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          Moore for Moore
Moore for Moore
Posted by: Northeast Fin Fan ()
Date: September 01, 2013 10:03AM

After hearing that the Phins kept only 4 WRs, a lot of writers have speculated that in the next few days they will be scooping up another WR that has been cut. I have another theory.

The Dolphins chances at success this year start and end with the success of the offensive line and Ryan Tannehill. If both the o-Line and Tannehill are successful then this could be a very good year. Matt Moore is a one of the best (if not the best) backup QB in the NFL. That said, I don't believe that we are legitimate contenders if we have to call upon Matt Moore to be our starting QB. He is good, but not that good. I feel pretty confident that Philbin and Ireland know this also. I suspect that if Tannehill get's hurt that they would be just as comfortable going with Devlin as they would be going with Moore.

This leads me to think that Moore could be on the trade block. I don't buy into the notion that we will trade a defensive lineman and weaken ourselves at a position of strength. That is not a luxury that we can afford. But trading Moore? Why not? While Moore is more experienced than Devlin, Devlin may actually have a higher upside. That is a gamble worth taking for a team that is very short in the WR department.

Who might be interested in Moore?
The Jets and Bills are prime candidates, but I don't think we would trade a QB in the division. I think the Raiders are logical candidates, and I think Denarius Moore could be a target in the trade. Denarius Moore is a fantastic talent that struggles with inconsistency; to the point that coaches in Oakland have become very frustrated with him. A change of scenery could do wonders for him. Denarius Moore has the skills to blossom into an elite NFL WR. At the same time, Matt Moore would immediately become the best QB on the Raiders roster. He would make their team better and would keep them in enough games to keep fans interested.

Will it happen? I don't know. Will I be happy if it does? Yup.

Re: Moore for Moore
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: September 01, 2013 10:43AM

They would get a starting Qb and we get a backup WR for a group that is among the strongest of the offense.

We have higher needs at OL and TE so that's a position I would target instead.

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“I'm here" You're welcome!" - Kenny Powers

Re: Moore for Moore
Posted by: Northeast Fin Fan ()
Date: September 01, 2013 10:59AM

The WR corps is dangerously thin. If we lose just one WR, we would be no better off then last year. Even with everyone healthy, we definitely need another guy that can produce.

I don't think I have ever heard of a team going into the season with just 4 WRs.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/01/2013 11:01AM by Northeast Fin Fan.

Re: Moore for Moore
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: September 01, 2013 11:38AM

No and I don't think we will either. I look for a FA signing very soon. McNutt is on the practice squad too so we may have him in case we need him if nobody else signs him to the active 53.

.....................................................................................
“I'm here" You're welcome!" - Kenny Powers

Re: Moore for Moore
Date: September 01, 2013 03:09PM

Um No.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

Re: Moore for Moore
Date: September 01, 2013 03:09PM

Um No.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

Re: Moore for Moore
Posted by: Northeast Fin Fan ()
Date: September 01, 2013 03:20PM

Would we be contenders with Matt Moore at QB? No

Does he have more trade value than any bench player on the team? I think so
Do we desperately need help at other positions? Yes, I think WR is one. I could see o-line also; but I think it would be challenging to get an impact o-lineman in a trade.

Re: Moore for Moore
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: September 01, 2013 03:36PM

whenever we can get rid of moore i think we should but what are we going to get in return a 7th rounder?

Re: Moore for Moore
Date: September 01, 2013 05:09PM

Sorry you don't get rid of your depth at the most important position for a back up at the deepest position. Tanny goes down moore can keep us in the game.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

Re: Moore for Moore
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: September 01, 2013 05:17PM

How about moving Tanny to WR? Ok....nevermind spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

Re: Moore for Moore
Posted by: Northeast Fin Fan ()
Date: September 01, 2013 05:20PM

WR is not our deepest position. We are very shallow at WR.

Re: Moore for Moore
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: September 01, 2013 05:57PM

Uh huh. I don't get your response.

Re: Moore for Moore
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: September 01, 2013 06:19PM

How do you figure Moore has any trade value? Maybe a 6/7 th rounder.

Re: Moore for Moore
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: September 02, 2013 04:50AM

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> Sorry you don't get rid of your depth at the most
> important position for a back up at the deepest
> position. Tanny goes down moore can keep us in
> the game.

If tanny goes down the season is over.........If he goes down we gotta stink the rest of the year and draft higher.

Don't worry one day we will get it right!

PS...Whats moore going to do for us? Win a couple of more games miss the playoffs and draft lower in every round?

Re: Moore for Moore
Posted by: Hooligan2 ()
Date: September 02, 2013 06:15AM

When THill went down last season Moore came in cold off the bench and rallied the team to the BEST COMPLETE GAME OF THE SEASON.
He might not impress in pre-season, he never has but, when called upon, he delivers. The "IT" shows up.
If Tanny goes down in the first game I have no doubts that Moore can lead the team to the play-offs. Let's quit this talk of tanking the season before the season has even begun.

Re: Moore for Moore
Date: September 02, 2013 06:48AM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Sorry you don't get rid of your depth at the
> most
> > important position for a back up at the deepest
> > position. Tanny goes down moore can keep us in
> > the game.
>
> If tanny goes down the season is over.........If
> he goes down we gotta stink the rest of the year
> and draft higher.
>
> Don't worry one day we will get it right!
>
> PS...Whats moore going to do for us? Win a couple
> of more games miss the playoffs and draft lower in
> every round?


That's what they said in 72' when Greasie went down with a broken Leg. Sometimes a QB just needs a few downs, maybe a game off. You don't mess with your most important position. I'm glad to see a coaching staff that FINALLY that recognizes it.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

Re: Moore for Moore
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: September 02, 2013 10:59AM

SamSam has never respected, let alone, liked Moore. I don't know what he has against him.

