with a prediction.

If

a) the Dolphins DON'T DRAFT TANNEHILL AT 8.

and

b) if the Dolphins Don't Draft Tannehill with their next pick (whatever that pick may be, it may be no. 9 in the second round as is now or it may be that we have picked at no. 8 but ALSO sold our other picks to get a late 1st round pick)

THEN

Weeden will be drafted prior to Tannehill.

how much $$ would you like to bet on that?

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The beatings will continue until morale improves.

I gather you disagree?

Let's make it a gentleman's bet for pride only.

I don't want to violate any federal internet laws.

But if we are smart enough NOT to take him with our first or second pick, you will be my better if he goes BEFORE Weeden.

However, if Sherman is seen as obviously passing on Tannehill, your position in the would be bet might be in trouble.

His stock rose like a meteor this year and, to my mind, it will fall just as greatly.

If the Phins don't reach for Tannehill he could drop. I don't believe the Chiefs will use their #1 on a QB, Cleveland at 22 is a possibility, but is he better than McCoy?

Swapping with Cowboys at 14 could happen

jlyell13 Wrote:
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> Swapping with Cowboys at 14 could happen

Sure, why not? It seems we've been in bed with Dallas ever since the Tuna came here. We might as well swap picks and have all the best players taken just before ours. I could see Ireland doing that.

jlyell13 Wrote:
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> If the Phins don't reach for Tannehill he could
> drop. I don't believe the Chiefs will use their #1
> on a QB, Cleveland at 22 is a possibility, but is
> he better than McCoy?
>
> Swapping with Cowboys at 14 could happen


THIS^^ I said the same over a month ago. If Tanehill is not taken by the browns we are free and clear for 6-7 more spots. I know the Bills looked at him, but they are just mind Fing us. They don't want him , at least not in the first round.

Tannehill won't make it past KC.

The fat coach doesn't like Cassell.

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jlyell13 Wrote:
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> If the Phins don't reach for Tannehill he could
> drop. I don't believe the Chiefs will use their #1
> on a QB, Cleveland at 22 is a possibility, but is
> he better than McCoy?
>
> Swapping with Cowboys at 14 could happen


Anything could happen.

Who is the player Dallas is moving up for that they are willing to cough up a 2nd round pick for?

Tannehill or Weeden whichever scrub goes first, both are still going to stink in the NFL.

whats the difference.

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> Tannehill or Weeden whichever scrub goes first,
> both are still going to stink in the NFL.
>
> whats the difference.

Difference? Tannehill's younger, so he'll hang around longer until teams give up on him.

TRANSLATION: Tannehill will stink for longer in the NFL than Weeden. In fact, we're more likely to get a draft pick, be-it a low-rounder, when we trade him away



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/16/2012 10:24AM by montequi.

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> Tannehill or Weeden whichever scrub goes first,
> both are still going to stink in the NFL.
>
> whats the difference.


You've come precisely to the place I've led you, my lad!

Now take the next step.

That step is to ask yourself if this is true, why are we taking Tannehill at no. 8?

montequi Wrote:
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> samsam3738 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Tannehill or Weeden whichever scrub goes first,
> > both are still going to stink in the NFL.
> >
> > whats the difference.
>
> Difference? Tannehill's younger, so he'll hang
> around longer until teams give up on him.
>
> TRANSLATION: Tannehill will stink for longer in
> the NFL than Weeden. In fact, we're more likely
> to get a draft pick, be-it a low-rounder, when we
> trade him away

So in other words and like what i meant there is no difference. They are both going to stink. It doesnt matter who stinks longer.

As long as they dont stink with the phins i could care less who stinks longer.

ChyrenB Wrote:
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>
> That step is to ask yourself if this is true, why
> are we taking Tannehill at no. 8?


Because our scouts and management are lost. They have stunk as a team for the last 25 years. they will reach like always.

We picked Eddie Moore LB instead of ?????????????


I dont even want to remember.

LOL. LOL. LOL times one thousand.

I was unclear. My question should have started... "Why would a rational person (which excludes THE Truth) take Tannehill at 8?"

dolphaholic Wrote:
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> ChyrenB Wrote:
> You've come precisely to the place I've led
> you,
> > my lad!>
> > Now take the next step.
> >
> > That step is to ask yourself if this is true,
> why
> > are we taking Tannehill at no. 8?
>
>
> Thats funny Chyren, I can show you about 50 of
> your posts advocating taking Weedon late in the
> 1st or early 2nd, why waste the pick if he's gonna
> suck???????

