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Re: Wildcard: Dolphins v. Steelers--game day thread
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: January 08, 2017 10:15AM

Officially game over fellas...

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Re: Wildcard: Dolphins v. Steelers--game day thread
Posted by: SouthFlPhinFan ()
Date: January 08, 2017 10:19AM

Well Looks like that Pick was the end... Still was a better year than I expected, They have a bunch of things to fix to get better, mostly on Defense.. Looks like Vance Joseph maybe gone, not sure why with the performance of this D, but all in all was a pleasant surprise with this team this year.. My only hope left this year is for someone to knock of the Pats... Again its Wait till next year...

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Re: Wildcard: Dolphins v. Steelers--game day thread
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: January 08, 2017 10:22AM

Agreed, we did much better this year than I thought...happy with that, but, man it still aggravates me when we play flat, undisciplined and like crap.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/08/2017 10:24AM by Ken.

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Re: Wildcard: Dolphins v. Steelers--game day thread
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: January 08, 2017 10:30AM

Ken Wrote:
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> ChyrenB Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I gotta confess. That's on Matt. Even more
> than
> > not being the deer in the headlights....you
> gotta
> > make ball security no. 1 even over throwing the
> > ball in the cheap seats.
>
>
> No, that was on Albert for not blocking the
> outside guy.


Just got back. response; No, that's on Moore. If the D guy breaks through, sacks AND THEN you fumble, it's on the blocker.

IF YOU ARE RUNNING WITH THE BALL AND SOMEONE COMES UP FROM BEHIND AND POKES THE BALL OUT OF THE BACK OF YOUR HAND...IT'S ON YOU!!!!!

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Re: Wildcard: Dolphins v. Steelers--game day thread
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: January 08, 2017 10:34AM

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> JC Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Last time I checked........Tannehill was a QB?
>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Hmm... wait a sec. let me look it up.
> >
> > Says here he's a receiv--OH wait you're right
> he's
> > a QB. How about that?
> >
> > I don't know why you posted that but I still
> read
> > samsam's post as, we'd be losing no matter who
> was
> > Quarterback today. Regardless of which QB
> samsam
> > or anyone prefers (I'm a Tannehill guy,
> myself).
> >
> > So go ahead and post it in huge letters and make
> a
> > pop quiz on which position everyone plays if
> you
> > want.
>
>
> Hmm lets see.....why did I post that? Let me
> think.
>
> A) becuase Sam Sam has been such a great postive
> supporter of the Phins the last few years
> cool smiley Becuase Sam Sam has always made such brillant ,
> insightful posts on Tannehill
> C) becuase he is really not an intelligent person
> and I've had enough of his bullshit?
>
> Hows that for a Pop quiz Jack?
>
> Anyone here made that same comment I would have
> taken if differently.
>
> And YES it would be a differnt game today with a
> healthy Tannehill. Letters big enough.
>
> And unlike Sam Sam I would state exactly why, but
> I know see I'm wasting my time. Not a dumb comment
> and negativity, but a concise well thought reason
> why Tannehill would have made the defense and the
> phins better.
>
> Its half time. we are only down by 14. 5 yrs we
> have seen Tannehill take hit after hit. 4 games
> and Moore is done already.
>
> Thats not a knock on Moore. But it further proof
> what a great athlete Tannehill is has been for
> Miami. Large enough font for you?
>
> I'll leave it at that. You pissed off JC? You
> leave this forum for days at a time. You even read
> the crap and the negativity spewed here daily and
> you want to get smart with me after spending one
> day?
>
> Tannehill will win a championship here in Miami.
>
> Some of you dont deserve it.


If tannehill was playing we would have a slight better chance of winning this game....Not much more though...>Tannehill and matt moore are more or less the same caliber QB. And thats a compliment on tannehill. Tannehill in a superbowl team would be just a backup qb.


Tannehill does not have the ability to take this team to the superbowl. Unless of course The defense throws a shoutout....And the running back runs for 200 yards.

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Re: Wildcard: Dolphins v. Steelers--game day thread
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: January 08, 2017 10:36AM

No, if Tannehill had been playing, the rollouts you have seen from Moore would have been sacks of Tannehill while still in the pocket looking downfield for a prospective receiver.

