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Re: Knowshon Moreno
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: June 19, 2014 12:23PM

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> Another red flag if anyone is counting on KM to
> perform as well as he did in 2013....
>
> Knowshon Moreno only faced opposing teams base
> defense 10% of the time in 2013. That means the
> other 90%, he was running against nickle defenses
> or dime defenses.
>
> In other words his numbers may be a tad inflated.

Could be, but Nickle Defenses get played what...65% of the time?

I've never been counting on Moreno to be anything more than a 3rd down back.

If he gives us good blitz pick up and an outlet receiver in obvious passing situations then he's a worthwhile investment in my eyes.

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Re: Knowshon Moreno
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: June 20, 2014 11:09AM

Still, that's an additional 25% that not many, if any other RB's had vs softer defenses.

But you are right, he will help in pass pro and as a receiver on 3rd down....unless the line really is much better and Miller capitalizes on the opportunity.

Miller was targeted 30 times last year and hauled in 26 passes in the vanilla Sherman offense.

Moreno was targeted 72 times and caught 60 passes for 548/3.

3rd year could be a charm for Miller. Motivated, new offense, better line....He was not as bad in pass pro as most people would have you believe. He gave up 2 sacks and something like 7 total pressures.

I guess my point was that it's just another "red flag" for Moreno. You show up overweight and end up running 3rd team, there's a good chance your snaps will be limited in real camp and a real chance you "fall out of favor" with Philbin.

Now on the other side of the coin, you have a younger player, who is not thrilled that a "starter" was brought in and now he's more motivated to keep his job. From his perspective, he is suffering the consequences for a bad rushing game when in fact it's more likely the fault of a terrible line. He showed up in shape.

He also sees a guy getting paid more in one year that he will make in 4 years. (3m for 1 year compared to 2.6m for 4 years)

Miller will make 650k this year and has to be wanted that extension for the real money.

Say that plays out...and now you're highest paid RB is 2nd or 3rd string??? So we ended up paying 3 mil (only 1.25 guaranteed) for, what ended up being, a motivational tool (pun intended).

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Re: Knowshon Moreno
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: June 20, 2014 11:17AM

Oh...and now he may need knee surgery. That could explain the weight issue but not a great sign for Miami.

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Re: Knowshon Moreno
Date: June 23, 2014 04:32AM

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> Oh...and now he may need knee surgery. That could
> explain the weight issue but not a great sign for
> Miami.


Grrrrrrrr! Id Ronnie Brown still available? better then nothing. We should have learned a serious lesson last year going into the season with no backups........

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Knowshon Moreno
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: June 23, 2014 06:16AM

Well, in all fairness, it is just arthroscopic surgery if he needs it. I would pass on Ronnie. 32 years old, 45 carries for 157 yards last year, many injuries, about 500 yards over last 3 years. It may be time to retire.

I'm not against bringing in veteran (over 30) players. Just not at RB.

The good part is that we can get the younger guys more carries. I am curious to take a look at Orleans Darkwa (what a name!) and Damien Williams.

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Re: Knowshon Moreno
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: June 23, 2014 06:22AM


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Re: Knowshon Moreno
Date: June 23, 2014 07:05AM

Can Dion Jordan Play Running back!? grinning smiley

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Knowshon Moreno
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: June 23, 2014 09:35AM

No but he was a WR in college as a freshman!

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Re: Knowshon Moreno
Date: June 23, 2014 09:39AM

Can he throw? Wild cat lives!

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Knowshon Moreno
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: June 23, 2014 10:17AM


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Re: Knowshon Moreno
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: June 23, 2014 10:19AM


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Re: Knowshon Moreno
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: June 23, 2014 01:25PM

Reports are that Moreno will have knee surgery.

Out 4-5 weeks.

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