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Why not Weeden in the Second Round?
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: March 12, 2012 12:02PM

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Re: Why not Weeden in the Second Round?
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: March 12, 2012 12:09PM

That's an option IF he lasts that long. I however, think he'll be taken in the lower half of the first round. I'd also rather have Tannehill at #8.

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Re: Why not Weeden in the Second Round?
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: March 12, 2012 12:18PM

he won't last till the 2d

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Re: Why not Weeden in the Second Round?
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: March 12, 2012 12:28PM

Okay, Ken. But at no. 8, we have to decide (or gamble) whether we could get him in the second.

So, does anybody say, (so far) that we should not draft him in the second, even if we could.

I guess I'm trying to find out whether between Tannehill at 8 or Weeden in the second round, who would take Tannehill and why?

Because Frankly, if both Weeden AND Tannehill were available to us with the 9th pick in the second round, I'd clearly take Weeden.

In fact, you guys know how anti-signing Peyton I am. I was only one of 2 people who had Peyton as my third option in my own poll.

But I swear before God, I'd be in favor of signing Peyton in a second, before I would ever even THINK about drafting Tannehill with the 8th pick IN THE FIRST ROUND.

I think that's just crazy. In fact, I'd take Weeden with our number 8 before Tannehill. A wide receiver with one year in COLLEGE as a QB.

Are you guys so quarterback desperate that you would go for that?

Listen, I've been rooting for the Dolphins since September of 1967.

Believe me, there will be a NFL season in 2013 and in many years after that.

You don't have to lose your commonsense just because you want a quarterback now.

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Re: Why not Weeden in the Second Round?
Posted by: dolfanmark ()
Date: March 12, 2012 12:57PM

Gil Brandt ranks Ryan Tannehill as the #7 prospect in the draft. He knows what he's talking about on the subject, so I trust that Tannehill is the legit #3 QB in this draft.

He's 5 years younger than Weeden.

Tannehill played QB in high school, and competed with Jerrod Johnson at QB both his freshman and sophomore years. When he lost those battles, he played WR, and he did it well, catching over 100 balls those 2 years. He took over as the QB midway through his junior season. He started 19 games at QB. For the record, that is 3 more career starts than Matt Flynn has in his college and pro career combined.

Tannehill was 2-0 in career starts against the RG3-led Baylor team, including a 6 TD performance this season.

He's 6'4, 222, and is thought to run around a 4.6. He is a terrific athlete, as is evidenced by his excellent play at WR.

He has spent the last 4 years playing in Mike Sherman's offense.

He's a 4-time academic all American who plans to be an orthopedic surgeon. So, intelligence is not an issue.

I would rather have Tannehill on a 4 year, $12M contract (what Locker got last year) than paying an unproven, less talented Matt Flynn $10M per year.

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Re: Why not Weeden in the Second Round?
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: March 12, 2012 01:52PM

All of those things reasons to take Tannehill but in addition to those we have.

Arm Strength: He posseses the arm strength to make all the throws at the next level, including the “deep out.” and is quite capable of delivering the ball with the requisite velocity to any spot on the field.

Accuracy: He usually throws when his receivers are open and gets them the ball even with excellent defensive coverage. He does have some timing issues occasionally but his accuracy is impeccable for a guy that was not a four year starter at the NCAA level.

Mechanical: He has a compact throwing motion, and a quick release. He spins the ball cleanly, and only needs light correction on his throwing mechanics. Outside the pocket, his mechanics don’t break down he Keeps his eyes level up and down field when rolling out, and doesn’t throw flat footed. He also has very good footwork.

Mobility: He isn’t Michael Vick, but definitely on par with Ben Roethlisberger or Josh Freeman and he will pick up first downs with his legs.

Intangibles: Probably his strongest area. He has an “it” factor and is a winner, a multi-dimensional athlete, is intelligent, and by all accounts is a strong leader in the huddle.

Character: Most people don't have anything negative to say about him. The biggest knock on him is his lack of a prototypical experience level.

