If we get nobody?

Not Manning. Not Flynn. Not Winston. Not Robinson. Not Manningham. Not anybody.

Nobody. We get nobody to come to Miami.


What would you guys make of that?

Because honestly, I have an eery feeling that this may be our reality.

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and a WR corp of bess, hartline, gates, and wallace and marlon moore

I say start trading away everybode, ala Indy and go 0-16 or 1-15 and just start anew and fresh.


Im not sure we will be able to get anybody to come here.

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Well,

Atleast we are re-signing Paul Soliai.

Reports are that he is upstairs right now, finalizing the deal to remain in Miami.

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Solai is a waste of $. How does this make us better than last yr?

Berk I'm starting to worry about you...

Have you been abducted or suffered prolonged out-of-body football misery?

Keeping Solai is ANYTHING but a waste of money.

I mean come on dude. The negativity is getting pretty strong...

Lets just ask Mark the figures when it comes to Soliai.

Mark,

Where does Paul rank amongst other NT's in the league?

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Actually,

Its a pretty good deal on our end.

2 year deal with $6 mill garaunteed over those 2 years.

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He got 2X more money in his franchised year, then he will in the total of his 2 year contract.

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it all comes down to $. how much did he sign for? he is a "solid" player but not a playmaker, on a team that has almost none. so did we use up almost all our cap space on a nonplaymaking DL who was on our 6-10 squad last year? If so I can't see how this will be an improvement.
Now if the deal is cap friendly and we can still sign some playmakers (any left?) then I am fine with the move.
So much of our resources as sunk into lineman (in $$ and picks) and it's gotten us no where. That's why I'm not ecstatic with the move. But again what are the terms?

I already said..

2 year deal worth $12 mill, with only $6 mill garuanteed.

Its a great deal for us considering last year we were paying him a 1 year deal worth $12 million gauranteed.

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Soliai gives us a good DT in the 4-3 and a good NT when we play in the 3-4 even if he has to lose some weight. He may be more effective as a pass rusher because of the extra help at tackle.

I think we have zero chance of getting no one.

I think we'd do well to draft two from this group of guys.

1. Michael Floyd
2. Stephen Hill
3. Marvin Jones
4. DeVier Posey
5. AJ Jenkins

It's 2 yrs at 8mm per. That's a lot for a 2 down player but I guess it could've been worse. He prob took a bit less to stay

Only 3 per is guaranteed

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Soliai was one of the top 5 players on our defense. And he is one of the best run defenders in the league. 2 years at $6M per year, with only $6M guaranteed over the 2 years, is a good deal. I had his market value pegged at around $7M per season. So, this is a key piece of the defense that gets kept.

dolfanmark Wrote:
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> Soliai was one of the top 5 players on our
> defense. And he is one of the best run defenders
> in the league. 2 years at $6M per year, with only
> $6M guaranteed over the 2 years, is a good deal. I
> had his market value pegged at around $7M per
> season. So, this is a key piece of the defense
> that gets kept.

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Soliai was the main cog in our run defense last year. As far as where he stands in the league, he was a pro bowler last year.

I was surprised that Miami was able to keep him. Our front 7 is something the coaches won't have to worry about now in FA and the draft.

The only exception may be OLB, where Misi isn't a sure thing.

captkoi Wrote:
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> dolfanmark Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Soliai was one of the top 5 players on our
> > defense. And he is one of the best run
> defenders
> > in the league. 2 years at $6M per year, with
> only
> > $6M guaranteed over the 2 years, is a good deal.
> I
> > had his market value pegged at around $7M per
> > season. So, this is a key piece of the defense
> > that gets kept.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Soliai was the main cog in our run defense last
> year. As far as where he stands in the league, he
> was a pro bowler last year.
>
> I was surprised that Miami was able to keep him.
> Our front 7 is something the coaches won't have to
> worry about now in FA and the draft.
>
> The only exception may be OLB, where Misi isn't a
> sure thing.

If we go to a 4-3, Misi is going to get first crack at MLB. Dansby (Will) and Burnett (Sam) would be the two OLB in that scheme.

dolfanmark Wrote:
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> If we go to a 4-3, Misi is going to get first
> crack at MLB. Dansby (Will) and Burnett (Sam)
> would be the two OLB in that scheme.

That's going to be a complete disaster. A DE/OLB can't just move to MLB like that. It's a very different position.

montequi Wrote:
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> dolfanmark Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If we go to a 4-3, Misi is going to get first
> > crack at MLB. Dansby (Will) and Burnett (Sam)
> > would be the two OLB in that scheme.
>
> That's going to be a complete disaster. A DE/OLB
> can't just move to MLB like that. It's a very
> different position.

Keep in mind, Misi was a 4-3 DT in college, and we moved him to 3-4 OLB. That's quite a change, too. They like Misi's instincts and his motor, and think he could fit inside. Quite honestly, the Fins coaching staff has a much better idea of what Misi is capable of than any of us do. And they think he could move inside.

we keep MATT MOORE & DRAFT like this!!

luck, rg3, kalil,tannehill,claiborne,reiff, ingram...

#8 WR JUSTIN BLACKMON OR MICHAEL FLOYD
#40 TE DWAYNE ALLEN
#74 TE ORSON CHARLES
#75 (BEARS) QB NICK FOLES

Daytona,,,

Now stop being so intelligent!

The dolphins won't take a WR with #8

And 2 tight ends....

I say take Blackmon at #8 and weedon with one of the 3rd rounders we have...

I'd prefer weedon then Foles

DaytonaDolfan13 Wrote:
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> we keep MATT MOORE & DRAFT like this!!
>
> luck, rg3, kalil,tannehill,claiborne,reiff,
> ingram...
>
> #8 WR JUSTIN BLACKMON OR MICHAEL FLOYD
> #40 TE DWAYNE ALLEN
> #74 TE ORSON CHARLES
> #75 (BEARS) QB NICK FOLES



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Blackmon won't make it past the Rams.

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Richard Marshall just signed for 3 years and 6 million garaunteed.

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UNLESS THE RAMS go with a T or TRENT RICHARDSON

Browns will go Trent Richardson.

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