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Is the problem with

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36 votes were received.

The offensive line	18		50%
Tannehill	0		0%
Both	18		50%

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Well, there is so much disagreement about what is causing our poor showing. There are now two camps. Tannehill is the problem or the Offensive line is the problem.

I'll give the first vote and say I think it's BOTH. Just like you can't blame either our offense or defense because they are both underperforming and if the offense stayed out on the field, the defense could rest and if the defense would stop the other team from scoring touchdowns, the offense wouldn't have to score a touchdown on every possession.

A good QB scrambles and makes something out of nothing.

Tannehill does not have that ability.


Its both.

O-Line.

I'm of the opinion RT was doing what his coaches were telling him to do. Stay in the pocket and look for your recievers to come open down field.

I think both based on my observations. The O-line is porous and contributes to the failure of the QB. The QB fails because he is still in journeyman status and is not using his legs to move out of difficult situations. Contributing to that is his lack of situational awareness. Between the two though, the O-line is more culpable because they don't protect the QB or support a running game. I attribute 70% to them for overall offense failure.

Improve the play of the offensive line on run and pass support and Tannehill's play will also improve resulting in a more competitive team.

Ken Wrote:
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> O-Line.
>
> I'm of the opinion RT was doing what his coaches
> were telling him to do. Stay in the pocket and
> look for your recievers to come open down field.


Exactly.

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> A good QB scrambles and makes something out of
> nothing.
>
> Tannehill does not have that ability.
>
>
> Its both.




I think 4000 yds last year with the worst Oline will attest to YOUR 100% Wrong. Hows RGIII doing? The scramblest QB to leave college in a long time.

God. The Kid has made something out of nothing for 4 yrs. Every year. Get him an Oline. JUST once don't wait until the 3rd round to address it. Get the guy some studs and then Judge him fairly.

Until then we all need to STFU.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

When tannehill becomes a decent QB in this league....then and only then we will STFU....


Until then, he needs to prove to the fans he is not going backwards instead of forward.


Wet firecracker.


Prove me wrong..............If not..........Well......>then he and his millions of dollars contract will be run out of town just like the others.

NEXT.

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> When tannehill becomes a decent QB in this
> league....then and only then we will STFU....
>
>
> Until then, he needs to prove to the fans he is
> not going backwards instead of forward.
>
>
> Wet firecracker.
>
>
> Prove me wrong..............If
> not..........Well......>then he and his millions
> of dollars contract will be run out of town just
> like the others.
>
> NEXT.



He has. Every year. He has more yds then any Rookie since Dan Marino. Consistantly gave us 3-4000 yds.Even when he was sacked a record 58 times! Talk about making something out of nothing. Your 100% wet. Your 100% wrong and being completely biased . I don't even know what your basing your opinions on? Wins losses? Does that Mean Dan Marino sucked too? Do you only want to see long passes and pretty football? Sam stop drinking this early in the day, its not good for you.........

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

aND LET THE RECORD SHOW I WAS THE BIGGEST TANNEHILL SUPPORTER.

But when he sits there just waiting to be sacked over and over and over again, it gets to my nerves.....Its tiresome.


He doesnt even try to scramble to the sides and make something happen...Looks clueless.

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> samsam3738 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > When tannehill becomes a decent QB in this
> > league....then and only then we will STFU....
> >
> >
> > Until then, he needs to prove to the fans he is
> > not going backwards instead of forward.
> >
> >
> > Wet firecracker.
> >
> >
> > Prove me wrong..............If
> > not..........Well......>then he and his
> millions
> > of dollars contract will be run out of town
> just
> > like the others.
> >
> > NEXT.
>
>
>
> He has. Every year. He has more yds then any
> Rookie since Dan Marino. Consistantly gave us
> 3-4000 yds.Even when he was sacked a record 58
> times! Talk about making something out of
> nothing. Your 100% wet. Your 100% wrong and being
> completely biased . I don't even know what your
> basing your opinions on? Wins losses? Does that
> Mean Dan Marino sucked too? Do you only want to
> see long passes and pretty football? Sam stop
> drinking this early in the day, its not good for
> you.........


Im sober as hell.....Just tired of this team stinking and been the laughing stock of the NFL every year.

When the F are we going to have a contender?

When we go meet our maker?

Frustrating.

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> >
> Im sober as hell.....Just tired of this team
> stinking and been the laughing stock of the NFL
> every year.
>
> When the F are we going to have a contender?
>
> When we go meet our maker?
>
> Frustrating.



Who isn't upset? Did you just spend $500 to watch the Dolphins get date raped by Rex Ryan and Incognito? But you need to blame the right people. The entire team has not been performing. Everyone except for Maybe Laundry and Grimes. What does that tell you when 50 + athletes completely give up? Dude.....use your common sense. Stop blaming Tannehill for everything. Next your going to agree George Bush was at fault for Hurricanes hitting LA.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

I called it too...at the begginning of year...


I knew the downfall of this team would be the LBs and OL....


We did nothing in free agency or the draft to better these positions and now we are going to miss the playoffs mainly because of it.

Hardly makes you a Guru. Everyone called the Oline the weak point. What no one saw coming was the defense collapse. Especially with all the money throw at it. And how is that Tannehills fault?

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> aND LET THE RECORD SHOW I WAS THE BIGGEST
> TANNEHILL SUPPORTER.
>
> But when he sits there just waiting to be sacked
> over and over and over again, it gets to my
> nerves.....Its tiresome.
>
>
> He doesnt even try to scramble to the sides and
> make something happen...Looks clueless.

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Can't agree with you Sam.

RT does not sit there and wait to be sacked. No one is that stupid.

