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Re: Might be my last post here for a while........
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: September 25, 2017 10:01AM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Treasure, I have already made clear my sentiments
> of my (disgust is too small a word) for those who
> profess to protest on behalf of Black people and
> show it by denigrating the very flag a symbol of
> the federal government from freeing us from
> slavery to the Civil Rights acts of the 60's was
> most responsible for helping us.
>
> But there will always be idiots.
>
> And there will always be ordinary people (like
> owners) who don't recognize on what side of the
> issue they should be.
>
> How many people have you heard express my
> sentiments? Terribly few.
>
> That should go to prove to you that most people
> are idiots.
>
> So Treasure, if you are going to withdraw from
> this game because you find that there are idiots,
> even associated with the Dolphins, then you are
> going to end up having to find yourself in a cave
> in the Artic circle.
>
> So just shrug your shoulders and remember that me,
> a Black kid from Fort Sill, Oklahoma in the 60's
> is just as offended as you but you can't let them
> run you off because that is precisely what they
> would rejoice in if they knew it. Not only do
> they bully the NFL owners but eliminate their fans
> as well. Don't let them win.

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Kudos, Chryen

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Re: Might be my last post here for a while........
Posted by: Grimey13 ()
Date: September 25, 2017 10:23AM

Do you feel the same way about the players Socal or just the posters here since some may disagree with you? Yes this forum is about football and guess what the biggest story in football is right now?


It is okay for a football team to shove their political stance in your face but not an actual person you communicate with. I will keep that in mind.

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Re: Might be my last post here for a while........
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: September 25, 2017 11:06AM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> But it started with Kaepernick on the sidelines
> last year basically "flipping off" the National
> Anthem by looking totally disinterested, not
> standing, not looking, and not paying attention.
> If the protests has evolved into a John Carlos
> type of thing where they give the Black Power
> salute to the Flag, then that's a different thing.
> But I don't think so. It is the same flip off of
> the flag.

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Chryen, what pisses me off more than anything is when Kap first gave the reason(s) he was doing what he was doing....HE MADE NO SENSE. It wasn't until later (after getting blasted by everyone) that he came out with a different explanation of what he was doing. Then he wears those "pig" socks? The guy doesn't know what the hell he is doing and the rest of these NFL clowns (Miami Dolphins included) follow his lead. And the Commish is proud of his people? Give me a break!

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Re: Might be my last post here for a while........
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: September 25, 2017 11:07AM

Crowder52 Wrote:
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> I get it, I don't like any disrespect to he anthem
> or flag.. But IMO, locking arms is better then
> kneeling during the anthem..

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So Crowder, what you're saying is locking arms is better than kneeling? <chuckle>

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Re: Might be my last post here for a while........
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: September 25, 2017 11:10AM

toko34 Wrote:
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> Someone wrote today- take a knee protests are
> about police violence, they are not about the
> military or the Constitution. I think that's
> pretty accurate. I feel the players acted today
> as sort of a "screw you" to 45 and what he's been
> saying these protests are not against the flag or
> the USA. These players are looking for unity and
> a country joined...much like the G.S. Warriors are
> united. I wouldn't take it personally Treasure.

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toko; not against the flag or the USA? You're kidding, right?

At what point during the game do they protest? Correct, when our Anthem is played and the flag is unfurled. How does that relate to protesting the police?

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Re: Might be my last post here for a while........
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: September 25, 2017 11:15AM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> Its not about donald trump and what he
> says.......He is not going to be our president
> forever...
>
>
> Donald trump talks trash but he states the truth.
>
>
> When you kneel to the national anthem you are
> disrespecting this country and our flag.
>
> That cannot be forgiven.
>
> NFL players are selfish and very immature.

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You are 100 percent correct, Sam.

I am amazed how the NFL players, and others, took what the President said to be racist, i.e., against blacks. He is dividing us? Give me a break. This has been going on for quite a while, especially during the Obama years.

I don't want to hear he is dividing us.

