everyone in the league hate him or something?
at this point I'd be happy with gruden (longshot) or billick---we ain't getting anyone better. This job is not a top one any longer. Keeping nolan is important I think and this is the only coach where i could see that happening

I would rather have a young and up coming guy if we cant get Cowher, Fisher, or Gruden.

I dont care for Billick.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

I'd rather have Fisher than Billick, He's been far too conservative in the past.

fisher is OK but he's a defensive minded guy. I think we need an offensive minding guy. I am also bothered by the fact that most of fishers seasons he did not have a winning record.

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> fisher is OK but he's a defensive minded guy. I
> think we need an offensive minding guy. I am also
> bothered by the fact that most of fishers seasons
> he did not have a winning record.

Wanny was a defensive-minded coach, which is why we'd lose games 9-6. Check the scores for the Titans' games in 2008. 47, 34, 31 (3 times), 30, 28. Those are what the Titans scored in games that year. Fisher MAY have been a defensive-minded coach at one time, but, like Shula, he evolved.

maybe after wanny I am just wary of coaches with moustaches!

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> maybe after wanny I am just wary of coaches with
> moustaches!

Ahh, could be. I, myself, always thought Wanny and Cowher looked like they were separated at birth!

Poor phins, its like showing up late to a dance and the only gals left to dance with are the heffer(andy reid), the spaced out chick(Gruden), the one with boogers all over her sleeve (fisher), the lumpy one that nobody wants (mangini), and the unibrowed half man- half woman (billick).

I'll take the heffer or spaced out chick. is the spaced out chick thin?

not "sexy" enough for ross

But he's agressive, bright, creative, and innovative. I wouldn't min him if we can't get Gruden as Philbin is my secod choice of those out there.



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Ken,

You keep naming guys that aren't even in control of their own offense.

You named Carmichael- everybody knows Sean Peyton runs that offense.


Now, you named this guy--and again, everybody knows that McCarthy runs that offense, too.


Come on, Ken. Atleast pick a guy that is actually in control of something.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

I overheard a conversation at work and someone else had mention Brian Billick. Said he met him at a siminar and he was one of the brightest people he has ever met.

I cast my vote for Brian Billick.

The Man won with Trent Dilfer....TRENT DILFER! He's got my stamp if he can remain motivated and not desert us in 3 yrs like the rest.

but he also drafted kyle boller in the first round, which makes me doubt his QB accumen

He also called time out toward the end of the game when Baltimore was playing NE during NE's undefeated season. If he hadn't called time out, Baltimore would have won. That lone decision blew the game for Baltimore. I hate to think we'd be getting another bad game manager.

and we got our lone victory in 2007 b/c he kicked a FG on 4th and goal from the 1 to send the game into OT instead of going for the win.
some questionable calls for sure----but I don't think we are going to get much better than him to coach this trainwreck

It doesn't matter who you bring in. Ireland is still gonna control the personnel.

I do not think Billick is what the dolphins need now. He does not seem to be enough of a controling person to me.

We need someone that has a (modern) vision and the drive to get it done.

IMHO.

Doug-THE-Dolfan Wrote:
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> I do not think Billick is what the dolphins need
> now. He does not seem to be enough of a controling
> person to me.
>
I'm of the opposite opinion. Controlling guys are usually system guys, and we've gotten nowhere with them (JJ, Parcells).

Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> Ken,
>
> You keep naming guys that aren't even in control
> of their own offense.
>
> You named Carmichael- everybody knows Sean Peyton
> runs that offense.
>
>
> Now, you named this guy--and again, everybody
> knows that McCarthy runs that offense, too.
>
>
> Come on, Ken. Atleast pick a guy that is actually
> in control of something.


RE: Prove your claims A&O...Both Pilbin and Carmichael are employed as offensive coorinators. If they aren't doing the job then what are they doing? You don't pay some one to be a coordinator and then just have them stand there doing nothing. That's like paying the CEO of General Motors to nothing but make coffee in a small town dealership.

Uh Ken, its a widely known fact that McCarthy and Sean Payton both call the plays.

Once again, prove it. No team would pay a coach a boat load of money to do a job, then allow another highly paid person to actually do it instead.

Point taken Berk and A&O:

However, all this really proves though is that Payton is an autocratic asshat, and a stupid one at that. You don't pay someone to do a job and then go out of your way to do it for them.

If Payton has to do the job then he absolutely does not need Carmichael on the staff. Majorly inneffective use of staffing and resources...and bad management practices too. No excuse for a failure to delegate tasks, and expect accountability for the results.

I realize that the HC is responsible for everything. But, if the guy you have employed to do a job isn't capable enough in your opinion to do that job, to the point that you have to do it yourself...that person should be fired and replaced.

montequi Wrote:
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> He also called time out toward the end of the game
> when Baltimore was playing NE during NE's
> undefeated season. If he hadn't called time out,
> Baltimore would have won. That lone decision blew
> the game for Baltimore. I hate to think we'd be
> getting another bad game manager.

That was Rex Ryan who called timeout. The D-Coordinator for the Ravens at the time.