Moore is a good back up to have but of course if we can get something valuable in a trade, it should be done but, on the other hand, just getting rid of him for lower than a 4th rounder would be foolish because QB is a very critical position and if any position warrants at least three deep, it's QB.

Great Analogy to Griese and Morrall, Treasure. I was biting my nails and me the big Griese Purdue fan was against Shula's decision to bring Bob to start in the SuperBowl.

Re: Moore for Moore
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: September 02, 2013 12:28PM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> SamSam has never respected, let alone, liked
> Moore. I don't know what he has against him.


First of all you continue to say things that aren't true. Don't put words in my mouth that i haven't said. You need to learn how to do that!




Second i respect Matt Moore. Its just that with tannehill we have a chance of been great. Matt Moore is nothing but a backup.


We will never get anywhere with Matt Moore.

Re: Moore for Moore
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: September 02, 2013 12:30PM

Hooligan2 Wrote:
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> When THill went down last season Moore came in
> cold off the bench and rallied the team to the
> BEST COMPLETE GAME OF THE SEASON.
> He might not impress in pre-season, he never has
> but, when called upon, he delivers. The "IT" shows
> up.
> If Tanny goes down in the first game I have no
> doubts that Moore can lead the team to the
> play-offs. Let's quit this talk of tanking the
> season before the season has even begun.


Matt Moore lead us to the playoffs? LOL

If Tanehill goes down the season is over!

Re: Moore for Moore
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: September 02, 2013 12:33PM

I remember some people saying Tim Tebow was going to be a great qb as well.

Re: Moore for Moore
Date: September 02, 2013 12:59PM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> I remember some people saying Tim Tebow was going
> to be a great qb as well.

He took the Broncos to the same place Peyton Manning did last year. Just saying..........The raiders should sign Tbow. Or the Jags.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

Re: Moore for Moore
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: September 02, 2013 01:10PM

Come on TCPF mia1s grandmother could play better qb than TBow. And she wears a cane.

Re: Moore for Moore
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: September 02, 2013 06:32PM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> ChyrenB Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SamSam has never respected, let alone, liked
> > Moore.
> First of all you continue to say things that
> aren't true. Don't put words in my mouth that i
> haven't said. You need to learn how to do that!



Just read your next few posts after this one. Hell, just read what you write next below.

> Second i respect Matt Moore. Its just that with
> tannehill we have a chance of been great. Matt
> Moore is nothing but a back
>
>
> We will never get anywhere with Matt Moore.

Apparently, the Greise Morrall story was lost on you.

Re: Moore for Moore
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: September 02, 2013 06:55PM


Re: Moore for Moore
Date: September 02, 2013 06:56PM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> Come on TCPF mia1s grandmother could play better
> qb than TBow. And she wears a cane.

No one ever gave Tbow a chance. The Broncos were forced to and he almost took them all the way. The Broncos dumped him for a hotter girlfriend and why he went to the Jets and not a Team where he could compete is beyond me. Same with the Pats. He needs to go to a Team where he has a shot. The guy is a proven winner. At the NFL level as well. For you to say he can't play is just grossly ignorant.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

Re: Moore for Moore
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: September 03, 2013 03:53AM

Northeast Fin Fan Wrote:
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> WR is not our deepest position. We are very
> shallow at WR.

I said "strongest". Not deepest.

We are not "deep" at any position except D-line. I just think Moore has more value as an insurance policy than a 3rd, 4th or 5th WR does.

.....................................................................................
“I'm here" You're welcome!" - Kenny Powers

Re: Moore for Moore
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: September 03, 2013 04:07AM

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> samsam3738 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Come on TCPF mia1s grandmother could play
> better
> > qb than TBow. And she wears a cane.
>
> No one ever gave Tbow a chance. The Broncos were
> forced to and he almost took them all the way. The
> Broncos dumped him for a hotter girlfriend and why
> he went to the Jets and not a Team where he could
> compete is beyond me. Same with the Pats. He
> needs to go to a Team where he has a shot. The guy
> is a proven winner. At the NFL level as well. For
> you to say he can't play is just grossly ignorant.


I disagree. When he shows that he can play in the NFL let me know TCPF.

BTW i really like the jets brady quinn signing. He is another Tebow. Another bust.

Re: Moore for Moore
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: September 03, 2013 05:38AM

TCPF wrote: No one ever gave Tbow a chance. The Broncos were forced to and he almost took them all the way.

If he was so good why did they let him go. Ok so they let him go for a 15 year veteran whos almost at the end of his career?

Why didn't they keep him as a backup if he is the next coming of Joe Montana or Dan Marino?

Re: Moore for Moore
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: September 03, 2013 07:02AM

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> samsam3738 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Come on TCPF mia1s grandmother could play
> better
> > qb than TBow. And she wears a cane.
>
> No one ever gave Tbow a chance. The Broncos were
> forced to and he almost took them all the way.

That is a stretch. He won one wildcard game at home in OT THEN GOT CRUSHED in the divisional round on the road. He didn't even "almost " get to the conference championship let alone go all the way.

The
> Broncos dumped him for a hotter girlfriend and why
> he went to the Jets and not a Team where he could
> compete is beyond me. Same with the Pats.

Bud, he sucks. It's not really any more complicated than that.


He
> needs to go to a Team where he has a shot. The guy
> is a proven winner. At the NFL level as well. For
> you to say he can't play is just grossly ignorant.

I have to disagree TCPF. A 45% career completion % is what says he can't play at the NFL level, even as a 3rd stringer.

Re: Moore for Moore
Posted by: dolphin ()
Date: September 03, 2013 11:12AM

Personally I would take Moore over Tannehill. and no way do I trade Moore for an average WR.

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