What the hell is wrong with it? I've never seen a player sit out 3 games play one, then sit out 3 games. Is it chronic?

I have seen that....hammies can easily get re-aggravated if the player returns to the field before it's completely healed.

JC Wrote:
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> I have seen that....hammies can easily get
> re-aggravated if the player returns to the field
> before it's completely healed.


So why would they play him if he isnt 100 percent healthy?

I will answer it for you......To save face and save their jobs next year as coaches which aint going to happen anyways.

If they were ensured their jobs as coaches next year i can guarantee you they would put him on ir the rest of the season and jake long as well. Because every single one of them knows the season is over.



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Why risk a players career like that tell me? Especially when his career is just starting.

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> JC Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I have seen that....hammies can easily get
> > re-aggravated if the player returns to the
> field
> > before it's completely healed.
>
>
> So why would they play him if he isnt 100 percent
> healthy?
>
> I will answer it for you......To save face and
> save their jobs next year as coaches which aint
> going to happen anyways.
>
> If they were ensured their jobs as coaches next
> year i can guarantee you they would put him on ir
> the rest of the season and jake long as well.
> Because every single one of them knows the season
> is over.


Could be, or it could be as simple as the trainer and strength coach mis-evaluated his condition, as they have been doing all year in general. The team is very out of shape. I heard Hank Goldberg say a week or two ago that we have a new strength coach this year. Well, he sucks.

I know the offseason basically didn't exist but 31 other teams are in better physical shape than we are and they had the same lockout issues.

JC Wrote:
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we have a new strength
> coach this year. Well, he sucks.

I definetely agree. He stinks.




> I know the offseason basically didn't exist but 31
> other teams are in better physical shape than we
> are and they had the same lockout issues.

Exactly. Which bring us back to the coaches and strengh and conditioning coach. He stinks.

Which leads us back to the guy that hired him, Ireland? Yeah we know you are gone.

I would give Daboll a D-.

He has yet to use Reggie Bush correctly. he got lucky with a couple long runs against the Giants.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

toko34 Wrote:
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> As a matter of fact lets take a look and grade
> these guys, the mid term evaluation if you
> will...
>
>
> Grade
> D- Tony Sparano Head Coach
> D- Todd Bowles Assistant Head Coach/Secondary
> D- Steve Bush Wide Receivers
> D Dan Campbell Tight Ends
> F David Corrao Defensive Quality
> Control/Assistant Linebackers
> F Bryan Cox Pass Rush
> C Brian Daboll Offensive Coordinator
> D Joe Danna Assistant Secondary
> F Dave DeGuglielmo Offensive Line
> C Karl Dorrell Quarterbacks
> F Dave Fipp Assistant Special Teams
> C Ike Hilliard Assistant Wide Receivers
> F Darren Krein Head Strength And Conditioning
>
> C Jeff Nixon Running Backs
> D Mike Nolan Defensive Coordinator
> F Dave Puloka Assistant Strength And
> Conditioning
> F Darren Rizzi Special Teams Coordinator
> F Kacy Rodgers Defensive Line
> D Bill Sheridan Linebackers
> D Tony Sparano Jr. Offensive Quality
> Control
>


Your rankings are too kind. I give Sparano an F-.

toko34 Wrote:
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> As a matter of fact lets take a look and grade
> these guys, the mid term evaluation if you
> will...
>
>
> Grade
> D- Tony Sparano Head Coach
> D- Todd Bowles Assistant Head Coach/Secondary
> D- Steve Bush Wide Receivers
> D Dan Campbell Tight Ends
> F David Corrao Defensive Quality
> Control/Assistant Linebackers
> F Bryan Cox Pass Rush
> C Brian Daboll Offensive Coordinator
> D Joe Danna Assistant Secondary
> F Dave DeGuglielmo Offensive Line
> C Karl Dorrell Quarterbacks
> F Dave Fipp Assistant Special Teams
> C Ike Hilliard Assistant Wide Receivers
> F Darren Krein Head Strength And Conditioning
>
> C Jeff Nixon Running Backs
> D Mike Nolan Defensive Coordinator
> F Dave Puloka Assistant Strength And
> Conditioning
> F Darren Rizzi Special Teams Coordinator
> F Kacy Rodgers Defensive Line
> D Bill Sheridan Linebackers
> D Tony Sparano Jr. Offensive Quality
> Control
>


And you are giving out Ds......You too kool man...

for me everybody gets an F with a huge minus. F-

I think Daboll is alright, he is working with this abysmal offensive line, which personnel wise is horrible. When we have all our guys esp MR. D.Thomas to run the inside ground game, It's not too bad. QB play has improved significantly over last season.


The secondary coaches I'm giving a mini pass too as well since our D-Line is easily the worst in the NFL.

However, there is little question that probably all of these guys are gone next season.

when parcells came in one of the things he talked smack about was all the injuries in 2007, implying the practicing/workout program/training staff wasn't up to par. Well looks at what's happening now.

to the original question, yes, players have had injured hammys, sat out, came back, then sat out again. that is exactly what's going on with vontae davis right now

Davis, Thomas, Clemons...we need a hamstring-specific workout next TC to avoid this going forward!!!

Disagree on Mike Nolan. His defense has failed miserably.

Rick

I'd give all of them a D-.

There wasn't sufficient flexibility training this preseason. There are way too many Dolphins with hamstring and groin type injuries. Other teams are seeing similar injuries too.

You would have thought, at least I would have thought, that players knowing the preseason was short would do their own conditioning. If you are going to run a marathon race, don't think for one minute it can be done without training and building up to it over time. The NFL season is like a marathon except tougher as runners don't get tackled and thrown to the ground.

Many years ago I suffered a terrible hamstring injury. It hurt to walk. Bending down was nearly impossible, and it took many months of stretching and walking, then jogging, then running to get it healthy. These guys can't recover in a few weeks. Granted I didn't enjoy the same pampering these athletes get today, but a youthful body still takes lots of time to get well.

The bottom line is it takes time to heal.

ChambersDeepBall Wrote:
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> What the hell is wrong with it? I've never seen a
> player sit out 3 games play one, then sit out 3
> games. Is it chronic?


nah, chronic usually relaxes muscles.

Tony's son is responsible for Offensive Quality Control?

I just lost the last remaining piece of respect I had for the meat ball.

As a Quality Engineer for the last 20 + years I think this team needs a 100% complete over haul.

I would be happy if the only person remaining on the 2012 Dolphins from the 2011 Dolphins was Long.

And 100% means 100%. All front office personnel, owners, coaches, administrative, players, trainers, equipment managers, even the gosh darn doorman needs to go - exactly at 12 noon on Jan 2, 2012.

Jr: Hey Dad! Can I get a ride to the mall?

Sr: How about I put you on the Dolphin's payroll? Then you can buy your own mall.

Jr. Ok,cool!............but can I still get that ride?