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Could this cause Tannehill to drop?
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: April 21, 2012 10:09AM


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Re: Could this cause Tannehill to drop?
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: April 21, 2012 10:11AM

I seriously doubt it.

After 4 years you know enough about a QB to know if he's the goods. IF he's the goods you'll have no issues paying him top dollar.

If he isn't you'll likely have drafted his replacement the year before.

This really is a non-factor.

People are running out of good bullshit to write. The draft can't get here fast enough.

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Re: Could this cause Tannehill to drop?
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: April 21, 2012 10:19AM

yeah no chance that makes any difference. after 4 years he's either worth the money or probably not a starting qb in the league

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Re: Could this cause Tannehill to drop?
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 21, 2012 11:12AM


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Re: Could this cause Tannehill to drop?
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: April 21, 2012 11:12AM

It probably would have gotten Alex Smith cut before success in 49ers land, he didnt really flourish until last year, his what fifth or sixth year? Granted that is the exception more then the rule... If Tannehill sits 2 years, and then plays 2... Aaron ROdgers sat 4 years right?
It is interesting rule, but as Truth and Berk, said, it shouldnt have any effect on whether Tannehill goes in top ten... If he is your guy, he is your guy... I doubt we would like him and want him, and think he is a legit prospect, and hten say, wait, lets get out of the top ten picks, so we dont have to take the higher avg, on the option year 5.... Tannehills has so much press around him it is crazy, It is almost like he is the number 1 pick, since Luck and RG3 are already locked into spots... Tannehill is the hype of this draft, for good or bad....

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Re: Could this cause Tannehill to drop?
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: April 21, 2012 11:23AM

I dont think the new CBA would affect if we drafted Tannehill or not, but I do think it could affect us re-signing J. Long. Being a #1 overall pick, he's pretty pricy by todays standards, he's not gonna get any cheaper, (I think we just saw the same thing happen to Mario Williams in Houston),it would not surprise me if he wasn't on this team in a year or two.

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Re: Could this cause Tannehill to drop?
Posted by: 808phan ()
Date: April 21, 2012 11:44AM

For a QB who isn't considered to be starting material right away he sure gets a lot of media attention & I'm getting really tired of it. I surely don't want to see a desperate attempt to draft him. If he's there at #8 and Ireland drafts him then so be it, & if Ireland passes on him at #8 then so be it as well.

I personally believe that a top ten pick QB should already have the smarts and skill level to be an immediate starter. In Tannehill's case his level of readiness as an immediate starting NFL QB is still debatable/questionable.

I'm really having a hard time accepting the hype of a QB whose college coach just got fired, and the thought of them being reunited together at the NFL level scares me a bit. IMO drafting a QB with our 1st round pick if it's in the top ten just for the sake of doing so is stupid if the said QB really isn't worth it.

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Re: Could this cause Tannehill to drop?
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: April 21, 2012 12:43PM

dolphaholic Wrote:
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> I dont think the new CBA would affect if we
> drafted Tannehill or not, but I do think it could
> affect us re-signing J. Long. Being a #1 overall
> pick, he's pretty pricy by todays standards, he's
> not gonna get any cheaper, (I think we just saw
> the same thing happen to Mario Williams in
> Houston),it would not surprise me if he wasn't on
> this team in a year or two.


You are right. It's why I'd consider trading him and wake and wouldn't be shocked to hear they were dealt before, during or after the draft.

Sooner or later as a gm there is a line you aren't willing to cross in a negotiation. Figure out what that is, make your best "take it or we are trading you" offer. Then let the player decide what happens next.

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Re: Could this cause Tannehill to drop?
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: April 21, 2012 02:50PM

No quarterback has ever been ready to start in the NFL day one. They all need time to develop. How much time...is the question. Every player ever drafted was drafted for their potential some point in the future. For some that future is realized sooner, for others later. THAT is the gamble. Tannehill is worth the pick required to draft him, on potential alone. He has everything you look for in a prospect, skill wise and athletically he's as good or better than the vast majority, or QB's, past or future.

I hope we take him...but that's not my decision. Thursday will be interesting to be sure.

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Re: Could this cause Tannehill to drop?
Date: April 21, 2012 05:20PM

What a bunch of Dookie. They really are running out of angles to write about.

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Re: Could this cause Tannehill to drop?
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: April 21, 2012 07:07PM

If this affects Tannehill, it could affect ANY player (QB or not) drafted in the top 10. confused smiley

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Re: Could this cause Tannehill to drop?
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: April 22, 2012 10:41AM

808phan Wrote:
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> For a QB who isn't considered to be starting
> material right away he sure gets a lot of media
> attention & I'm getting really tired of it. I
> surely don't want to see a desperate attempt to
> draft him. If he's there at #8 and Ireland drafts
> him then so be it, & if Ireland passes on him at
> #8 then so be it as well.
>
> I personally believe that a top ten pick QB should
> already have the smarts and skill level to be an
> immediate starter. In Tannehill's case his level
> of readiness as an immediate starting NFL QB is
> still debatable/questionable.
>
> I'm really having a hard time accepting the hype
> of a QB whose college coach just got fired, and
> the thought of them being reunited together at the
> NFL level scares me a bit. IMO drafting a QB with
> our 1st round pick if it's in the top ten just for
> the sake of doing so is stupid if the said QB
> really isn't worth it.

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In a perfect world, yes, I agree that if a QB is drafted in the top 10 he should be ready to play immediately; but this isn't a perfect world.

If QBs weren't at such a high premium, then you would see not only Tanney, but a few of last year's QBs drafted a lot lower than where they were, i.e., Ponder, Locker, etc. But, that's not the way it works.

I highly doubt Miami, let alone any NFL team, would draft a QB just for the sake of doing it, if they didn't think he had the goods. All the "experts" think Tanney has the goods, he will just need a year of "seasoning." After all, he only played 16 games in college at QB.

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Re: Could this cause Tannehill to drop?
Posted by: dolfanmark ()
Date: April 23, 2012 03:51PM

In his final prospect rankings, Gil Brandt ranked Tannehill as the 4th best prospect in the draft.

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Re: Could this cause Tannehill to drop?
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 23, 2012 04:08PM

Well, mark, I hope Cleveland takes him up on that assessment and drafts Tannehill.

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Re: Could this cause Tannehill to drop?
Posted by: dolfanmark ()
Date: April 24, 2012 02:42AM


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Re: Could this cause Tannehill to drop?
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: April 24, 2012 04:59AM

dolfanmark Wrote:
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> In his final prospect rankings, Gil Brandt ranked
> Tannehill as the 4th best prospect in the draft.


And Greg Cossel has Q Coples as a 2nd rnd pick........not sure I really agree with either one of those assesments, and I respect the crap out of Cossel. Wish I could do the whole fold my arms and nod my head "I Dream of Jeanie" thing (minus the bikini of course) and fast forward to Thursday night.

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Re: Could this cause Tannehill to drop?
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: April 24, 2012 05:05AM

montequi Wrote:
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> If this affects Tannehill, it could affect ANY
> player (QB or not) drafted in the top 10. confused smiley


that's not really true. the rule is that the player gets the average of the top salary's at his position. QBs make much more than other players (imagine averaging Brady, Manning, Vick, etc etc) so it's a much bigger cost commitment to draft a QB in the top 10, in the later years of the deal.

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Re: Could this cause Tannehill to drop?
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 24, 2012 08:45AM


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Re: Could this cause Tannehill to drop?
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: April 24, 2012 10:47AM

What can drop tannehill.

Hes had too much weedon for lunch.

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