Washington 5-10 to beat Phil.
Cleveland 4-11 to beat Pitt.
Jax 4-11 to beat INdy (we can't catch Indy)
Tampa 4-11 to beat Atlanta

FOR INSURANCE (in case we beat the hated Jets) WE NEED

Buff. 6-9 to beat NE
Car. 6-9 to beat NO
KC 6-9 to beat Denver

so if all that happens and we lose to the jets we finished ties with was, cle, jax, and tampa with 5 wins. we are behind indy, minn, and stl with 3 or less wins. so we'd pick at best 4th and at worst 8th? I think it'd be closer to 8th since our strength of schedule must be pretty strong since we play pats and jets 2x and the other teams play in weaker divisions.

it may be better for indy to win, and lose the top spot, since we'd be more likely to trade into #1 if stl is #1

St.Louis lost to Pitt today and play S.F in the last game, St.Louis could end up with the first pick if Indy wins their last game at Jacksonville which is sort of possible now.

If both St.Louis and Indy finish the season at 2 wins anyone know how the first pick is determined? and who would get it if that scenario played out?



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indy gets it if they lose next week. they win the tie breaker which is opponents strenght of schedule

I'll be at the Jets game, sorry I just can't root for the Sum bitches.

So, what if Indy wins again and St. Louis drafts Luck as the #1 pick....just to shake things up? You know, it COULD happen!

Likely the Rams will trade their pick for a boatload of picks because they have found out that a franchise QB alone will not give you instant success.

we are currently #8. Even if we lose and all of the other 5 win teams lose and the 4 win teams win, due to strength of sched I doubt we'd be able to move up past 6 or 7. maybe the best thing for us would be to have the colts win and rams lose, so that we could have a willing trading partner to get andrew luck. That my friends will be PAINFUL trade. Not sure if we're ready as fans to sit out the next 3 or 4 first rounds in the coming years, which is what it could take (plus maybe a player or other picks). yikes.

here is the draft order as of today. we've got tie breakers only with CLE, KC, and TB. So we need to root for CLE and TB to win, and us to lose, if we are to move up in the draft. If we lose, and CLE and WAS win, I think we pick ahead of both of them, which is HUGE for getting a QB. I doubt CLE beats PIT and WAS beats PHI, but stranger things have happened. Of course we'll beat the jets so this all is moot, and it will be right tackle city once again in the draft.

1. Colts 2-13 (.552)
2. Rams 2-13 (.571)
3. Minnesota 3-12 (.565)
4. Cleveland 4-11 (.516)
5. Jacksonville 4-11 (.529)
6. Tampa Bay 4-11 (.545)
7. Washington 5-10 (.476)
8. Miami 5-10 (.511)
9. Carolina 6-9 (.482)
10. Buffalo 6-9 (.498)
11. Kansas City 6-9 (.516)
12. Arizona 7-8 (.476)
13. Philadelphia 7-8 (.500)
14. Seattle 7-8 (.509)
15. San Diego 7-8 (.516)
16. Chicago 7-8 (.556)
17. Tennessee 8-7 (.453)
18. Dallas 8-7 (.467)
19. New York Jets 8-7 (.502)
20. Oakland 8-7 (.507)

Luck all by himself simply isn't worth the price. If he was there when we pick certainly, if all we had to do was move up one or two or maybe three positions then yes as well. But to move up from seven or eight to one, and lose three first round picks as well as a second and third, which is what some are guessing the price to be would set the entire team back.

Luck, no matter how good he may turn out to be. Can't do it all by himself.

IMHO Griffin is a much more reasonable target...and moving up to get him may be too expensive as well.

I think at this point, unless a lot of dominoes fall just right for us next week...the best options for us are to look at Foles or Tannehill at our pick or to trade down for the same guys, or to look at other positions of need and go with what we have, Moore, Henne (or a F/A, or Trade aquisition) and Devlin.

Well, let's be real. Indy ain't trading out the right to pick Luck for anything. Having had Peyton all this time, they above all else know what the value of having a great QB is.

I would pick RG III if we could get him without a trade.

If he is gone, then we can't force a square peg into a round hole. I don't think that any other QB is worth a top 8 pick. Maybe Landry Jones but I think not. We then should look to the rest of our team and draft another QB in later rounds.

carolina will beat NO when the frogs grow hair.....Unless NO rests their starters.

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> carolina will beat NO when the frogs grow
> hair.....Unless NO rests their starters.

Then we all better invest in amphibian Rogaine, because this WILL happen sometime in the next few seasons.