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Re: Wildcard: Dolphins v. Steelers--game day thread
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: January 08, 2017 10:37AM

Maybe Jordan Phillips is at least thinking of his paychecks.

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Re: Wildcard: Dolphins v. Steelers--game day thread
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: January 08, 2017 10:38AM

WOW....first Steeler punt comes in the 4th quarter.

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Re: Wildcard: Dolphins v. Steelers--game day thread
Posted by: KB ()
Date: January 08, 2017 10:45AM

-The defense laid down. That looked like last year. There or four hits to get a tackle. 10 yard cushions on receivers. NO pressure. Just a POOR performance.

-Offense cane out flat, the sort of stabilized, then became a turnover machine.

-Moore looked pretty poor in 2nd half but you can't look at his play since having to start and say he's been a big disappointment or fared that much ch worse overall than Thill. I for one was rather surprised. He and the whole team are rattled now and the Steelers are just teeing off...feeding frenzy

-By today's standards there were a lot of questionable hits in that game. When Moore got plowed...that guy led with the crown, I don't like these skirt/on-QB rules overall but if that's the rule, that should have been a PF. Had it been Brady, he'd have been ejected... he got whacked late at least two other times...no call.

-As for the year, pleasantly surprised by Ajayi, Tannehill or Receiving corp and Moore. In truth I never dreamed we'd even have a playoff game. So, see y'all next year..Cheers.

-PS I HATE Phil Simms!



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Re: Wildcard: Dolphins v. Steelers--game day thread
Posted by: colonel ()
Date: January 08, 2017 10:46AM

This is a team loss.

We can only look to the future while being content with the fact that our rookie HC did a credible job with coaching the team and for the team winning 10 games during the regular season.

While this is yet another embarrassment for the team, progress is "in progress." Next year--we'll get another chance to improve everything and that's what it's all about.

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Re: Wildcard: Dolphins v. Steelers--game day thread
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: January 08, 2017 10:49AM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> No, if Tannehill had been playing, the rollouts
> you have seen from Moore would have been sacks of
> Tannehill while still in the pocket looking
> downfield for a prospective receiver.


RE: Come on Chyren..this is just complete BS. RT's sacks this season were cut in half. I suppose RT himself deserves zero credit for that.

Also if RT was playing the rollouts we've seen from Moore would have been more effective...we would have also picked up the 4th down that Moore failed to get on his scramble.

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Re: Wildcard: Dolphins v. Steelers--game day thread
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: January 08, 2017 10:51AM

Ken, if Tanny had been playing,....there would have been no rollouts.

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Re: Wildcard: Dolphins v. Steelers--game day thread
Posted by: JC ()
Date: January 08, 2017 10:51AM


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Re: Wildcard: Dolphins v. Steelers--game day thread
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: January 08, 2017 10:54AM

Okay Ken....are you watching the network broadcast of the game/???

I have seen the announcers praise the play of Matt Moore on about 7 occasions during the game.

I can't remember them doing so for Tanny.


In fact, I have yet to hear them praise Ben Roth for a "Hey, that was a great pass!" yet I have heard it three times in this game for Moore.

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Re: Wildcard: Dolphins v. Steelers--game day thread
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: January 08, 2017 10:55AM

Hey, but I have blamed him too. I blamed him for that negligent poke out of the back of his hand fumble.

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Re: Wildcard: Dolphins v. Steelers--game day thread
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: January 08, 2017 10:58AM

Ken Wrote:
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> Exactly, Gray whiffed his block...Moore tried to
> run and got caught in the crowd.
>
> No one is doing anything positive, well, good,
> motivating, disciplined, or inspiring today.
>
> Our execution has been very, very poor...just like
> last week. Gase has a ton of work to do during the
> teams upcoming 7 1/2 month vacation from football.


Why I put that one on Moore was walking up to the line of scrimmage you could see the safety was blitzing. He could have audibled a run to the right.

We are a team returning to the playoffs for the first time in years getting schooled by a veteran playoff team. Im still proud of what this years team has accomplished.

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Re: Wildcard: Dolphins v. Steelers--game day thread
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: January 08, 2017 10:59AM

Chyren, now you are just making stuff up...Rollouts are what RT does better than anything...he runs well (Much, Much, better than Moore) he throws better when running (Again, much better than Moore) and is more accurate when running as well.

