trade Brandon Marshall for Brandon Lloyd, straight up.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

You DO realize that Lloyd plays for the same team that Marshall used to play for. No way Denver trades for Marshall.

Well, it was Josh McDaniels who traded Marshall. Remember, they had a serious fued...he and Marshall.


McDaniels is no longer there.

But, I never said it would actually happen, but a man can "wish", right!?

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

marshsall is much better than lloyd, so no

No way. Lloyd is way better.... much better team player too.

He would be much better for our team.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

So, why are they trading him?

No for character issues, thats for sure.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

marsall's been good for 5+ years, lloyd's been good for just 1 in 5. I'd rather have marshall

Guess you would rather have herpes too.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

....and Berk, you do realize Lloyd was on the 49ers, right!? That should give him a pass.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

i bet we could get lloyd for a 4th, and trade marshall for a 3d to another team. if we wanted to make the deal i'd rather do it that way. but i am fine keeping marshall or even dealing him in the offseson if we have to

After Marshalls last statement about getting tossed out against the Jets.......he's not being traded anywhere. Maybe thats why he said it.

Id take a second round pick for marshall right now.

I wished we could...eat our vegetables and poop out gold coins.

Go Miami!!!


SUCK FOR LUCK!!!

Marshall has almost zero trade value. No team is going to take a $10M cap hit in 2012 to carry Marshall's contract. Except for the Dolphins, who will have to take the hit when the new regime releases Marshall.

The only hope would be some team with Super Bowl aspirations and a desperate, desperate need at WR. And even then, the 2012 cap number could still be a stumbling block.

Welcome back Mark. I was afraid that you had bailed after seeing so many jest and cheatriot fans come out of the closet.

Brandon Lloyd just got traded for a 6th round pick...wow.

Pro-bowl WR, no character issues....6th round pick. Hmmmm..

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

i think lloyd is a fa after this year so that may have had something to do with it
last few big name WR trades
s holmes---5th rounder
b lloyd--6th rounder
b marshall---2 2d rounders

what's wrong with this picture?

Hooligan2 Wrote:
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> Welcome back Mark. I was afraid that you had
> bailed after seeing so many jest and cheatriot
> fans come out of the closet.


Thanks. No, just too discouraged, so checked out for a couple of weeks. Can't believe we have to start all over again. But, that's going to be the case.

Doug-THE-Dolfan Wrote:
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> I wished we could...eat our vegetables and poop
> out gold coins.
>
> Go Miami!!!
>
>
> SUCK FOR LUCK!!!


and pee wine.

I would always be drunk.

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> i think lloyd is a fa after this year so that may
> have had something to do with it
> last few big name WR trades
> s holmes---5th rounder
> b lloyd--6th rounder
> b marshall---2 2d rounders
>
> what's wrong with this picture?


Most know my feelings on Marshall personally. I could not stand taking on a guy with his history of violence toward women. But, from a pure football standpoint, I've always argued that he didn't fit what we needed. And that makes the move to get him and sign him long term even worse. We needed a guy who could make plays downfield. A true "X" receiver, a la Mark Duper or Irving Fryar. Marshall is a "Z" receiver who thinks he is in the "X" role. It's not that we use him wrong, or that he doesn't have a real QB in Miami. Marshall averaged 12 yards per catch in his career at Denver, and only 11 yards per catch in his last season with them. That is not what you are looking for or need from an X receiver. And then factor in that Marshall averaged about 4.5 yards after catch in Denver. So, the average pass to Marshall during his Denver career was completed 7 or 8 yards downfield. We already had Davone Bess, Anthony Fasano, and Ronnie Brown/Ricky Williams working the underneath part of the field. We needed a guy to stretch the defense, and be a guy who averages 15+ yards per catch, and consistently delivers big plays. Instead, we got Marshall, who is another guy who excels at the underneath routes. The result is that the safeties cheat closer to the line, clogging the underneath routes for everyone, and bringing them closer to the line for defending the run. He doesn't fit what we needed him to do. And we were stupid for expending the resources it took to get him when he wasn't an ideal fit for what we needed. We needed a Vincent Jackson type receiver, but we settled for a possession type receiver, with bad hands, and a ton of off field baggage. And the new regime will be hamstrung by the cap hit when we cut him. We would have been much better off just drafting Hakeem Nicks in 2009, and keeping the draft picks and the money for other needs.