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Re: Might be my last post here for a while........
Date: September 25, 2017 11:35AM

Grimey13 Wrote:
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> 30 minutes before the Miami game yesterday I saw a
> Twitter feed about certain Miami players wearing
> the ISTANDFORKAP shirt what what the F ever it
> said. Well I didn't watch one minute of the game
> and so glad they got stomped. Actually I did't
> watch one second of any football yesterday and it
> actually didn't bother me.
>
> I know we have varying opinions here and this is
> the one I stand to make. Locking arms I think is
> awesome. Kneeling has no place. I am a veteran,
> my father is a retired veteran, my grandfather is
> a veteran (although he was navy...haha). Please
> find another way to protest your disgust.
>
> Sorry to see you go TCPF but I feel ya man. I
> actually had a cookout yesterday and spent time
> with family and friends. Best Sunday I have had
> in (during football season) 2 years.


So True Brother! I did a little power washing needed from the mayhem Irma left and then I had a nice conversation with my Dad. He told me about the Brooklyn Dodgers growing up and how they broke his heart when they left Brooklyn for LA. There was no internet, NO TV back then. That Team was literally all he had as a kid and he found out the hard way that Pro sports is a business. They really couldn't give a shit about you as a fan.

We had a good long hard discussion sitting in my Dolphins seats I rescued from the stadium do over. This league is set up to protect 32 Multi Billionaires. Do you realize that the NFL is still a NON PROFIT TAX exempt empire? They pay 0% taxes. They employ these multi millionaires who judge us and think they are better. Yeah I know they show up every once and a while with a hammer and tap a nail and give a home away , or do actually raise money for some outstanding charities, But its really all part of a huge empire directed make rich men Richer and make them feel better about themselves.

Conversations with my oldest didn't go as well. He's a millennial thought that sitting out the game was a dumb idea. He said the Dolphins dont care if you watch or not and called it pointless.

I said they told me the same thing about my vote last year. Thank god many other people didn't skip that either. I can only be responsible for ME. I think I did the right thing. I know I did. Others like SoCal can make their silly comments, call us silly but if enough start to sit out I hope to make them feel it. However you feel, WE THE PEOPLE are the boss.

To be honest until last years election I thought it was a no win battle. You cant beat government. Its too big. But its been exposed. And I do actually feel empowered like never before.

GOD BLESS AMERICA. God bless those that help make it great. I might not watch next week we'll see.....But To many good people here to chat with to stay away.

GO MIAMI!!!

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Re: Might be my last post here for a while........
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: September 25, 2017 12:16PM


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Re: Might be my last post here for a while........
Date: September 25, 2017 12:57PM

Yep. When 32 Billionaires get together......they can influence almost anything. Just another reason I dont get why you hate the current President my friends. Hes trying to fix all that. confused smiley Hes far from perfect......but man look what he is up against. I love him.

GO MIAMI!!!

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Re: Might be my last post here for a while........
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: September 25, 2017 01:47PM


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Re: Might be my last post here for a while........
Date: September 25, 2017 02:51PM

Relax Bro. Takes money to fight money.

Yes Dad loaned him 1 Million. He PAID HIM BACK WITH INTEREST. Then he turned $1 Million into 10 billion. I know many Billionaires that cant turn 1 Billion into 10 Billion.

Hes 70. he should be chillin making $650 milion a year in interest alone. He choose to help the American people. Veterans getting screwed. A Health care system that is cost the middle class everything and about to implode. Cops getting executed. And a Supreme Court making law instead of judging by it.

Like him or hate him......hes a True rebel. Going up against everything . Both parties and the media. Thankfully the People see it and love him.

You have lived in Liberal land too long buddy. Come see the rest of the country.

GO MIAMI!!!

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Re: Might be my last post here for a while........
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: September 25, 2017 03:14PM


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Re: Might be my last post here for a while........
Posted by: JC ()
Date: September 25, 2017 03:17PM

Can be extra careful to keep this borderline-off-topic subject , on-topic please.

