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Daniel Thomas looked great with Henne. Not so much with Moore
Posted by: ChambersDeepBall ()
Date: October 25, 2011 06:15AM

Moore can't stretch the field. Teams are stacking the box daring us to run.

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Re: Daniel Thomas looked great with Henne. Not so much with Moore
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: October 25, 2011 06:31AM

Henne couldn't stretch the field.....!!!!


Moore is even worse.....!!!!


Enough said!

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Re: Daniel Thomas looked great with Henne. Not so much with Moore
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: October 25, 2011 06:48AM

BTW Daniel Thomas is doing the best he can with what we have.....I think he is going to be a very good back.....Just hope he doesnt injure himself in this useless season.....................

I hope they use him sparingly..............Probably not anyways....What does sparano care. He is not even going to be here next year.

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Re: Daniel Thomas looked great with Henne. Not so much with Moore
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: October 25, 2011 06:58AM

Henne did better with this offense than Moore, and, YES, Henne could stretch the field...at least with 20-30 yard passes.

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Re: Daniel Thomas looked great with Henne. Not so much with Moore
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: October 25, 2011 07:12AM

20-30 yard passes?

When , where?

Maybe a couple of times.

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Re: Daniel Thomas looked great with Henne. Not so much with Moore
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: October 25, 2011 07:29AM

On the very first drive in our very first game, Henne had passes of 25 (Marshall) and 22 (Fasano). He had pass to Bess for 26 in the 2nd quarter. 3rd quarter, 22 and 25 to Marshall, 28 to Fasano, and 23 to Bess. 4th quarter, 21 to Fasano, 31 to Marshall, 23 and 26 to Bess. This doesn't count the 2 deep passes he missed to Gates and Hartline.

A lot of those yards were runs after the catch, but you have to credit Henne for getting the ball in the right place so the receiver could run.

Regardless of deep passes or runs after catch, either of those help the running game...and Moore hasn't been very good at either.

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Re: Daniel Thomas looked great with Henne. Not so much with Moore
Posted by: Krunk Fu ()
Date: October 25, 2011 07:31AM

I'm no fan of Henne, but he did play much, much better than Moore this season.

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Re: Daniel Thomas looked great with Henne. Not so much with Moore
Posted by: socalphin ()
Date: October 25, 2011 07:36AM

It has nothing to do with who the QB is.
What? Henne could throw maybe 5 yards further? Seriously?
Try play calling, or execution as the problem. Not who's at QB.
If anything, defenses are stacking the box with the intension of making us throw to an underwhelming core of receivers.
I actually thought Moore looked better than what I've seen of Henne lately.
Dont get me wrong, I don't think either are the answer or are even close. I just don't think the running game is any worse with either QB in there.

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Re: Daniel Thomas looked great with Henne. Not so much with Moore
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: October 25, 2011 07:42AM

Henne threw for almost 500 yards against NE. Moore has barely done half that. Why do you think they're stacking the box against us now? It's because they have no respect for Moore. With Henne they were blitzing the heck out of him, because they knew if he had time he'd make completions. With Moore they're stacking the box and DARING him to throw.

Yes, defensive gameplans HAVE changed, and the reason is EXACTLY the QB.

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Re: Daniel Thomas looked great with Henne. Not so much with Moore
Posted by: Krunk Fu ()
Date: October 25, 2011 08:05AM

I'm sort of confused here. Were people actually expecting Moore to be the answer at QB?

Are people actually surprised he hasn't played well?

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Re: Daniel Thomas looked great with Henne. Not so much with Moore
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: October 25, 2011 08:10AM

montequi Wrote:
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> On the very first drive in our very first game,
> Henne had passes of 25 (Marshall) and 22 (Fasano).
> He had pass to Bess for 26 in the 2nd quarter.
> 3rd quarter, 22 and 25 to Marshall, 28 to Fasano,
> and 23 to Bess. 4th quarter, 21 to Fasano, 31 to
> Marshall, 23 and 26 to Bess. This doesn't count
> the 2 deep passes he missed to Gates and
> Hartline.
>
> A lot of those yards were runs after the catch,
> but you have to credit Henne for getting the ball
> in the right place so the receiver could run.
>
> Regardless of deep passes or runs after catch,
> either of those help the running game...and Moore
> hasn't been very good at either.


And they still stacked the LOS because they werent afraid of hennes deep touch...

Henne is a second stringer at best. He never developed a deep throw he never got in sync with the receivers....He was a mess..

Yes he did pretty good at times....Very little flashes....But at crunch time he peed in his pants...

I was sick of him throwing the INT at crunch time...with a couple minutes left.

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Re: Daniel Thomas looked great with Henne. Not so much with Moore
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: October 25, 2011 08:12AM

Its like i already expected it....And when it happened i said to myself....there we go again.....I wasn't even surprised no more.

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Re: Daniel Thomas looked great with Henne. Not so much with Moore
Posted by: JC ()
Date: October 25, 2011 08:33AM

Krunk Fu Wrote:
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> I'm sort of confused here. Were people actually
> expecting Moore to be the answer at QB?
>
> Are people actually surprised he hasn't played
> well?

The people who hated Henne so much that they chanted for us to get Orton during training camp--those people expected Moore (or anyone else) to do better than Henne.

the any-but-Henne crowd, that's who is surprised.

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Re: Daniel Thomas looked great with Henne. Not so much with Moore
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: October 25, 2011 09:23AM

Henne played better than last year, but not nearly well enough to be a winning QB (notwithstanding dolfanmark's obfuscating statistics---I will focus on the crunch-time pants pissing). I think Moore at his best can be about as good as henne this year; he's not playing his best and that's not good enough anyway. No suprises here.

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Re: Daniel Thomas looked great with Henne. Not so much with Moore
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: October 25, 2011 10:16AM

I don't deny Henne's ineptness in crunch time, but I'm looking at shades of grey, rather than black and white. Sure Henne's not a franchise 1st string QB, but he's better than Moore. Moore is, at best, a 3rd-stringer. I wouldn't mind Henne as our backup next year...but I doubt it will happen. He'll find another team and win games for them from time-to-time.

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