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> Doug-THE-Dolfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I wished we could...eat our vegetables and poop
> > out gold coins.
> >
> > Go Miami!!!
> >
> >
> > SUCK FOR LUCK!!!
>
>
> and pee wine.
>
> I would always be drunk.


you drink your pee? ew

dolfanmark Wrote:
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> berkeley223 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > i think lloyd is a fa after this year so that
> may
> > have had something to do with it
> > last few big name WR trades
> > s holmes---5th rounder
> > b lloyd--6th rounder
> > b marshall---2 2d rounders
> >
> > what's wrong with this picture?
>
>
> Most know my feelings on Marshall personally. I
> could not stand taking on a guy with his history
> of violence toward women. But, from a pure
> football standpoint, I've always argued that he
> didn't fit what we needed. And that makes the move
> to get him and sign him long term even worse. We
> needed a guy who could make plays downfield. A
> true "X" receiver, a la Mark Duper or Irving
> Fryar. Marshall is a "Z" receiver who thinks he is
> in the "X" role. It's not that we use him wrong,
> or that he doesn't have a real QB in Miami.
> Marshall averaged 12 yards per catch in his career
> at Denver, and only 11 yards per catch in his last
> season with them. That is not what you are looking
> for or need from an X receiver. And then factor in
> that Marshall averaged about 4.5 yards after catch
> in Denver. So, the average pass to Marshall during
> his Denver career was completed 7 or 8 yards
> downfield. We already had Davone Bess, Anthony
> Fasano, and Ronnie Brown/Ricky Williams working
> the underneath part of the field. We needed a guy
> to stretch the defense, and be a guy who averages
> 15+ yards per catch, and consistently delivers big
> plays. Instead, we got Marshall, who is another
> guy who excels at the underneath routes. The
> result is that the safeties cheat closer to the
> line, clogging the underneath routes for everyone,
> and bringing them closer to the line for defending
> the run. He doesn't fit what we needed him to do.
> And we were stupid for expending the resources it
> took to get him when he wasn't an ideal fit for
> what we needed. We needed a Vincent Jackson type
> receiver, but we settled for a possession type
> receiver, with bad hands, and a ton of off field
> baggage. And the new regime will be hamstrung by
> the cap hit when we cut him. We would have been
> much better off just drafting Hakeem Nicks in
> 2009, and keeping the draft picks and the money
> for other needs.

totally correct. it seems when we finally do make a move to fill a hole, we always pick the wrong guy. we could've had nicks over vonte davis a few years ago in a very strong WR draft. We ended up not taking a WR at all (Pat Turner doesn't count)

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> samsam3738 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Doug-THE-Dolfan Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I wished we could...eat our vegetables and
> poop
> > > out gold coins.
> > >
> > > Go Miami!!!
> > >
> > >
> > > SUCK FOR LUCK!!!
> >
> >
> > and pee wine.
> >
> > I would always be drunk.
>
>
> you drink your pee? ew


Negative...........i heard of people that do!..........They say its good to the kidneys.

But if it was wine...hell yeah i would drink it. Red wine.

I wished we could end this discussion about drinking one's own wee-wee.

JC Wrote:
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> I wished we could end this discussion about
> drinking one's own wee-wee.

Agreed.....DONE...........Lets keep talking about the draft and andrew luck.


or how we are going to beat or not beat the jets tonight...

I just dont have that weird phsycotic feeling i get when we play the jets....I wish we were at least 2-2 so i could have it.

that monday night when arnold swartsashitter predicted the jets would win and they came back.(((((Monday night miracle remember)))..Its a really a terrible gut feeling i get when we play the jets.