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If Indy really IS this bad...
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: November 06, 2011 03:00PM

...wouldn't it make more sense for them to trade down from #1 and stockpile picks? Would Andrew Luck...sitting on the bench...really turn them into a Superbowl contender by himself? Just a thought.

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Re: If Indy really IS this bad...
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: November 06, 2011 03:26PM

no

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Re: If Indy really IS this bad...
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: November 06, 2011 03:30PM

alot is gonna depend on how Peyton recovers over the next few months IMO. If they feel he is solid, then it is gonna be hard for them to let him go and draft Luck, instead of having this amazing ability to build some young talent around Peyton for another run. With Luck, they still have alot of holes to fill before they have a chance IMO with the shape their team is in

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Re: If Indy really IS this bad...
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: November 06, 2011 03:45PM

if manning doesn't play this year, and he won't, i don't know how they can rely on him playing next year. nerve damage isn't like a knee, you never know if/when it will be fixed

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Re: If Indy really IS this bad...
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: November 07, 2011 05:44AM

Irsay already said (well, strongly hinted), if they have the #1 pick...they are taking Andrew Luck.

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Re: If Indy really IS this bad...
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: November 07, 2011 05:51AM

Irsay with at this point being in last place, is going to tell everyone that of course... It creates more value when other teams try and make offers for the pick at some point... If Irsay said we are not interested in him we have Peyton Manning, it would lower the value. The second pick would pick up worth.... The pick is only valuable becasue of Luck, that is what he will be buying or selling ,either way, hype is good for him...

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Re: If Indy really IS this bad...
Posted by: KB ()
Date: November 07, 2011 06:04AM

Lets see. Colts, Playoff team last year. bottom of the barrel this year. Who was it that got hurt? Now tell me again how a QB doesn't make the difference smiling smiley.

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Re: If Indy really IS this bad...
Posted by: (R/J)ay ()
Date: November 07, 2011 06:56AM

Peyton Manning by himself makes that team a contender. You think that armed with that knowledge, they trade down? Are you nuts?

They know Peyton is done. They're taking Luck. The only weapon we have here is that Luck could pull an Eli/Elway (and based on the horrible, venomous infighting going on in the Colts organization right now, he might just do that).

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Re: If Indy really IS this bad...
Posted by: estrella69phinfan ()
Date: November 07, 2011 07:13AM

The colts are not passing on luck folks. Write it down. They will definetely Kdraft luck.

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Re: If Indy really IS this bad...
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: November 07, 2011 07:16AM

(R/J)ay Wrote:
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> Peyton Manning by himself makes that team a
> contender. You think that armed with that
> knowledge, they trade down? Are you nuts?
>
> They know Peyton is done. They're taking Luck.
> The only weapon we have here is that Luck could
> pull an Eli/Elway (and based on the horrible,
> venomous infighting going on in the Colts
> organization right now, he might just do that).


I've said this before. I didn't know Peyton plays defense and special teams. For years Peyton has compensated for a weak defense and ST. The Colts should consider what they could do with a bunch of picks in the first 3 rounds to finally get Peyton the defense he needs.

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Re: If Indy really IS this bad...
Posted by: Doug-THE-Dolfan ()
Date: November 07, 2011 07:16AM

Indy is playing for the future. When they re-establish themselves I want to hear all of the Dolphins win now croud come out and say how nice it was for the phins to not play for the future.

Go Miami!!!


SUCK FOR LUCK!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: If Indy really IS this bad...
Posted by: estrella69phinfan ()
Date: November 07, 2011 07:24AM

We have to give indi an offer they can't refuse to trade up to the first slot. We have to take a chance sometime this century in order to get better.

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Re: If Indy really IS this bad...
Posted by: (R/J)ay ()
Date: November 07, 2011 08:23AM

montequi Wrote:
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> (R/J)ay Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Peyton Manning by himself makes that team a
> > contender. You think that armed with that
> > knowledge, they trade down? Are you nuts?
> >
> > They know Peyton is done. They're taking Luck.
>
> > The only weapon we have here is that Luck could
> > pull an Eli/Elway (and based on the horrible,
> > venomous infighting going on in the Colts
> > organization right now, he might just do that).
>
>
> I've said this before. I didn't know Peyton plays
> defense and special teams. For years Peyton has
> compensated for a weak defense and ST. The Colts
> should consider what they could do with a bunch of
> picks in the first 3 rounds to finally get Peyton
> the defense he needs.


Why would they try to draft a bunch of guys to try to rebuild the defense when they can just get another top QB and go back to winning and have another face of the franchise to sell tons of jerseys?

They're taking Luck.

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Re: If Indy really IS this bad...
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: November 07, 2011 08:38AM

(R/J)ay Wrote:
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> Why would they try to draft a bunch of guys to try
> to rebuild the defense when they can just get
> another top QB and go back to winning and have
> another face of the franchise to sell tons of
> jerseys?
>
> They're taking Luck.

Because having a QB that gets them into the playoffs leaves them in the same place WE were with Marino (lots of wins, no Superbowls). If they keep Manning and rebuild the defense, then they could play at the level Pitt and NE have been for the last 10+ years. Do they want championships, or do they want to be just-good-enough to make the playoffs??

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Re: If Indy really IS this bad...
Posted by: (R/J)ay ()
Date: November 07, 2011 10:16AM


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Re: If Indy really IS this bad...
Posted by: (R/J)ay ()
Date: November 07, 2011 10:18AM

When Peyton came out a few days ago and admitted that the procedure hasn't yet started to produce any desired results, I don't know if there's anything else that needs to be said.

The guy needs to go visit a faith healer or something because a miracle is exactly what it's going to take for him to come back and be an elite QB again.

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Re: If Indy really IS this bad...
Date: November 07, 2011 11:56AM

Miami is such a sad franchise. Look at INdy. Manning to Luck. WTF is wrong with this Team? I can see a bad year , but 10 years without a legitmate Franchise QB!? WTF!?

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Re: If Indy really IS this bad...
Posted by: razorghost ()
Date: November 07, 2011 01:22PM

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> Miami is such a sad franchise. Look at INdy.
> Manning to Luck. WTF is wrong with this Team? I
> can see a bad year , but 10 years without a
> legitmate Franchise QB!? WTF!?


If the Phins aren't bad enough to get him I could sort of stomach teams like Seattle, Cleveland or even K.C getting Luck, but the fact that Indianapolis who have been superbowl contenders for the last 10 years has 1 goddamn off year and has the replacement for Manning just like that makes me absolutely sick!!

Why Indy? ughhhhhhhhhh

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Re: If Indy really IS this bad...
Posted by: Doug-THE-Dolfan ()
Date: November 07, 2011 01:24PM

The football godz can be very cruel. We will get our day again.

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Re: If Indy really IS this bad...
Posted by: PHINSKISS13 ()
Date: November 07, 2011 02:38PM

Luck is going to Indy unless we do something drastic....Peyton is 36 and those injuries never fully heal.

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