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Re: Wildcard: Dolphins v. Steelers--game day thread
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: January 08, 2017 11:02AM

I don't think with 6 minutes to go and down by 18 you on side kick because if you fail, as we did, you are taking 3 minutes off the clock and will still be down by 18.

Better to kick them back to their 20 and make them play conservatively.

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Re: Wildcard: Dolphins v. Steelers--game day thread
Posted by: KB ()
Date: January 08, 2017 11:03AM

Well, until today Moore had been sacked 1 time behind the same IL that got blamed for all Thills sacks... Moore lacks some things Thill has...but the opposite also true. To me neither one is a top tier QB. But both have pleasantly surprised me this year given the situation.

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Re: Wildcard: Dolphins v. Steelers--game day thread
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: January 08, 2017 11:07AM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Okay Ken....are you watching the network broadcast
> of the game/???
>
> I have seen the announcers praise the play of Matt
> Moore on about 7 occasions during the game.

RE: Sure am. Phill Simms is an idiot...Moore has not played well today. He has made some plays and he he played well at time today but overall he's been mediocre.
>
> I can't remember them doing so for Tanny.

RE: Really, then you have not been playing attention.
>
>
> In fact, I have yet to hear them praise Ben Roth
> for a "Hey, that was a great pass!" yet I have
> heard it three times in this game for Moore.

RE: Again you have not been paying attention.

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Re: Wildcard: Dolphins v. Steelers--game day thread
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: January 08, 2017 11:17AM

Wow, Moore sacked on back to back plays standing there in the pocket looking for a receiver to come open...Hmmm. I wonder why he didn't just throw the ball away? Man he must not have good instincts, can't feel the pressure, needs to run, or slide, or step up...

Seriously, it happens, to everybody.

The team struggled today and played like crap...Moore included.

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Re: Wildcard: Dolphins v. Steelers--game day thread
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: January 08, 2017 11:31AM

Difference is when Moore is sacked, so would the other 31 QBs would have. Great pass rush.
However, when Tanny is sacked, it is because he has held the ball farlonger than any of the other 31 would have.

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Re: Wildcard: Dolphins v. Steelers--game day thread
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: January 08, 2017 11:35AM

Never mind that RT has the fourth quickest snap to pass time of any QB in the league.

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Re: Wildcard: Dolphins v. Steelers--game day thread
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: January 08, 2017 11:40AM

Oooooh......from PFF????

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Re: Wildcard: Dolphins v. Steelers--game day thread
Posted by: colonel ()
Date: January 08, 2017 11:43AM


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Re: Wildcard: Dolphins v. Steelers--game day thread
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: January 08, 2017 11:43AM

Chyren: Not even worth additional comment after that...



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Re: Wildcard: Dolphins v. Steelers--game day thread
Posted by: jsm08 ()
Date: January 08, 2017 12:17PM

Lot of pissing and moaning going on. This team exceeded everyone's expectations this year.

We were playing with a mash unit on D today. Even so I would have liked to have seen us be more aggressive but it is what it is. We got schooled by a playoff veteran team that's healthier than they've been in years.

Where I think this team fails is their high priced players aren't elite. They need too much help to earn their lofty salaries.

I'd explore trading Suh if it's possible and use that money to upgrade 2-3 other positions. He got handled one on one all day long. You just can't have that when you're making 19mm/yr.

We missed our safties today. Our backups are good for small stints but got exposed today.

All in all we found a HC that got us to the playoffs with a bad roster. Hopefully with improvements this offseason we become a perennial playoff contender.

This offseason I'd focus on LBs and replacing Suh and his huge contract. In the draft I'd go LB/DE the first 2 picks. I would take a QB in the 3rd or 4th round to groom. After that maybe an olineman and more D.

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Re: Wildcard: Dolphins v. Steelers--game day thread
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: January 08, 2017 12:27PM

LB, CB, OL and TE are where we should be looking in the draft.

Mostly our LB'ers get beat in all phases...

CB starters and quality depth is a priority...

Quality OL starters and depth is a major priority.

A big play TE that actually shows up in games is a major need.

Beyond that; Grant, Carroo, Tunsil, Parker and Drake have to each step up in a major way next season.

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Re: Wildcard: Dolphins v. Steelers--game day thread
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Date: January 08, 2017 01:09PM


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