Granted, the last two games I have shut off the game at the start of the 4th qtr,due to disgust at how the Fins were playing (or not playing) so I cannot comment on the fourth qtr. However...

From what I did see, the majority of the time RT either had no time to look for his receivers or even hand off to his RB, or he just had no space in which to move. Sure, there were some sacks that could have been avoided if he had moved, but that is also on the coaches. They know the line stinks and have constant pressure on RT, so what should happen is have the pocket move, which will give RT the chance to get away from the inside pressure and also will give him a clear vision of the field. That isn't his fault; he is just running the plays he is given. BTW, you mention him scrambling to the sides...he has done that on numerous occasions and has either made plays or...gulp, got sacked (again).

Let's put the majority of the fault on the OL, get the problem fixed, and lets go from there.

Philbin was wedded to the pocket. He saw Tannehill as another Aaron Rodgers from I guess Green Bay where he had history.

Tanny is no Aaron Rodgers, but it wouldn't be so bad to have a Colin Kaepernick.

He still cant throw he deep ball nor make good decisions in the pocket

Kaepenick? He is worse, can't pass. They aint no russell Wilson!

Watching Indy/Houston. Hoyer has 10x the instincts of Tanne. Sure he make mistakes but he'll make something out of nothing. He'll make big plays.

No, he doesn't have the upside but he has more moxie.

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Philbin was wedded to the pocket. He saw
> Tannehill as another Aaron Rodgers from I guess
> Green Bay where he had history.
>
> Tanny is no Aaron Rodgers, but it wouldn't be so
> bad to have a Colin Kaepernick.

This from the guy who said Aaron Rodgers was a scrub...overrated?

It is the Oline.. We cant run the ball, which makes us one dimensional and much harder on the Qb. Because of us being one dimensional there is so much pass rush pressure, that Tannehill has to go with the hot route constantly. Which limits what we are able to do, keeps us from getting into an offensive rhythmn and never lets our true pass plays have time to develop..

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All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.
Nietzsche

Quote: Hardly makes you a Guru. Everyone called the Oline the weak point.


No it doesnt but it does make philbin and company a bunch of idiots for not realizing that was the problem...


That was the problem and tannehill stinking up the joint is also the problem.

Quote: RT does not sit there and wait to be sacked. No one is that stupid.


LOL.....Ive seen him wait in the pocket over and over until he gets sacked......What games were you watching? LOL.


He doesnt even tries to go outside the pocket and make something happen......He locks up on a single receiver...>If that receiver is not open he just waits inside the pocket until is too late....


No instints at all.

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> Quote:What no one saw coming was the defense
> collapse. Especially with all the money throw at
> it.
>
>
>
> I told you i saw it all along......I said the LBs
> were one of the weakest points of this team.....I
> was right...
>
>
> Like you said, nobody else saw it coming. I did.

Nobody? LOL

Like our defensive collapse is all the LB's fault? that's ridiculous. The ENTIRE defense has played like crap. Front 4, LB, DBs...

O-line has to play better, Tannehill has to play better, RB's, WR's....

It's a team effort to suck so bad. No ONE person is to blame.

Joe dont you think if we had 3 starting LBs worth a dam that could stop the run......it wouldnt be a different story on defense?

you meant to tell me we have one of the best defensive lines in football pound for pound......and we cant stop the run?

Our LBs stink buddy.

Not saying the lbs are the entire reason but they are one of the main reasons we are so bad on defense...

We have not one big name LB. NONE. All scrubs.

Last i remember we were playing an undrafted rook LB.......How good can we be?



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samsam3738 Wrote:
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> Joe dont you think if we had 3 starting LBs worth
> a dam that could stop the run......it wouldnt be a
> different story on defense?

NO!

>
> you meant to tell me we have one of the best
> defensive lines in football pound for
> pound......and we cant stop the run?

YES. They are not playing well AT ALL.


> Our LBs stink buddy.

yes...because our entire team stinks.

>
> Not saying the lbs are the entire reason but they
> are one of the main reasons we are so bad on
> defense...

Not.

>
> We have not one big name LB. NONE. All scrubs.

and last year Jenkins was the second coming....

>
> Last i remember we were playing an undrafted rook
> LB.......How good can we be?

We could use a stud MLB but they are not the main reason we stink. D-linemen are not getting off one on one blocks. That means the o-line is on top of our LB's.

Everyone needs to step up.

It's like groundhog day THE EXACT same argument went on from 2008-2011 over our last...um...Quarterback...

16 to 16 at 10-09-15 315 pm.

No clear answer yet.

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> ChyrenB Wrote:
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> > Philbin was wedded to the pocket. He saw
> > Tannehill as another Aaron Rodgers from I guess
> > Green Bay where he had history.
> >
> > Tanny is no Aaron Rodgers, but it wouldn't be
> so
> > bad to have a Colin Kaepernick.
>
> This from the guy who said Aaron Rodgers was a
> scrub...overrated?

RESPONSE: I guess you have researched my posts going back many years OR you are receiving help from the truth.????

But to your point, when I left Purdue after my freshman year I went to.....none other than Berkeley, where I received my degree.

I remained a Purdue fan but my best buddy at Cal (whose children we are mutual Godfathers of) was a virulent Cal fan.

He lives in SF and came down to LA and together we drove to San Diego to watch the Holiday Bowl. What a HORRID PERFORMANCE AARON RODGERS PUT ON!!!!!

That molded my view of Aaron Rodgers in those early years when he got drafted into the NFL! It was not an assessment based on his play AFTER he was drafted.

Response???????

I think joe should be speechless after that one. But i think he will come up with something.