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Keys to victory against Pats
Posted by: FootballGod ()
Date: October 25, 2015 02:50PM

1) Put Brady on his ass every pass play.
2) LBrs need to play at another level. NE uses the short routes a lot.
3) Score early and often. We are going to need 24+ points to win.
4) DBs need to keep the top on our defense. Brady is going to throw 40+ times.

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Re: Keys to victory against Pats
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: October 25, 2015 04:34PM

The Tom Brady that will be in the Hall of Fame is the Tom Brady that is ALLOWED TO sit back in the pocket and pick out his targets. No other quarterback past or present is as good as he is at it.

The Tom Brady that WAS NOT DRAFTED UNTIL THE SIXTH ROUND OF THE DRAFT is the Tom Brady with pressure constantly in his face and the Tom Brady that is knocked on his butt at least one every quarter.

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Re: Keys to victory against Pats
Date: October 25, 2015 05:41PM

I want him to limp into the HoF Joe Thiesman style.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Keys to victory against Pats
Posted by: 808phan ()
Date: October 25, 2015 08:08PM

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> I want him to limp into the HoF Joe Thiesman
> style.

My same exact thoughts

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Re: Keys to victory against Pats
Posted by: 808phan ()
Date: October 25, 2015 08:12PM

Keys to beating the Pats?

Maybe Dan Campbell should spit like Bill Cowher. Maybe that will start this Thursday.

That plus Tom Brady leaving the field on a stretcher would be priceless.

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Re: Keys to victory against Pats
Posted by: jsm08 ()
Date: October 26, 2015 01:38AM

the key, i believe, is re-routing their wrs at the line. every team is afraid of getting beat deep so they die a slow methodical death.

the pats run wr picks a lot. flatten that guy and get the calls.

being able to pressure brady with our front four.

if we do blitz disguise it or run delayed blitzes. if he sees us crowd the line he'll diagnose it and beat it.

control the ball. keep our nice balance of run and pass. commit to it even if we fall behind early.

I know everyone is saying we only beat the titans and texans but the titans just held the high powered falcons offense to 10 and we had never beaten the texans before. we destroyed 2 teams.

we always play the pats well. if we get out to a big lead again i want to see us keep our foot on the gas and pile it on.

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Re: Keys to victory against Pats
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: October 26, 2015 02:10AM

Jones is having a pro bowl year but now he has to take over as leader of the defensive backfield like Ed Reed used to do for the Ravens. Make sure that every db in the room during film study is paying attention. Make sure that they know their assignments and recognize what the offense is doing. The key to the Cheats is Gronk, Edelmann and Amendola running precise routes. Study, study, study.

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Re: Keys to victory against Pats
Posted by: dgoodhue ()
Date: October 26, 2015 03:24AM

The key for the defense is to cover the short quick passing game and put pressure on Brady. Seemingly every game Miami has had success against Brady was when Jason Taylor and now Cameron Wake was all over QB. The Patriot offensive line is a mess, so it's possible. Dion Lewis was out against the Jets, the Dolphins wouod be fortunately if he missed the Thursday night game as he is another quick elusive reciever at rb.

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Re: Keys to victory against Pats
Posted by: dgoodhue ()
Date: October 26, 2015 03:35AM

IMO this week is our litmus test.

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Re: Keys to victory against Pats
Posted by: jsm08 ()
Date: October 26, 2015 03:50AM

win or lose thursday we need to go 2-1 on this 3 game road trip. coming out of that 5-4 with 5 or our last 7 at home and what could possibly be an actual home field advantage would be huge.

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Re: Keys to victory against Pats
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: October 26, 2015 04:11AM


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Re: Keys to victory against Pats
Date: October 26, 2015 04:21AM

Hopefully with Coyle gone, we will be able to actually defend against the Pats slant routes. Too bad Dion Jordon is a crackhead because we could have used him to shut down gronk. Hopefully Jones is up to the task.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Keys to victory against Pats
Posted by: sickofit ()
Date: October 26, 2015 05:31AM

this game will prove once and for all whether this team is for real.

i won't hold my breath. i have been tricked into believing this team is for real for far too many decades now (I.E., sickofit).

we have all been tricked.

tom brady is playing out of his effing mind. at this rate the dude looks like he won't retire any time soon.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/26/2015 05:34AM by sickofit.

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Re: Keys to victory against Pats
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: October 26, 2015 07:01AM

Yes I agree with the need to have someone effectively cover Gronk as Dion Jordan did in the past.... On a side not I just saw our TE Jordan Cameron by my office getting breakfast, and he was walking very slowly, like he was in some serious pain.... it didnt seem like a limp, more like a back issues or something, he was walking stiff and moving very slow...

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Re: Keys to victory against Pats
Posted by: KB ()
Date: October 26, 2015 12:20PM

Another key is getting the flippin' officials to call their blatant pick routes and holds...AND not make up calls against our DB's to save their heroes bacon. Unless I miss my guess it will be rampant unless we come out and just smack them in the mouth SO HARD right off the bat, even the officials will see the writing on the wall.