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Re: Why not Weeden in the Second Round?
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: March 12, 2012 03:00PM

Ken Wrote:
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> All of those things reasons to take Tannehill but
> in addition to those we have.
>
> Arm Strength: He posseses the arm strength to make
> all the throws at the next level, including the
> “deep out.” and is quite capable of delivering
> the ball with the requisite velocity to any spot
> on the field.
>
> Accuracy: He usually throws when his receivers are
> open and gets them the ball even with excellent
> defensive coverage. He does have some timing
> issues occasionally but his accuracy is impeccable
> for a guy that was not a four year starter at the
> NCAA level.
>
> Mechanical: He has a compact throwing motion, and
> a quick release. He spins the ball cleanly, and
> only needs light correction on his throwing
> mechanics. Outside the pocket, his mechanics
> don’t break down he Keeps his eyes level up and
> down field when rolling out, and doesn’t throw
> flat footed. He also has very good footwork.
>
> Mobility: He isn’t Michael Vick, but definitely
> on par with Ben Roethlisberger or Josh Freeman and
> he will pick up first downs with his legs.
>
> Intangibles: Probably his strongest area. He has
> an “it” factor and is a winner, a
> multi-dimensional athlete, is intelligent, and by
> all accounts is a strong leader in the huddle.
>
> Character: Most people don't have anything
> negative to say about him. The biggest knock on
> him is his lack of a prototypical experience
> level.

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Nice going, Ken, good writeup.

Along with Gil Brandt, many other "pundits" have him as the third best QB coming out.

Someone asked who could take him before Miami got their shot. That would be Cleveland. I guess, despite the good things McCoy did last season, that Cleveland doesn't see him as their starter; they've been trying to replace him since Peyton was cut lose.

If they don't really want to draft Tannehill, then they can blow their smokescreens up everyone's butt, especially Miami, and hope someone will trade with them for that pick. I hope Miami doesn't get suckered in.

Now, if Cleveland does grab Tannehill, then I go back to my original plan -- trade back (no lower than 15) and use one of those 2nd round picks on Weeden. That pick would more than likely be Miami's own (#9 in the 2nd round).

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Re: Why not Weeden in the Second Round?
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: March 14, 2012 06:55AM

How much you all want to make a bet that we are going to trade down in the first round?

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Re: Why not Weeden in the Second Round?
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: March 14, 2012 07:27AM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> How much you all want to make a bet that we are
> going to trade down in the first round?

I'll bet we won't. When was the last time we did?

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Re: Why not Weeden in the Second Round?
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: March 14, 2012 07:47AM

montequi Wrote:
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> samsam3738 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How much you all want to make a bet that we are
> > going to trade down in the first round?
>
> I'll bet we won't. When was the last time we did?


2 yrs ago

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Re: Why not Weeden in the Second Round?
Date: March 14, 2012 07:52AM

Flynn and one of the two, Weeden or Tanehill would be the move.

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Re: Why not Weeden in the Second Round?
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: March 14, 2012 07:55AM

Who could fall to us @ #8 that somebody would want to move up for? Serious question, Richardson?

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Re: Why not Weeden in the Second Round?
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: March 14, 2012 08:10AM

dolphaholic Wrote:
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> montequi Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > samsam3738 Wrote:
> >
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>
> > -----
> > > How much you all want to make a bet that we
> are
> > > going to trade down in the first round?
> >
> > I'll bet we won't. When was the last time we
> did?
>
>
> 2 yrs ago

Good point. I had forgotten about that. I think that was the first time we traded down since JJ.

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Re: Why not Weeden in the Second Round?
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: March 15, 2012 03:41AM

montequi Wrote:
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> dolphaholic Wrote:
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> -----
> > montequi Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > samsam3738 Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > How much you all want to make a bet that we
> > are
> > > > going to trade down in the first round?
> > >
> > > I'll bet we won't. When was the last time we
> > did?
> >
> >
> > 2 yrs ago
>
> Good point. I had forgotten about that. I think
> that was the first time we traded down since JJ.


I think that would be the best thing to do and adquire picks for next year in order to trade up to get barkley.......I think that would be the smart thing to do , trade up. JMO.

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