By that rationale, are you saying Trent Dilfer was a better QB than Marino?

is this related to my post above

mizzou15 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> "He is no better than Gerald McCoy. "
>
> Suh is better than McCoy.
>
> Suh's team was in the playoffs last year Watt's
> stayed home.


So by that logic Andy Dalton and Carson Palmer are better QB's than drew brees?

Its not logic its a factual statement.

If someone asked me your question and especially the one regarding Dilfer vs Marino my honest answer would be "how long have you been stupid".

Suh took his team to the playoffs...

Looks like watts talent wasnt enough to take the texans to the promise land.

I hope we sign suh.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/04/2015 09:12AM by samsam3738.

mizzou15 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> is this related to my post above


About as much as the fact that Watt didn't make the playoffs

mizzou15 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Its not logic its a factual statement.
>
> If someone asked me your question and especially
> the one regarding Dilfer vs Marino my honest
> answer would be "how long have you been stupid".


So what was the point of introducing that "factual statement" to this particular discussion if it wasn't to reinforce your stance that Suh is better than Watt and McCoy?


Bacon is yummy.

samsam3738 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Suh took his team to the playoffs...
>
> Looks like watts talent wasnt enough to take the
> texans to the promise land.
>
So you are going great with the stance that if you exchanged Suh for Watt Houston makes the playoffs and Detroit watches on tv?

Interesting premise... Most would say DET made it because they have Matt Stafford and Houston didn't because they have Fitzpatrick and mallett.

> I hope we sign suh.

If Watt and Suh were both free agents and you could sign one which do you want?




Broccoli gives me gas.

THE Truth Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> samsam3738 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Suh took his team to the playoffs...
> >
> > Looks like watts talent wasnt enough to take
> the
> > texans to the promise land.
> >
> So you are going great with the stance that if you
> exchanged Suh for Watt Houston makes the playoffs
> and Detroit watches on tv?
>
> Interesting premise... Most would say DET made it
> because they have Matt Stafford and Houston didn't
> because they have Fitzpatrick and mallett.
>
> > I hope we sign suh.
>
> If Watt and Suh were both free agents and you
> could sign one which do you want?
>
>
>
>
> Broccoli gives me gas.


1.Need to stop run...

2.Our LBs stink...

3.we have tweener DTs.

4. We have cameron wake.


Answer. Gime suh.

Is that peptobismol enough for you truth?

samsam3738 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> THE Truth Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > samsam3738 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Suh took his team to the playoffs...
> > >
> > > Looks like watts talent wasnt enough to take
> > the
> > > texans to the promise land.
> > >
> > So you are going great with the stance that if
> you
> > exchanged Suh for Watt Houston makes the
> playoffs
> > and Detroit watches on tv?
> >
> > Interesting premise... Most would say DET made
> it
> > because they have Matt Stafford and Houston
> didn't
> > because they have Fitzpatrick and mallett.
> >
> > > I hope we sign suh.
> >
> > If Watt and Suh were both free agents and you
> > could sign one which do you want?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Broccoli gives me gas.
>
>
> 1.Need to stop run...
>
> 2.Our LBs stink...
>
> 3.we have tweener DTs.
>
> 4. We have cameron wake.
>
>
> Answer. Gime suh.


I disagree, but fair enough. Oh and wake is gone after this year.



Puppies are cute and cats chase mice.

Why would you say wake is gone after this year?

Not sure if he is a free agent after this year.

My post had nothing to do w/ an argument of whose better McCoy vs Suh vs Watts. I have no opinion in that argument.

My post was in reference to my view that the Dolphins should sign Suh.

Suh over Watt....LOL

The guy that had 20.5 sacks TWICE in the last 3 years and 51.5 over the last 3 years? We are talking about the reigning NFL defensive MVP and two time MVP, right? Not the guard in San Diego, Chris Watt?

JoeFootball Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Suh over Watt....LOL



If watt was a free agent maybe i have other thoughts..

Gotta stick with what we can get...Plus we have good pass rushers ends already. Our DTs were on the decline last year.

samsam3738 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Why would you say wake is gone after this year?
>
> Not sure if he is a free agent after this year.


He'll be closer to 35 than 34 when the 2016 season starts and he'll be on the books for 10m a difference we free up 8.5m if we cut him.

How many 35 year old de's in the league making 10m this year?

I don't know who some of you guys (or women) are but methinks some of you are toothless retired old men who have nothing better to do than look for arguments all day.

There is no argument here. Watts is not available to us. Suh is. I think we should sign Suh. This has nothing to do with Watts.

btw Suh's team made it to the playoffs Watts did not in 2014. 100% fact.

wow that's just how I see it. Although they are not smiling.

I like Suh as well, I don't think anyone doesn't like Suh as a member of their team.. The question is, at what price... I don't have a solid answer on that one... What price is too much for you guys? 3 times the guaranteed money as JJ Watt got paid, definitely seems to fit into that too much category, but I am not a value expert. Nor privileged to how they plan on paying for it and filling the rest of the roster...

For example look what the Heat(Big 3) were able to do, 3 guys took a majority of the salary and everyone else just came along for the ride at a cheaper price to play with that caliber team... So the plan is really what matter most, on whether or not I am buying it or selling it..

-----------------------------------------------------------------
All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.
Nietzsche

mizzou15 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I don't know who some of you guys (or women) are
> but methinks some of you are toothless retired old
> men who have nothing better to do than look for
> arguments all day.
>
> There is no argument here. Watts is not available
> to us. Suh is. I think we should sign Suh. This
> has nothing to do with Watts.


The irony is priceless.

We needs chrenB over here.

Where is he?

Chren will write you an argument like a pack of library encyclopedias.

mizzou15 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------

>
> There is no argument here. Watts is not available
> to us.

THAT is 100% fact. Which is why nobody was arguing that we should sign Watt.


>Suh is. I think we should sign Suh.

Heck of a player. How much you want to pay him?


>This
> has nothing to do with Watts.
>

Nope. Nothing at all. Which makes why you made your "factual statement" so much of a head scratcher.


> btw Suh's team made it to the playoffs Watts did
> not in 2014. 100% fact.


And Ryan Tannehill's team had a better record in 2014 than Matt Ryans team.

"Suh's team made it to the playoffs Watts did "

That statement is a fact I just don't see why head scratching is neccessary to see that.

OK I would pay 16-17 mil for Suh.

OK ladies you know who you are woo hoo and chisel away at that one.

and Sam don't wish for Chryen he just might show up.

mizzou15 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> and Sam don't wish for Chryen he just might show
> up.


LOL.

Can you try and get through just one thread without having to result to insulting other people on this board rather then dealing with the topic at hand? It really isn't that difficult... Or should we all just dropped down to your level and let everything breakdown to insults...... I am going to guess, you know who you are...

-----------------------------------------------------------------
All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.
Nietzsche

Dude relax maybe I should not get upset when people take a statement that I posted and add there own misguided crap to it just to argue and debate but that to me does not make sense.

Sorry if there is any toothless old guys here that I insulted. That is the only post that I can interpret as insulting. So I hope you feel better.