Man.....why didn't Shula ever trade for a Killer Running back back when Marino was in his prime?

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> Man.....why didn't Shula ever trade for a Killer
> Running back back when Marino was in his prime?


Traded for Chuck Muncie in 1984.

After that didn't work, after losing Overstreet in the car crash and Aundra Franklin to a knee injury, he probably figured we were cursed.

Didn't he trade for Bobby Humphrey?

THE Truth Wrote:
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> TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> > Man.....why didn't Shula ever trade for a
> Killer
> > Running back back when Marino was in his prime?
>
>
> Traded for Chuck Muncie in 1984.
>
> After that didn't work, after losing Overstreet in
> the car crash and Aundra Franklin to a knee
> injury, he probably figured we were cursed.


Turns out he was right.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

Yea... Poor Danny Boy never had a legit running game nor a legit D.

Totally weird how his "best year" was his 2nd.

After that -- it seemed The Don was hanging around to get the most wins and could never put the pieces together to make one last SB push...

I wouldn't mind having Dan Marino in his 2nd year now!

Thill could be his back-up.

BigNastyFish Wrote:
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>
> I wouldn't mind having Dan Marino in his 2nd year
> now!
>
> Thill could be his back-up.
>
>


Oh man, that would be sweet.

We could have traded T-hill for Trent Richardson...

THE Truth Wrote:
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> Exactly eesti. The old Browns front office
> screwed up taking him that high.

RESPONSE: Which WAS MY ONLY POINT. EITHER THEY SCREWED UP THEN OR THEY ARE SCREWING UP NOW. Truth's original post made no distinction between the new and old regime at Cleveland. It took a subsequent poster to make that distinction. Frankly, I didn't know there was a change in regimes.

Had Truth posted the above statement in the first place instead of profusely congratulating the Browns for the trade, I and others would not have been head scratching.

The rest of the post below is devoted to Truth's argument that RBs are no longer that relevant in today's NFL.

The new front
> office did a great job getting value for a
> mistake. Indy overpaid for a good young player
> that they don't need and could have replaced in
> next years draft with a 2nd or 3rd round pick
> while keeping that #1 to build an oline to keep
> Luck on his feet.
>
>
> In today's day and age, taking ANY RB that high is
> a mistake. Because RB's are disposable in the NFL
> these days and nobody wants to pay them $10m a
> year after their rookie deal is up. Why use a top
> pick on a guy you aren't going to pay top money
> too in his 2nd contract?
>
> Its bad business.
>
> Its one thing if RB is the last piece of your
> puzzle and you are picking in the last 1/3rd of
> the 1st round. But taking a RB in the first 20
> or so picks of the draft is a wasted pick. You
> can get a back who is just as good, or better, in
> the 2nd or 3rd round of just about every draft.
>
> Look at Adrian Peterson. He's the best back on
> the planet by a mile. Hasn't won much without a
> QB. Then look at the teams that have won Super
> Bowls the last 10 years...almost all have
> exceptional QB's and none have highly drafted RB's
> carrying their offense.
>
> Look at it this way (using your scenario)...if you
> are a GM and you have two star players from a
> draft and $12 Mill to spend in cap space to
> re-sign one of them:
>
> Are you going to give that $12m to Ryan Tannehill
> and draft a RB next year to replace Doug Martin?
> Or are you going to give Martin $10M a year and
> go bargain shopping for your new QB?
>
> Anyone who would go with the RB option is living
> in the 1970's and doesn't understand the way
> today's game is set up.


This argument ignores that since the 70's there have been great running backs like Ricky Williams, Reggie Bush, Walter Payton, and the list goes on and on.

Certainly we are in a DOWN PERIOD in Running Backs.

There have been down periods in quarterbacks as well between Griese and Unitas and that crew and Marino and Elway and that age and then another down period betweeen them and now Luck, RGIII, Tanny, Wilson, Kaepernick.

Everything is cyclical. But to declare the running back NO LONGER RELEVANT IN THE NFL...... What nonsense. What Truth sees as a PERMANENT CHANGE is just the fact that like those down periods for quarterbacks there are no great running backs in the NFL but as I said, these things are cyclical.

Boy I think Truth or PhinsFans2 must be some 27 year old who thinks he knows and has seen it all.

ChairmenB, I don't believe the N F L is going to revert to ground & pound (i.e., RB driven) now that they've produced a coitusback driven peep show including "chuck & duck" "grab the pig" and "shake your tail." Tho that last schematic may be a tad off in the historical scent.

I think it's ALL in the evolution to an eventual flag football co-ed league with lots of balls and really nice tight ends.

My opinion. Of course.

BNF.

I don't think they will ever go back to "ground and pound" either, the Zonk, heir to Jim Brown was really the last great one with a few others since Larry.

However, as with Walter and Ricky, there will be other different carnations of the running back that will have different styles that will maintain the viability and relevance of that position, if LaMAH could be used properly he could be the MVP of the league but the present management believes him to be Larry Csonka reincarnated and are DETERMINED TO FORCE HIM INTO THAT ROLE.

I don't think he ever will either because his entire tenure will be overseen by Phumlin, who will try to use him as if he were Jim Brown.

BNF Wrote: I think it's ALL in the evolution to an eventual flag football co-ed league with lots of balls and really nice tight ends.


Definetely agree. And heres prove to back up your theory:


The queen in New England gets touched with a fingernail and the refs call a 15 yard penalty on the defense.

Another thing is there will be no more tight ends position. That name will not be applied to the position anymore. They will change it to something else.