I hope its hot and sunny sunday...

Wear the white uniforms.....

Thats a huge advantage for us...Green bay is ussually cold.

Hope its not like today here in miami. Its rainy and kind of cool.

samsam so you are saying we should win this game correct? with the better team we have?

I like the post with the list of players starting from that last game.

I hope we win every game. Never said we should win this game.

but we have a better team according to you.

it would be nice to look at our lineup that game compared to this one and theirs.... and determine who should win.

I said we have a better lineup today than the phins lineup someone posted from a few years back...Wake up.

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> Last time Aaron Rodgers played Miami was in 2010.
> Miami won 23-20
>
> 18/33/313/1 td/1 int 54% comp rate for A-Rod
>
> This was our starting lineup....
>
> Chad Henne QB
Tannehill is much better

> Ronnie Brown RB
Moreno is faster and better.....Ronnie was good though


> Brian Hartline WR
Same

> Brandon Marshall WR
A drop ball machine......

> Anthony Fasano TE
Clay when healthy is way better.

> Jake Long LT
Brandon albert is the picture of health and better so far.

> Richie Incognito LG
Daryn Colledge is a man......more or less the same.


> Joe Berger C
Burger is a scrub...sattelle is much better and so is pouncey



> Pat McQuistan RG
A scrub....Whoever we got now is better


> Vernon Carey RT
wasnt too bad borderline scrub......but we are much much better with the rookie RT


Defense

> Randy Starks RE
same a beast

> Tony McDaniel NT
Wasnt bad..>was injured..


> Karlos Dansby ILB
Better with karlos but missi does a good job


> Channing Crowder ILB
Channing did well at times...inconsistent as hell and talk to much $HIT.


> Cameron Wake WLB
Same a beast

> Vontae Davis LCB
Never liked him got beat consistently...grims is 100 times better.


> Benny Sapp CB
Scrub the player we got from houston is doing pretty well today.


> Jason Allen RCB
Scrub for Sabtan ....ddelmas is a tackling maching and iam afraid for his health


> Yeremiah Bell SS
Good before...play declined...retired.....we got rashad jones back rashad is much better..


> Chris Clemons FS
Inconsistent scrub who got beat too much we are better today.

Brandon field..
same one of best in game

Kicker...
Id say same if sturgis stays healthy we are ok here.



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colonel Wrote:
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> Our Defense needs to play at the highest level.
> Man to man our D must out perform their offensive
> players. Offensively we must execute better and
> score 28 points minimum. If we can, I predict a
> 28 to 20 win.

GB has averaged 26.8 for the season BUT they have gotten it together over the last two weeks and have averaged 40 ppg!

IMO, We have to win the time of possession by a large margin. Meaning hold GB to under 26 minutes as well as win the turnover battle. At the very least, we just need NOT to turn the ball over.

GB averages 25:54 in T.O.P.
Miami averages 29:44.

Chren

1. Ronnie brown was good but nowhere as good as moreno....He was a slowish LB.

2. Brandon marshall dropped everything in sight. He stunk while he was here.

3. no way in hell fasano is better than clay when healthy.

4. Jake long is not better that the current LT we have now.. Plus he was an injured mess.

5.No way vernon carey is better than the rookie RT we have now.

6. Crowder was all talk but didnt make any gamechanging plays. He is no better than the guys we have now.

7. Vontae davis got beat over and over and nowhere better than grimes

8. Chris clemmons got beat and was inconsistent...


Sorry buddy but thats how it is.

Brandon marshall out of all those is doing good today....But he didnt play any better than wallace while he was here...

Dont you remember all those drops...?

I would had swore he did it on purpose at times and wanted out of this team so he can get together with his loverboy Qb from the bears.

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> Chren
>
> 1. Ronnie brown was good but nowhere as good as
> moreno....He was a slowish LB.

Yeah, I'd agree but take away Knowshon, who is injured now and he's better than Daniel Thomas and/or Lamar Miller.

I guess I had forgotten Knowshon when I bolded Ronnie Brown


>
> 2. Brandon marshall dropped everything in sight.
> He stunk while he was here.

He did not drop everything but he did have some crucial drops as I said but again no way that we now have a wide receiver better than him.

>
> 3. no way in hell fasano is better than clay when
> healthy.

Flat out disagree.

>
> 4. Jake long is not better that the current LT we
> have now.. Plus he was an injured mess.

Dude, Jake Long WAS A PERENNIAL ALL-PRO, you just seem to be talking about how people are RIGHT NOW and not as they were when they were on our roster.

That's what we're talking about.

Under your argument, Tannehill is better than Dan Marino because Dan Marino is an old man now.

Come on.

>
> 5.No way vernon carey is better than the rookie RT
> we have now.

Disagree.


>
> 6. Crowder was all talk but didnt make any
> gamechanging plays. He is no better than the guys
> we have now.