It's tricky in this thread, I know. And so far we've been having a civil discussion. Thank you all for that.

I think the issue at hand is the protests on the football field, etc. Not so much the president personally. ALTHOUGH I am aware that he weighed in directly on the subject recently, and then doubled-down on his controversial stance. So I understand why the president could be considered by some to be a valid part of the conversation.

I defer to Colonel for further interpretation, as he is certainly more qualified.

Bottom line is, let's continue to be cool headed about this, think of each other as we discuss, and preserve our own unity here.

Thanks guys,
JC

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Re: Might be my last post here for a while........
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: September 25, 2017 05:36PM

I will comply.

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Re: Might be my last post here for a while........
Posted by: OCphin ()
Date: September 25, 2017 06:47PM

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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Hes far
> from perfect......but man look what he is up
> against. I love him.


That figures...

Get gone already, and go back to staring at FOX fake-news, to reinforce your uninformed opinions, you idiot.

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Re: Might be my last post here for a while........
Date: September 25, 2017 07:04PM

OCphin Wrote:
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> TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> Hes far
> > from perfect......but man look what he is up
> > against. I love him.
>
>
> That figures...
>
> Get gone already, and go back to staring at FOX
> fake-news, to reinforce your uninformed opinions,
> you idiot.

Mom says hello........remember to take your vitamins. smiling smiley

GO MIAMI!!!

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Re: Might be my last post here for a while........
Date: September 25, 2017 07:05PM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> I will comply.


Absolutely. thumbs up

GO MIAMI!!!

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Re: Might be my last post here for a while........
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: September 25, 2017 08:17PM

I love it when you play the dozens, Treasure.

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Re: Might be my last post here for a while........
Posted by: Grimey13 ()
Date: September 26, 2017 02:32AM

OCphin???? Like Treasure I do look at Fox news but I also look at Yahoo, NewsWEAK, Huff post, all those other liberal sites and they inform me quite well with the idiocy they spew...Just spend some time ready the comment sections. Pretty entertaining.

We are suppose to keep these forum clean and without bashing one another. So far it has been till you have come out and spewed your hate. Please respect the forum and the people who actually enjoy speaking their mind.

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Re: Might be my last post here for a while........
Date: September 26, 2017 06:55AM


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Re: Might be my last post here for a while........
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: September 26, 2017 09:35AM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Treasure wrote:
>
> We had a good long hard discussion sitting in my
> Dolphins seats I rescued from the stadium do over.
> This league is set up to protect 32 Multi
> Billionaires. Do you realize that the NFL is still
> a NON PROFIT TAX exempt empire? They pay 0% taxes.
> They employ these multi millionaires who judge us
> and think they are better. Yeah I know they show
> up every once and a while with a hammer and tap a
> nail and give a home away , or do actually raise
> money for some outstanding charities, But its
> really all part of a huge empire directed make
> rich men Richer and make them feel better about
> themselves.
>
> Question 1: "Rescued"???? How did you "rescue"
> the seats???. LOL.
>
> Question 2: The NFL is a monopoly. The
> government is supposed to only grant monopolies to
> entities like transportation companies like street
> buses and trains, on one hand, or to utilities
> which need that protection and in which
> competition would be a confusing and bad thing.
>
> So if the NFL is a monopoly....how can a monopoly
> turn around and grant a monopoly itself?????
>
> Yet I am forced to have DirecTV because they have
> a monopoly on the Sunday Ticket and the only way I
> can see the Dolphins every Sunday is to be forced
> to subscribe to DirecTV year round.
>
> So our monopoly laws don't mean crap.

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And you know what's crappy about us watching Sunday Ticket?...the Fins are NOT on this Sunday. I don't understand why not, as it is still a Sunday morn game (6:30 Pacific).

