JoeFootball Wrote:
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> The sad part is that Dion Jordan has already made
> 11.7 million more than OV. That's just messed up.

Wow, really. That is disgusting!

You would think it be smart to catch a player like OV earlier in his contract (once he's proven to be a legit player) and up the ante for him with the benefit of extended terms.

It seems like everyone is managing the Cap situation with very short lead times. Trying the milk the "cheap" years as much as possible while ignoring the impending FA fallout.

We've certainly did that with Miller and OV.

And when you out in the market like we did for Suh and pay insane $$$ -- I would think some players notice that.

My opinion. Of course.

BNF.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/04/2016 05:55AM by BigNastyFish.

Well BNF, I don't think that's possible except for 1st round picks.

I believe it was part of the new slotted pay scale for draft picks. The teams have 5th year options with their first rounders and don't with subsequent rounders.

I could be completely wrong but it's something like that.

OV = 3.86 mil career earnings
DJ = 15.5 mil career earnings (would have been more if not for susp.)
Shelby = 4 mil career earnings

Shelby had the benefit of going undrafted in the same year and only getting a 3 year deal. Miami had to designate a RFA tag on him at 2.4 mil last year. This guy was suspended by the team in 2014.

You're right. It is sickening. Gonja boy sitting at his fat crib getting stoned while OV works his ass off and is man of the year nominee. Shelby is getting drunk, feeling up women at the club and getting busted for trespassing and resisting arrest without violence.

The more I think about it the more I want to see OV get paid!

I don't believe there's anything in place that stops teams from offering "new and improved" contracts after 1-2 seasons, is there?

I was unaware Shelby has had off field issues...

OV and Miller have been very productive, done everything right (as far as staying clean etc.) hard workers and solid team guys.

That's what I see...

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> Rookie contracts for draft choices can’t be
> renegotiated or changed in any way until the
> regular season finale of the contract’s third
> year. Undrafted free agents must wait until their
> conclusion of the regular season in their second
> season to amend a contract


wow. news to me.

Thanks.

Vernon is as good as gone. He's already said there will be no hometown discount and he is going to get 45-60 million from another team...just too rich for us right now. Wake will be back because he's open to taking a pay cut provided he can still play.

We are going to have to make a choice...Miller or Vernon. Miller wins because he's cheaper. Almost no way we keep them both.

Jahri Evans G just cut by the Saints. 32 and perennial pro bowler.

Get him on the cheap for a couple years.

He WAS a great player but now he is a declining player who cannot pass protect to save his life. Not sure how that helps us.

These are the type of players (and contracts) that have killed us in the past. FA's should be on the upswing, not the other way around (unless you are making a late summer addition as an injury replacement).

Especially for a position that has been our Achilles heel. It's time to finally fix that spot. There are too many other FA linemen available who can pass protect. This should be a priority, not a used band-aid.

Good point. It was the first cut I saw and I jumped on it.

I'd make a horrible gm.

jlyell13 Wrote:
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> Sean Smith Was terrible. Stone hands
> I think we go D Ramsey Mack Hargreaves,Lawson
>
> then Nick martin
>
> If we take Stanley we need to take Su'a Cravens
>
> Le Raven Clark Sebastian Tretola, Landon Turner
> OL or Deiondre hall CB
> 4th kevin Hogan QB Stanford


Did you see where Sua Cravens is a cousin of our TE, Jordan Cameron and Manti Teo?

Starters needed on defensive lineup:

SDE
DT Suh
DT
WDE

SLB Misi
MLB
WLB Jenkins

CB Grimes
FS
SS Jones
CB

Holy crap!

Let the rebuilding begin.

One could argue Misi doesn't belong in the starting line up

and Grimey

Roster projection based on FA rumors....

QB Ryan Tannehil
RB Matt Forte
TE Jordan Cameron/Sims
SL Jarvis Landry
SE DeVante Parker
FL Kenny Stills

LT Branden Albert
LG
C Mike Pouncey
RG JR Sweezy/Billy Turner
RT JaWuan James

SDE William Hayes
DT Ndamukong Suh
DT Earl Mitchell/Jordan Phillips
WDE Mario Williams/Dion Jordan

SLB Koa Misi
MLB Kiko Alonso
WLB Jelaney Jenkins

CB1
CB2 Byron Maxwell
CBN Bobby McCain
FS George Iloka
SS Reshad Jones



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We lost out on Alex Boone and there have been multiple teams inquire about Sweezy (for whatever reason).

O-line market is HOT. Hope we can still get one...or two or three. Gotta get a swing tackle!

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> We lost out on Alex Boone and there have been
> multiple teams inquire about Sweezy (for whatever
> reason).
>
> O-line market is HOT. Hope we can still get
> one...or two or three. Gotta get a swing tackle!

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I haven't heard or seen anything indicating that Miami has even talked to any OL.

better pep up your twitter feed.

Right now Im wondering where the front office is going with this thing. Not bringing in a solid guard in free agency right now makes me think they are going after Whitehair. I would have liked the Bushrod move 3 years ago but now? Turner imo has never looked better than Thomas and needs to be kicked back out to tackle.

We still have money in 3 clicking injury time bombs. Cameron, Albert and Wake. Cameron would have been cut and Wake would have taken a pay cut. We cannot do much w/ Albert but make sure we improve our deph as we did w/ by adding Bushrod and Young (who did have some good games w/ JAX last season).

Just have to see how this hand gets played. 8-8 9-7 then we are on the right track. The repetitive nightmare in my head right now is Tanne stringing Parker out in game 1 of 2016 and he gets creamed and is out for an extended period. Somebody say P Lynch in round 1?
My heads really spinning on the Phins right now.

As I previously mentioned I cannot believe that every guard you insert in our O sucks. Tanne was getting killed when Incog was here. I still think its a matter of coaching and our center. As terrible as these guys are Miller can thank them for his new contract. They did some things right in the run O. They lack consistency.

Looks like the team still has identical holes to last year. guard, lb and corner...but at least the safety spot looks ok

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> Our new roster....
>
> QB Ryan Tannehil
> RB CJ Anderson
> TE Jordan Cameron/Sims
> SL Jarvis Landry
> SE DeVante Parker
> FL Kenny Stills
>
> LT Branden Albert
> LG Jermon Bushrod
> C Mike Pouncey
> RG Billy Turner
> RT JaWuan James
>
> SDE Cameron Wake
> DT Ndamukong Suh
> DT Earl Mitchell/Jordan Phillips
> WDE Mario Williams/Dion Jordan
>
> SLB Koa Misi
> MLB Kiko Alonso
> WLB Jelaney Jenkins
>
> CB3 Byron Maxwell
> CB2 Jamar Taylor/Tony Lippett
> CBN Bobby McCain
> FS Isa Abdul-Quddus
> SS Reshad Jones


1-15 here we come.


And we'd be lucky to win the 1 game.....just like when camarillo ran away with the victory against the ravens.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/11/2016 07:04AM by samsam3738.

Im not been positive to start a season ever again...


Ive done it too many times only to come crashing down like a plane.

How do our cap numbers look right now. Anybody, JoeF?

Cap Space (w/Top 51 & Projected Draft Pool) $16,212,388

Dead space: (total of 9.8M)

Brent Grimes $3,000,000
Philip Wheeler $2,800,000
Greg Jennings $1,500,000
Brice McCain $1,000,000