no it's not perverse, an active duty soldier who commits a crime on duty gets tried in the military justice system.
as for KSM, I totally disagreed with trying him in federal court. he too should be tried before a military commission. thankfully they did a 180 and are now going to do that.
So if we don't desacrate Bin Laden's body, we're bowing down to Islam? Really? That's about 50 GIANT leaps in logic.
If you truly believe that, I think it's safe to say that you and I are too far apart on this issue to find any common ground. So I'll respectfully bow out of the discussion at this point.
Regardless, I think unleashing the full fury of American military might on terrorists around the world who wish to do harm to America (which I support) is "responding with ferocity", not feeding the corpse of a slain criminal to pigs.
Hey, berk, I grew up in Fort Sill, Oklahoma. I know the law on crimes committed on a military base. I was just saying how perverse the comparison of how an American citizen is treated and how, because of how the Arabs have you guys so frightened, you are willing to bend over backwards so as not to offend their terrorists.
Panteraize Wrote:
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> So if we don't desacrate Bin Laden's body, we're
> bowing down to Islam? Really? That's about 50
> GIANT leaps in logic.
RESPONSE: Yep! If you can do that as a deterrence to those who are so religious that they may think twice about their immortal soul then that's a good thing! If you let fear of their retaliation stop you from implementing that plan, then you are bowing down to them.
That's only 2 steps.
>
> If you truly believe that, I think it's safe to
> say that you and I are too far apart on this issue
> to find any common ground. So I'll respectfully
> bow out of the discussion at this point.
>
> Regardless, I think unleashing the full fury of
> American military might on terrorists around the
> world who wish to do harm to America (which I
> support) is "responding with ferocity", not
> feeding the corpse of a slain criminal to pigs.
RESPONSE: The latter is to do whatever you can to deter the faithful and let them know "There'll be no 40 virgins for Youuuuuu!"
And I don't give a s_it about their bodies so that doesn't bother me. If it bothers you, then hey.
Agreed....Muslims dont scare me out of doing anything....What pisses me off is that we can burn 50 bibles and everyone says we have that freedom....but burn one koran and even many Americans cry we shouldn't do that....to heck with them....I have served 26 years and have the right to read the bible and burn the koran if I want to....once I buy any book I can do anything I want with it!
ChyrenB Wrote:
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> > If i may have a say in this....
> >
> > What would you have done if you were george
> bush
> > as far as the 9-11 happenings?
> >
> > 1. Nothing
> >
> > 2. An Eye for An eye a tooth for a tooth.
> >
> > I pick # 2.
> >
> > PS> We had to show them you don't mess with the
> > best country in the world. It was a lesson to
> > them.
> >
> >
> > Im Republican BTW.
>
>
> RESPONSE: And I'm a Black Democrat graduate of
> Berkeley IN THE LATE 1960'S!
>
> Besides SamSam, PhinKiss, Mia1, geez, I'm leaving
> this country to a bunch of wimps and woosies!
Can't do that Mia1. He believes that segregation at lunch counters should still be legal, Ron Paul, that is.
Yeah, SamSam, my career is the same as his in some respect substituting Purdue and Berkely for Occidental and Columbia but hey I was at that little Unitarian law school some 18 years BEFORE HIM. So he's following me.
LOL see Berkeley that's where your wrong, only passive minded people think that way, usually brought on by a soft upbringing.
Its not to late to change I mean your more than welcomed at the awsomeness table, you just got to shed this whole mature attitude, and have hot sex with fat chicks!!!
Sorry, berk. I don't put you in the category of wimps, etc.
Your post was
yeah, the whole "proper muslem burial" thing kind of bugs me too. Part of me thinks they should give him the kind of buriel al quieda gives their victims (I think Daniel Perl's head was found in a ditch by the side of the road). But part of me thinks this is smart, take the high road which is what this country is all about. Why give the "arab street" something stupid to bitch about, just get rid of his body and be done with this guy forever.
You were proposing a rational solution, not crying out from fear.
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Oh well he has a point a man should be able to serve who he wants in his own place, if that man is ignorant and blind to reality then don't go there.
That sucks, however you should understand I think what he is comming from is basic right's which are being stripped away every year.
Yeah some of his thinking might be offensive, but being free is offensive so you have to take in the good with the bad.
I think he would make waunders for our country, don't worry there is no way in heck will he be able to segregate this country.
I just want somone in office who at least has the balls to go against the grain, and try to fix this large overpowering government, even if I don't agree with all the man's views.
You should do the same, infact if him knowing that black people would side with him, bet he himself would change his tune.
Just saying can't get any worse than what its at.
I will look more into it.
My friend I know is a huge Ron Paul supporter, and no he isnt a racist dude either.
Ron Paul I don't think is a racist. He's just a libertarian, so he thinks people should be able to do whatever they want without gov't interference. If that means someone wants to only serve whites in their bar and bar anyone else from going in, that's their right. Whether you think that's the kind of country we want to live in is another story.
I agree with him to a point (drugs, prostitutes, gay marriage, etc, all OK by me!). I draw the line at state sanctioned discrimination.
Also from what I gather he is opposed to all overseas military intervenions, so if he was in office bin ladin would still be sitting pretty in Crapistan.
Im not mad actually I pretty much knew this was going to happen.
They wont release photo's mean's there is no photos lol there full of poopies and this was a total political move.
Can't at least show me a picture then I aint believing jack and and .... and then I am calling you a lier and I will never believe anything Obamabag has to say again!
Hey but don't let my believe's stop you guy's from sucking it all in, just keep eating the grass fellas eat the grass.