To keep us from SUCKING WORSE AND passing on Melvin INgram or Quentin Coples or Riley Reiff BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO WANT TO MAKE AN EVEN BIGGER MISTAKE OF GOING FOR TANNEHILL AT 8, when we could have one of those guys and still satisfy YOUR quarterback FRENZY in getting Weeden in the second round or late first.

LOL.

Man we are so desperate for a QB........!!!!! I remember when i wanted the phins to draft brady quinn so am not going to say anything else. haha

Every year is the same thing, there are good prospects when we pick but we go with the dam reach.

I wish i can put a few fans to get the dam picks for the last 15 years and maybe wed have a great team right now..


I know these players get interviewed etc they go with the best character yipeee...

Get me a dam football player man.

Another randy moss dude.....Get him into counceling or something. Put a dam bodyguard on his butt and watch his every move.

you mean to tell me you spend millions and millions on a player but you cant pay for some counceling or a dam bodyguard...


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BTW when i said i wanted that ex thug receiver from denver out of miami...................I was sick of his on field tantrums and the 15 yards penalties when he didnt get his way.....that was the main reason i wanted him out of miami.

Totally agree with you SamSam. There is a big difference between an off the field problem like Randy Moss and a team problem like that guy now in Chicago.

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> dolphaholic Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ChyrenB Wrote:
> > You've come precisely to the place I've led
> > you,
> > > my lad!>
> > > Now take the next step.
> > >
> > > That step is to ask yourself if this is true,
> > why
> > > are we taking Tannehill at no. 8?
> >
> >
> > Thats funny Chyren, I can show you about 50 of
> > your posts advocating taking Weedon late in the
> > 1st or early 2nd, why waste the pick if he's
> gonna
> > suck???????
>
> To keep us from SUCKING WORSE AND passing on
> Melvin INgram or Quentin Coples or Riley Reiff
> BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO WANT TO MAKE AN
> EVEN BIGGER MISTAKE OF GOING FOR TANNEHILL AT 8,
> when we could have one of those guys and still
> satisfy YOUR quarterback FRENZY in getting Weeden
> in the second round or late first.


So wasting a 2nd rnd (or late 1st) on a QB you admit will suck is gonna keep us from sucking more? Interesting strategy

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> Tannehill or Weeden whichever scrub goes first,
> both are still going to stink in the NFL.
>
> whats the difference.

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Sam, Why do you think they will both "stink"?

Yeah you got me Chyren, you took a prospect at #8 with a 50/50 chance of being something special AND wasted our 2nd rnd pick on someone that you admit will suck........I can hardly sit down.

I don't even need to look up any stats to back my position up, ALL first rnd picks are 50/50 OR LESS to be something special, even Luck and RG3. For you to argue otherwise just makes you look really crazy or stupid........or dare I say both?

This argument isn't about Tannehill turning into Marino, I've never even seen the guy throw a single pass, this is about you saying that whoever else we take @ #8 is a sure fire thing to being "something special" (my words not yours)

Yeah, I have no idea what you mean by "something special" as YOU point out (my words not yours).

If you mean that I am expecting these Defensive linemen to go down in history like Mean Joe Green or that Riley Reiff will become a Hall of Fame O lineman, no, I'm not saying that. If you are saying I am thinking that they will be that kind of "something special" no.

But I'll tell you just what I'd be willing to bet. I'd be willing to bet that they would be starters for us and will hold down those positions and upgrade either defensive or offensive line immediately.

Now, as for Tannehill, right now this is the situation.

While most experts are willing to bet that Luck AND RGIII will both become starters and have bright futures in the NFL.

The question is whether Tannehill will or will not BE A BUST.

That's the question about him.


With those other two guys, the question is will they become Elway or Marino or will they just be Peyton Mannings.


With Tannehill the question is whether the guy will even make in the NFL at Quarterback or whether he will have to END UP MOVING BACK TO WIDE RECEIVER.

With those kind of dynamics, it's just SILLY to draft Tannehill at 8.

But that's not true of Ingram, Coples or Reiff.

Again,

Melvin Ingram started only 14 games. Thats it. 1 season.

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