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Re: Might be my last post here for a while........
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: September 26, 2017 09:39AM


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Date: September 26, 2017 09:56AM

captkoi Wrote:
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>
> **************************************************
> *****
>
> AND...they conveniently forget that the biggest
> problem is blacks killing blacks. Send the whole
> NFL to Chicago, since they feel their people are
> oppressed. Take a knee in the heart of Chicago.
> Start there and maybe things will change for the
> better.


True but one thing I try to do as a Police officer is practice Empathy. I get why many young minorities hate Police. They grow only having negative interactions with them. I get that. 100%. I'm even willing to accept it , but you have very educated owners and coaches that do nothing to educate these young Millionaires.

Its a problem and why the cycle continues in these devastated urban areas. For the first time we have someone in charge trying to make changes , who actually is in touch with middle America but politics and egos and money wont allow change. Its scary times if this is the way the votes of Millions to elect real change is treated , or the best of times if maybe, maybe all of this is necessary growing pains and real good will eventually come out of it all.

I'm optimistic because our future really depends on this. The Miami Dolphins mean nothing . I see it now. Its great to see just here on this Forum , so many different people all feel basically the same. Good People make up America. Its the people who represent us that suck like Madonna trying to get a vote.

GO MIAMI!!!

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Re: Might be my last post here for a while........
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: September 26, 2017 10:28AM


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Date: September 26, 2017 12:15PM

I dont pretend to know all the ins and outs of minorities and have all the answers. I grew up in an urban environment in NYC but I respected Police and they respected me. No doubt Police are not perfect. The System isn't. The Government isn't. But Football is not the place to discuss it. Just does not belong.

As far as the new person in charge.....Lets agree to disagree, But Can I ask a favor? Can we give him a chance before we tear him down? Guy didnt even take office and he was accused of the most stupid shit known to man. I'm attacked for even voting for him. Thats not the way America is supposed to work . Its disgraceful. Think my way or I will beat you. I will lie and try to disgrace you. I will do what it takes to get my way no matter what. Thats wrong Chyrene. We voted. We won. We deserve a say in this country as well.

GO MIAMI!!!

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Re: Might be my last post here for a while........
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: September 26, 2017 12:32PM

Well, there's the Russia probe but I'll see if anything gets better but I won't hold my breath. (Kinda wanna keep living.)

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Re: Might be my last post here for a while........
Posted by: socalphin ()
Date: September 26, 2017 03:00PM

...but lost the popular vote by over 3 mil, proved the electoral college is a "complete disaster", as quoted by your boy, and all while committing treason by conspiring with the Russians to sway an election.

Congratulations!!

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Re: Might be my last post here for a while........
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: September 26, 2017 04:33PM

But on the subject of money, Treasure. Give a guy one single dollar and tell him to use that dollar alone to turn it into $1,000 (one thousand dollars) and if he separates that dollar from his other money and tries to turn it into $1,000, he will probably fail.

However give him a million and a lifetime and he probably could turn it into a Billion (which is a thousand times a million)...maybe 50% chance he would....or maybe only a 10% chance he would.

Point being, the more you have, the more you are likely to be able to make.

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Re: Might be my last post here for a while........
Posted by: Grimey13 ()
Date: September 27, 2017 02:32AM

So a team with 500 yards of offense gets beat by a team who only got 250 yards of offense...Which team won? Should the 500 yards of offense team be given the win???

If it wasn't for NY and CA do you really think Clinton would have had much of a chance. Look at the counties compared to the entire country.

The Electoral College is there to protect against this granted that was not its original intent but that is the reason it is staying.

So please come up with some other excuse why you lost. Borrow some from Hillary her self...She has plenty to give. Did you know that my wife only voted for Trump because I beat her and told her to do it or else. Well that is what Hillary is saying anyways.

Oh and on the Russia thing...Lets please wait it out and see if anything ever comes out of it. The excuses are starting to pile up and they will fall and bury you one day.

California has corrupted you my friend.

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Re: Might be my last post here for a while........
Posted by: toko34 ()
Date: September 27, 2017 05:41AM


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