1) Andrew Luck
2) RG3
3) Brandon Weeden
4) Kirk Cousins
5) Nick Foles
6) Brock Osweiler
7) Case Keenum
8) BJ Coleman
9) RUssell Wilson
10)Chandler Harnish
11)Kellen Moore
12)Darron THomas

They are all draft eligible and had a higher completion percentage last season then Ryan Tannehills 61.6 completion percentage. In fact there is only one QB in the entire eligibilty of the draft who had a worse completion percentage then Tannehill last year, and that is Ryan Lindley... But I am guessing he will be gone by 15 most likely, right guys?

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/09/2012 03:47PM by Crowder52.

How many of them played in an NFL passing game? And how many of them had 64 passes dropped by their receivers?

Remember, the spread offenses so popular in college are designed to inflate completion percentages.

dude you are on the kool aide, he was not accurate with the ball, that is why he had so many drops and a bad completion percentage as well,

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Crowder52 Wrote:
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> dude you are on the kool aide, he was not accurate
> with the ball, that is why he had so many drops
> and a bad completion percentage as well,


That is laughable.

Wow. Just wow.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

Mark, since we heard so much about him sitting on the bench and being second-string as a QB, what figures do you have on how many drops were suffered by the first string College QBs who played before Tannehill got elevated to the starting job.

I mean, if the fault is all that of the receivers, should not they prove to be EQUAL OPPORTUNITY droppers or muffers? Would not statistics bear that out and you are, after all, our stat man.

Meaning of course, one would expect there to be a similar amount of drops for the 1st String QBs that Tannehill succeeded.

If there are not, however, then there needs to be some explanation why the incomplete passes are due to drops when it comes to Tannehill but are simply "incompletions" when it comes to Tannehill's predecessors.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/09/2012 04:19PM by ChyrenB.

Chyren,

You on board with Crowder's "percentage" talk when it comes to Tannehill?

If so, go take a look at Dan Marino's college completition percentage.


It will shut everybody up on this board.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

No, Aqua, I was just responding to one point.

Boom roasted.

I am glad you guys find constant excuses for the guy and his bad stats or bad record... Sorry I am not willing to make that many excuses for him ... These are all bad signs. I think it is mistake to overlook this stuff. Some think it doesn't matter. That is where we differ. I heard the same drop passes thing about Henne alot. It was the wr fault for not catching more balls.. Without all of those drops Henne would have been a stud as well... I don't want excuses, and I don't want a qb in the top ten that you even have to constantly make excuses for... It doesn't matter either way, we will not draft him that high either way... Whether you all care about these stats or not I am pretty sure Ireland will...

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Crowder52 Wrote:
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> I am glad you guys find constant excuses for the
> guy and his bad stats or bad record... Sorry I am
> not willing to make that many excuses for him ...
> These are all bad signs. I think it is mistake to
> overlook this stuff. Some think it doesn't matter.
> That is where we differ. I heard the same drop
> passes thing about Henne alot. It was the wr fault
> for not catching more balls.. Without all of those
> drops Henne would have been a stud as well... I
> don't want excuses, and I don't want a qb in the
> top ten that you even have to constantly make
> excuses for... It doesn't matter either way, we
> will not draft him that high either way... Whether
> you all care about these stats or not I am pretty
> sure Ireland will...

There are no excuses being made. Based on his skills, athleticism, experience in a pro offense, makeup, and intelligence, he is a top 10 pick. You don't evaluate talent on college statistics. Trying to do so is a futile effort. They are meaningless without context.

SO DOlfanmark you dont think Tannehills accuracy problems have anything to do with his low completion percentage?..I think his accuracy issues force the reciever to adjust to the ball rather then properly placing it, which is why he has what you claim are drops that were the WR faults.

You are probably right, without the reciever blowing it on so many plays, i bet you he would have had a near perfect completion percentage, a heisman and a national championship ring.... What was I thinking to worry about such a stat, as how often the QB, actually has his passes completed for a catch, and the fact he has pretty much the worst stat in the entire draft...

I watch the guy throw alot of passes on film, his passes are all over the place, accuracy is not his strong suit and I think that is why he has low completion percentage, but that is just me.. A good QB normally doesnt have these type of problems, but alot of the bad ones all have this WR, drop to many passes problem...

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You get slapped in the face with facts, and then back peddle as fast as you can.....wow, nice job.

Year in and year out, top 10 picks are spent on QB's with lower completition % than Tannehill.

You spewed out a fact, then thought you knew something, then got busted.


Just stop already. Just stop.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

You wont say anything about why Eli Manning had a 60.8 % in college.

or why Tom Brady completed 62% in college.

or why any of the other all time great didnt even complete 60% in college....

No, you wont say anything.


Just say....I dont like Ryan Tannehill. Just say it.


