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No to Welker.....Desean Jackson!
Posted by: realist ()
Date: February 12, 2012 09:49AM

I think Wes Welker is an awesome slot receiver. he may even be the best slot receiver in the NFL.

That said, Devone Bess is a very close 2nd.

I am not interested in spending big money to see Which guy is the better slot.

Welker is not a speedster. Neither is Bess. Neither is Marsall. Nor Hartline.

So if we are going to spend money on a WR....it needs to be a speedster that has proven they are reliable route runners, and reliable catchers.

Vincent Jackson wouldn't be a bad pick-up.

Desean Jackson would be a transforming addition to our roster. He has 4.35 speed, can catch, run with the ball.

Marshall can catch and run with the ball.

Bess can catch and run with the ball.


That trio would make our passing game scary. Vertical threat, sidline threat, middle of the field.

A quick slant to any of those 3 is dangerous.

line them up...look at the coverage and pick your option.

Put Reggie bush on the filed and we have a FAST offense.

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Re: No to Welker.....Desean Jackson!
Posted by: BigNastyFish ()
Date: February 12, 2012 10:31AM

Jackson and Marshall would be great pair for the lockerroom.

hot smiley

Not sure how many head cases Philbin is interested in managing. But I doubt we're interested in importing more problem childs.

Or maybe not.

BNF.

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Re: No to Welker.....Desean Jackson!
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: February 12, 2012 10:49AM

Agreed on Jackson...get him if we can.

Marshall...size and physicality.
Jackson...elite speed.
Bess...agility.
Hartline...hands.
Gates...elite speed.
Moore...above average speed.


Would be a good versatile group of guys.

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Re: No to Welker.....Desean Jackson!
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: February 12, 2012 10:52AM


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Re: No to Welker.....Desean Jackson!
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: February 12, 2012 11:46AM

If they would have just listened to me when Jackson was drafted....then he would Already be a Dolphin! tongue sticking out smiley

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

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Re: No to Welker.....Desean Jackson!
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: February 12, 2012 12:20PM

LOL. Almost every dolphin fan has that gripe about one player or another in one year or another. For me it was Drew Brees and, as berk pointed out, the foolish decision to trade away our no. 19 draft choice in the Randy Moss year the night before the draft although his stock was in the process of rapidly falling and, as it turns out, he fell to number 21 or 22.

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Re: No to Welker.....Desean Jackson!
Posted by: realist ()
Date: February 12, 2012 01:36PM

Drew Brees was on the board when we drafted. I was watching. Waiting for the pick to be announced. They passed on Brees and picked....Jamar Fletcher. ARGH!!!!


I think Desean Jackson became a bigger distraction because the Eagles weren't paying him what he was worth And they weren't talking negotiations. When they rolled out the Brinks van for Vick, and they signed Young to a $4million contract...while he was playing for $550,000, I could see it being a huge distraction.

When teams are winning...people usually are happy. Infighting and finger pointing frequently crop up when teams lose winnable games.

Marshall and Jackson would enjoy less double coverage if they are on the field together. And the rest of the crew would enjoy a ton of space in the middle.

We would need a QB that could throw quick hotreads...because the blitz is the only way you cover a WR Corp like that.

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Re: No to Welker.....Desean Jackson!
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: February 12, 2012 01:45PM

I think JAckson is more detestable than Marshall. All these complaints about Marshall (he dogs it, etc) goes double for Jackson. He blatantly quit on his team last season, jogging thru routes, even had to be benched bc he was upset about his contract. Once he gets paid what makes you think he'll be any different? He'll probably be worse since now he has no incentive to try. Guys motivated solely by money are not trustworthy.
Anyway I don't want to pay any big $$ to a FA WR, we've got way bigger needs.

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Re: No to Welker.....Desean Jackson!
Posted by: Finshady ()
Date: February 12, 2012 03:43PM

Colby Fleener with a healthy Brandon Marshall, Brian Hartline, and Anthony Fasano then well you have matchup problems all over the field kind of like the Cheatriots with their offensive set. Give me a Dallas Clark type hybrid tight end wide reciever, and I will kill your defense on game day. With Peyton manning if we get him, it will be lights out for the other team.

