ChyrenB Wrote:
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> I have to handle your posts one at a time.
> captkoi Wrote:
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> > But they won't be available
>
> Not all but most likely one because we know that
> Luck and RGIII take up 2 of the first 7 spots and
> that leaves five.
> >
> > Seriously tho, Blackmon is (probably) not gonna
> be
> > there at 8, and if he is, Ireland is really
> gonna
> > have to weigh his options. However, I just
> read
> > this AM that Ireland already has his board set
> and
> > is ready to draft right now. So, I am sure he
> > believes (although I haven't talked to him
> > personally about the draft) that he feels
> Blackmon
> > will be gone by Miami's pick.
>
> I agree but he as well as any of the others COULD
> be. It's a possibility. A likelihood? But at
> least a possibility.
>
>
> >
> > Floyd and Coples both have question marks. In
> > fact, the draft/personnel gurus have Coples
> > falling. Floyd has/had off the field issues.
>
> Well, now we are arguing relative merits. I'd
> take them at their positions as projected
> successes WAY BEFORE betting on Tannehill.
>
>
> > Kalil will no doubt be gone;
>
> Well now You have Floyd, Coples, Kahil, Blackmon
> and Reiff which you discuss below and INgram.
>
> I'd say the math is that 6 plus 2 equals 8 and we
> can get one of them.
>
>
> >Reiff is an interior
> > lineman.
>
>
> And we STILL need help on the interior line. As I
> said in many posts, a cup with a hole in it is no
> better than no cup at all.
>
> >
> > That's what I have been saying; pick 8 is a
> good
> > position, but not one that is going to get that
> > difference maker, no matter the position.
> Miami
> > needs that impact guy, not an "ugly."
>
> We need BOTH!!!!!!!!!!
>
> That's where your argument falls apart. We are
> not the 1982 Dolphins, just needing a replacement
> for Woodstrock.

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Yes,we do need help on the interior, but 8 is too high to draft that position. An impact player must be drafted there. If Miami trades down, then if one of those top interior guys is there, then I could see Miami drafting one of them.

I will be absolutely disgusted if we get Osweiler.

He is the 2012 version of Dan McGuire.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> I will be absolutely disgusted if we get
> Osweiler.
>
> He is the 2012 version of Dan McGuire.


I'll be disgusted if we draft any QB not named Wheedon in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th round.

Taking a QB there is virtually a wasted pick.

At least Wheedon has elite tools and would be a 1st round pick if he weren't 28.

Anyone else is a project. I can get project QB's in the 5-7th rounds.

I agree. I am totally cool with Wheedon, although I wonder how he fits our system.

Even with that being said, I'm still fine with Wheedon.

But not Dan McGuire...ahem, I mean Brock Osweiler.

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THE Truth Wrote:
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>
> I'll be disgusted if we draft any QB not named
> Wheedon in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th round.
>
> Taking a QB there is virtually a wasted pick.
>
> At least Wheedon has elite tools and would be a
> 1st round pick if he weren't 28.
>
> Anyone else is a project. I can get project QB's
> in the 5-7th rounds.

Not trolling but (of course I agree with the sentiments as to Weeden) but again, the funny thing, I was also thinking in November and December of 2011 that we "get project QB's in the 5-7th rounds."

I was hoping we could, SATISFYING THAT QUALIFICATION, draft a guy that intrigued me as a late round prospect.










His name was Ryan Tannehill.

I am hoping our late round project QB is Russell Wilson.

That's another idea, 1423. One that emdiggy agrees with. Not bad.

IMO Wheedon is significantly more NFL ready than Trannyhill who might get stuck in neutral for several seasons. Wheedon has the more impressive arm, his release is faster, he reads defenses quicker, superior accuracy, and he’s got a two syllable last name (a big key in this draft)!

Ideally, IMO, we either trade down and land Wheedon later in R1, or get an immediate impact player @8 (i.e., a Lady killer like Ingram) and move back into late R1 or a few spots up in R2 and get Wheedon (contingent on how the board plays out and other teams dealing with QB needs).

Of course the ideal situation would be trade down AND still get Wheedon in R2 at #8 (or whatever our spot is).

Whatever, I still see our #1 target being a disruptor raptor Lady killer R1 followed by WR and OL – with the best play available @QB. Depth at OL and WR play well for us.

In my assessment of the team as is, in order to make the biggest improvement from last year we need to knock the opposing QB down and protect ours. That will go a long way to improving the bottom line. If we can do that AND add Wheedon along with WR talent the rest would be gravy.

On the other hand drafting Trannyhill sucks a lot of oxygen out of our draft on a kid that’s definitely an NFL project. Yea, he could be great. But then again… No sure thing. And burning that much draft capital on the kid is a bit too much speculation for me. UNLESS the dudes making the call (Philbin, Ireland, etc.) are like jumping up and down with anticipation of having this kid in the program.

The smarter money either picks the best IMMEDIATE IMPACT PLAYER @8 (most likely DE/OLB] or we parlay #8 into additional draft capital and target Wheedon (or maybe they have insight elsewhere). But this Wheedon kid looks like a pro IMO.

BNF.



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