Disagree.
>
> 7. Vontae davis got beat over and over and nowhere
> better than grimes

Both players are still playing. Although Grimes is a very good player, he is not as good as Davis is now or when Davis was on this team.


>
> 8. Chris clemmons got beat and was
> inconsistent...

Disagree.
>
>
> Sorry buddy but thats how it is.

Not the way I see it.

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> >
> > 7. Vontae davis got beat over and over and
> nowhere
> > better than grimes
>
> Both players are still playing. Although Grimes
> is a very good player, he is not as good as Davis
> is now or when Davis was on this team.


How can you say vontae davis is even in the same ball park as grimes.

Grimes made the pro bowl last year...

Not even close..

And when healthy clay showed he is 10 times better than fasano.

Fasano was good but not nearlty as good as clay...

BTW I rather have brandon albert today than jake long. Jake long has had injury problems for the last 3 years or so.

Chren just because you sympathize with vontae because of the way ireland let him go doesnt mean he is better than grimes.

Still remember vontae getting beat over and over.

Grimes is definetely in another league.

the key to winning this game is running it 30+ times.

Grimes was a little better than Vontae in 2013 but has not been as good this year.

Marshall was a league leader in drops the years he was here but 2,228/9 td's over those two years is better than Wallace and Hartline over the same period.

How do you compare Vernon Carey's career to 4 games of James career? That's not fair. Carey started 2 games as a rookie. James already has that number beat.

GB's on a hot streak and I think we'll basically have to play our best to beat them unless they come out flat. If Rodgers is on, it'll be tough to beat them even if we do play our best. (I know...no news to anyone with that statement). To even have a chance, our defense is going to have to play lights out for 60 minutes.

That said, I'd jump on the jsm 30+ runs bandwagon with a couple of twists.
1) Tannehill has to be efficient (read: accurate & timely) when he is called upon to throw. Probably need 70%+ accuracy and 8.0+ YPA on his 20-25 throws.
2) Tannehill has to be a part of the 30+ runs. It's imperative that he makes their D account for him as a runner (OAK game set this up nicely)...and that our passing game benefits from his ability to throw on the run.
3) Tannehill & the OL avoid down & distance holes...no sacks when he could have scrambled or thrown it away.
4) no offensive turnovers...ok, maybe one just to keep it real.

We do this, and we probably score 28+ which - combined with our defense, even against GB most Sundays - gives us a pretty decent chance.

Match-ups to exploit....

Any of our DT's against the Packers C, Corey Linsley. He is the weak link in pass protection.

Cam Wake vs Brian Bulaga. He is good but hasn't faced a DE like Wake.

Our right side vs Datone Jones in the run game. OR Clay Mathews in the run game. Both on the same side.

If Pouncey starts at RG then we can really exploit this. Any way you slice it, no one on the front 7 for GB can matchup with Pouncey whether that be as a center or guard.

The best player on the line for GB is RDE Mike Daniels and he will face Colledge as Branden Albert takes on Julius Peppers.

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> Marshall was a league leader in drops the years he
> was here but 2,228/9 td's over those two years is
> better than Wallace and Hartline over the same
> period.


Marshall cost us a couple of games with those drops. He was a quitter while he was here. He wanted to go back and play with the current bears QB.


It almost seemed he dropped some on purpose. Not saying he did....But it looked like that at times...

Also his 15 yard penalty tantrums didn't help either.

I rather have wallace and hartline. At least they are pros and go about their bussiness like men.

Chren you can agree with that right?

I remember you weren't so happy with his drops.

Neither was I.

This is going to be a good test of coaching ability for Philbin. He has the advantage of knowing the Packers, on both sides of the ball.

They know nothing of us other than 4 games worth of tape. Still lots of guess work on their part.

JP SHOULD be able to put together a good game plan and win over his former team. If not, he needs to go!

So are you saying, SamSam, that if we win or come close, your question is why we haven't done so before now?

You said if we did well it would mean that Philbin is NOT coaching material. I don't understand.

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> So are you saying, SamSam, that if we win or come
> close, your question is why we haven't done so
> before now?
>
> You said if we did well it would mean that Philbin
> is NOT coaching material. I don't understand.


I mean if philbin doesnt make a game out of this game, he definetely isnt coaching material...

Because he used to coach for the packers and knows his habits more or less.

Good point Sam. I almost want to see them lose so he gets canned.

Will have to wait until Jan. though...........

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

If we don't play press coverage/bump and run against the GB receivers, we are toast.

Our corners are not big but they are physical. I will be wanting to hit Philbin with a Coyle if they don't do this.

Rush 4, press coverage on defense with a few blitzes mixed in and run the ball all day on offense and throw in some short passes.

To steal from BNF......Flippers crossed!

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

One of the biggest thing that will decide this here game.

Put pressure of the packer qb like we did brady..

and with just 4 men.

If we can manage to pressure rodgers with just 4 rushers we have a chance if not, we are toast.