Wait, wait, wait....dont say it. You dont have too. We already know it.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

Hey, settle down Aqua. Take a chill pill. Is this guy your cousin?

All I commented on was the suggestion that there would not likely be receivers who were thrown to by both Jerrold Johnson and also Tannehill.

Then you go on a tirade about QBs with a lower percentage than Tannehill being drafted.

Where did I say anything about that?

Is it religious heresy to question a claim that the man has been the victim of drops whereas I remember no such slack being cut to Chad Henne when he would throw balls that would bounce off the hands of our receivers.

A&O,
You ignore the fact that he has the worst completion percentage of draftable QB's... I think you need to stop..., he has the smallest hands of any qb in the draft. He has obvious accuracy issues, he has fumble problems, he personally fumbled the ball ten times during his short tenure at QB..I am sure that has nothing to do with the small hands... He also didnt win alot of big games or tight games he was in this year... In the last 6 games of his college career, he threw 9 intereptions, and coincidentally only won 2 of those six games... But everybody wants to make all these excuses for the guy... You need to stop it already with drinking the Tannehill kool aide... The more I watch and look into on him, I am almost positive he will not be successful in the NFL...

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ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Hey, settle down Aqua. Take a chill pill. Is
> this guy your cousin?
>
> All I commented on was the suggestion that there
> would not likely be receivers who were thrown to
> by both Jerrold Johnson and also Tannehill.
>
> Then you go on a tirade about QBs with a lower
> percentage than Tannehill being drafted.
>
> Where did I say anything about that?
>
> Is it religious heresy to question a claim that
> the man has been the victim of drops whereas I
> remember no such slack being cut to Chad Henne
> when he would throw balls that would bounce off
> the hands of our receivers.


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Hey Chyren,

My post wasnt aimed at you.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

LOL...did you really just say he has small hands??

Wow...go ask Zach Thomas what it felt like to be labeled as small.

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Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> LOL...did you really just say he has small
> hands??
>
> Wow...go ask Zach Thomas what it felt like to be
> labeled as small.


WHen you carry the ball on every play, have to grip the ball in one hand alot, and have a bad reputation of fumbling, and you have the smallest hand in the combine of QB's, yes that isnt good for you,

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Maybe he has small toes too.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

Well, Jim Druckenmiller has an 11 1/4 in hand.

Mike Vick has a 8 1/2.




You take the pick.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

IF Mike Vick fumlbed the ball ten times in a year and a half, there would be a problem... But I forget in A&O's world nothing matters but positive hype and exagerration as it relates to a player he likes.. If he dislikes the guy, it all matters? Am I on to something.... Instead of calling him Tannehill, his nick name should be Ryan "Excuses" Tannehill...... There is nothing to see here, just keep buying into my ridiculous hype... I am an athlete, so people forget all abut what I actually did on the field... I run fast and measure well, that is all you need in todays NFL.....at least to get overdrafted

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Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> Well, Jim Druckenmiller has an 11 1/4 in hand.
>
> Mike Vick has a 8 1/2.
>
>
>
>
> You take the pick.


Jim Druckenmiller! Remember that guy? He was supposed to be the shite out of college. Didn't we have him on the rooster for a short time?

Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> You wont say anything about why Eli Manning had a
> 60.8 % in college.
>
> or why Tom Brady completed 62% in college.
>
> or why any of the other all time great didnt even
> complete 60% in college....
>
> No, you wont say anything.
>
>
> Just say....I dont like Ryan Tannehill. Just say
> it.
>
>
> Wait, wait, wait....dont say it. You dont have
> too. We already know it.



Hahahahaha!

RMAO!!!! aahhhhh good old A&O what would this board be without you

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> dolfanmark Wrote:
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> -----
> > Well, considering that Tannehill's drops came
> in
> > 2011, and the only full season you could
> compare
> > him to would be Jerrod Johnson's in 2009, it's
> > safe to assume Johnson was not throwing to the
> > same receivers, isn't it?
>
> RESPONSE: Not a safe assumption. These days,
> being pro football fans, we deal with most guys
> who nowadays only play up to their junior year.
>
> However, most college football players, the
> overwhelming number of them don't get drafted in
> the pros at all. That means that there very well
> could be seniors who played in 2009 as Frosh or
> sophs and played in 2011 as seniors.
>
> But if you can't say then, I was just wondering.
> But thanks for the anecdotal evidence as to the
> other quotes.


Of their 5 leading receivers in 2009, only 2 were still around in 2011. And one of those, Fuller, had major drops issues in 2011.

This whole argument is pointless. In 2010, Tannehill completed 65% of his passes. No one would complain about that. And the fact that it came in a pro style offense is more impressive. The spread offenses used by others teams are designed to inflate completion percentages. So, you take a guy who completed 63% of his passes in college while in a pro style offense, and it's quite good. And it's actually better than many top QBs who have come out in recent years. This is a total non-issue.