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Re: No to Welker.....Desean Jackson!
Posted by: realist ()
Date: February 12, 2012 04:08PM

Different people are motivated by different things.

Jackson came into the league, got a mediocre contract in keeping with his status. He worked hard, and outplayed his contract. It happens. A lot.

Some teams extend and give bonuses, others say...this is a business...play out your deal.

He was immature and took the 'business' side personally and let it eat away at him. I don't approve of it...but he was young, frustrated, and it showed. Pay him according to his playing ability and I think you will see a different attitude.

In fact, despite the childish behaviour, the hold-out attitude, the benching...he still lead the team in receiving yards.

But...the Eagles will likely tag him.

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Re: No to Welker.....Desean Jackson!
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: February 12, 2012 04:49PM

Realist's view over berk's.

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Re: No to Welker.....Desean Jackson!
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: February 12, 2012 04:51PM

reported tonite they are tagging him so it's a 'mute' point as some would say

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Re: No to Welker.....Desean Jackson!
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: February 12, 2012 05:35PM

Would that be a point that can't speak?

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Re: No to Welker.....Desean Jackson!
Posted by: BigNastyFish ()
Date: February 12, 2012 06:09PM

Oh, the vaunted MUTE point has devoided everything!

LOL. And BNF.

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Re: No to Welker.....Desean Jackson!
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: February 12, 2012 06:38PM

LOL.

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Re: No to Welker.....Desean Jackson!
Posted by: Phinjim ()
Date: February 13, 2012 06:38AM

Realist said: Marshall and Jackson would enjoy less double coverage if they are on the field together. And the rest of the crew would enjoy a ton of space in the middle.

We would need a QB that could throw quick hotreads...because the blitz is the only way you cover a WR Corp like that.

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Well said on both points. I don't see why we don't see the value in having strong wr corp. n It will make any QB better. I can't see us having the cash for welker now, but love the guy.

What's worse for the Pats.... if we or anyone else gets welker the Pats and Brady aint squat when he's not playing.

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Re: No to Welker.....Desean Jackson!
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: February 13, 2012 12:13PM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Would that be a point that can't speak?


LOL, I hate is when people use "mute point." Just drives me crazy.

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Re: No to Welker.....Desean Jackson!
Posted by: JC ()
Date: February 13, 2012 12:46PM

Ken Wrote:
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> ChyrenB Wrote:
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> > Would that be a point that can't speak?
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> LOL, I hate is when people use "mute point." Just
> drives me crazy.


Whenever I see or hear that...it makes me speechless.

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Re: No to Welker.....Desean Jackson!
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: February 13, 2012 12:48PM

It would be fun to look up the historical roots of "moot" and see if there is any connection because a point that is moot is "silenced" if exactly not "silent," true? To bad TT blocked me or he could research it for us.

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Re: No to Welker.....Desean Jackson!
Posted by: realist ()
Date: February 13, 2012 01:02PM

Actually, it is the opposite.

It came from the word 'to meet', suggesting a point that can be debated in so many ways that there is no way to come to a consensus, and is therefore not worth debating.

The 'not worth debating' is the part that stuck as it was applied to 'it doesn't matter anymore.'

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Re: No to Welker.....Desean Jackson!
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: February 13, 2012 01:16PM

The lawyer stands instructed.

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Re: No to Welker.....Desean Jackson!
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: February 13, 2012 04:39PM

I heard Jackson will be franchised

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Re: No to Welker.....Desean Jackson!
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: February 14, 2012 04:32AM

i agree with all that say we do not need welker sinnce we got bess...

Now desean jackson is a no brainer. Definetely hope we have a crack at him

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Re: No to Welker.....Desean Jackson!
Posted by: Phinjim ()
Date: February 14, 2012 09:35AM


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Re: No to Welker.....Desean Jackson!
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: February 14, 2012 10:57AM

I like the use of the pictures of the jackass versus the owl, Phinjim. Lots of chuckles.

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