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Re: Keys to victory against Pats
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: October 26, 2015 03:12PM

Brady is 38, which means, physically, he's playing on borrowed time. It's just a matter of time until he tears his achilles, or some other injury that tends to hit older players. I anticipate that happening sometime this season. Hope it's against us!

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Re: Keys to victory against Pats
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: October 27, 2015 03:46AM


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Re: Keys to victory against Pats
Posted by: Rgphin ()
Date: October 27, 2015 03:55AM

The key to beating the pats would be to keep pace with them throughout the entire game.


Although they have been struggling lately, they are still the team to beat in the east.

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Re: Keys to victory against Pats
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: October 27, 2015 05:40AM

Rgphin Wrote:
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> The key to beating the pats would be to keep pace
> with them throughout the entire game.
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>
> Although they have been struggling lately, they
> are still the team to beat in the east.


Keeping pace is not the way to go w/ the Pats. Gotta break their serve at times and take and keep the lead. As mentioned play 6 db's, put Grimes on Edelman (I would like to see that), jump routes is the way to go.

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Re: Keys to victory against Pats
Posted by: PhinsUp_88 ()
Date: October 27, 2015 07:32AM

It all starts with putting Brady on his rear end

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Re: Keys to victory against Pats
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: October 27, 2015 07:44AM

Actually IMO, it starts with jamming the WR's so the DL can get to Brady. Nobody is getting close to him if we don't do that. I don't care how great of a pass rusher you are, no one is consistently getting to the QB in under 2.5 seconds on a consistent basis. Brady leads the league in % of passes gone in under 2.5 seconds @ 75.6% of the time.

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Re: Keys to victory against Pats
Posted by: dgoodhue ()
Date: October 27, 2015 08:29AM

Yesterday listening to the radio it seems like no one locally is giving Miami a chance. To my surprise they (fan and radio hosts) are talking about the perfect season. Even some of the more level head local radio hosts are on to the undefeated season. They seem to think the only obstacles are the games @Jets and @Miami when they are resting players.

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Re: Keys to victory against Pats
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: October 27, 2015 12:30PM

Rgphin Wrote:
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> The key to beating the pats would be to keep pace
> with them throughout the entire game.
>
>
> Although they have been struggling lately, they
> are still the team to beat in the east.

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Can't keep pace with them if Miami: has stupid penalties, especially at the worst times; drops passes; DBs allow receivers (esp Gronk) to run free; OL doesn't do their job; poor field position for Miami and good field position for NE.

Asking a lot, but to beat a super team like NE, that's what has to be done.

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Re: Keys to victory against Pats
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: October 27, 2015 07:29PM

Cap, every game I've seen involving the Patsies, whether against the Dolphins or any other team, the Patsies seem to have the refs in their pocket. Every questionable call goes their way. Something else to look for in the game.

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Re: Keys to victory against Pats
Posted by: Damn-U-Kong-93 ()
Date: October 27, 2015 10:41PM

hot smiley

KNick637

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Re: Keys to victory against Pats
Posted by: Hooligan2 ()
Date: October 28, 2015 04:29AM

Keys to victory;

Have the locker room swept for bugs before halftime.
Don't leave any playbooks left laying around unattended.
Bring along an extra set of encrypted communication headgear.
Don't let anybody with video equipment sit in on any practices.

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The Clown Show Continues



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Re: Keys to victory against Pats
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: October 28, 2015 06:14AM

I was thinking the same think Hooligan. thumbs up

If we can continue to get pressure with 4 we can put.....

Grimes on Edelman
McCain on Amendola
Taylor on LaFell
Thomas on Dion Lewis
Jenkins & Reshad Jones on Gronk

That leaves Misi & Aikens the ability to help double in coverage or blitz.

I think we match up pretty well with them although I wonder about Taylor. I would monitor him and if he struggles AGAIN as he did vs Nate Washington, I would replace him with Bowman or the other McCain.

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Re: Keys to victory against Pats
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: October 28, 2015 08:32AM

Very easy.....key to entire game would be to put pressure on brady.


And if the game is close in the 4th quarter we have a chance of success.

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Re: Keys to victory against Pats
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: October 28, 2015 10:45AM

Was just looking at the numbers....

Brady has been sacked 9 times in the last 3 games.

3x by the Jets and they don't rush the passer very well. Twice it by a D-lineman and once by an 3-4 OLB (Pace)

Vs the Colts, once by Dwight Lowery (safety) and once by OLB, Jonathan Newsome (who?)

Vs the Cowboys...

1x Jack Crawford, DE/DT
1x Tyrone Crawford, DT
2x Greg Hardy

Could be a big sack day from Miami.

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Re: Keys to victory against Pats
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: October 28, 2015 10:58AM

They had to shift people in the Oline. because of injuries

Are the pats smart enough to come up with a gameplan where brady gets rid of the ball within 2 seconds?

Theyve done it before....This is where we need to adjust and play close to the receiver...

If we give them a big cushion....its game over.

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