Oh yea, my score will win!

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ChyrenB Wrote:
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> DolfanKing Wrote:
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>
> > Though Ray Lewis is beginning to annoy me. The
> > guy was involved in a murder during his last
> Super
> > Bowl, and now all he talks about is Jesus. But
> it
> > all sounds fake - like a marketing scheme to
> build
> > his legacy and try to make people forget what
> an
> > a-hole he was. So for that, I'll root SF,,,
> but
> > really I don't care except that it will be a
> good
> > game.
>
> RESPONSE: That's a difficult thing to process,
> King.
>
> We do know that after an outside the nightclub
> fight, NOT ONE BUT TWO people were stabbed to
> death. A man and a woman. The woman's blodd DNA
> was found in Lewis' limousine, which was very odd
> because the fight apparently outside on the
> street.
>
> Lewis and two members of his "posse" were charged
> and charges were drastically reduced for Lewis in
> exchange for his cooperation against his buddies
> but the buddies were ultimately acquitted for lack
> of evidence.
>
> On one level you can certainly hold it against
> Lewis.
>
> Brawl between he and his posse and this couple.
> Maybe Lewis or one of his posse were "hitting on"
> the girl and the guy objected.
>
> On the other hand, what...just what....if he is
> truly suffering his own privae hell on Earth now.
>
> When I see him raise his eyes to the skies and
> those tears come out, they seem genuine to me.
>
> What if it dawned upon him what he had
> done....that he was responsible in his previous
> reckless life style for the deaths of two people?
>
> What if he did go to a church and truly found
> God?
>
> What if he was wondering after finding God should
> he quit?
>
> What if he was told that he was in the best place
> for him to do God's work.
>
> One thing is for sure. Win or Lose, he will
> retire.
>
> We shall see how he devotes the rest of his life.
>
> I certainly do not envy a person who sees the
> faces of two dead people in every moment of solace
> he has.
>
> No one who is not a sociopath can lightly regard
> that.
>
> From my 37 years of being a criminal appellate
> prosecutor, I can tell you one thing for sure and
> that is that Ray Lewis is not a sociopath.
>
> A sociopath lacks an understanding of the simple
> thing we were always taught, "Do unto others what
> you would have them do unto you."
>
> I think Lewis is truly now realizing what he has
> "done unto others." And that is why the "Jesus"
> stuff is so prominent in his life now.
>
> But, I could be wrong.

I don't think there is any doubt that Ray Lewis knows what happened. And he was wearing a white suit that night, which "disappeared".

When I listen to Ray Lewis talk about Jesus, what it sounds like to me is that he is talking about himself. Looking at his body language, and tone and such, he really is only interested in drawing attention to himself. And what he is saying really isn't that reflective or insightful, it just seems like a bunch of marketing BS. To me, Ray Lewis is just wrapping himself in religion, so that people in the press overlook or become afraid to defining him by the murder incident.

This is just my interpretation. But I have relatives who are preachers, and very good people, and when they talk about God, they have a much different attitude. They seem genuine.

I never really cared much about Ray Lewis, but always admired his football. But with the way he's been acting lately, it seems as though he is awfully concerned about his legacy.

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ChyrenB Wrote:
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> DolfanKing Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Though Ray Lewis is beginning to annoy me. The
> > guy was involved in a murder during his last
> Super
> > Bowl, and now all he talks about is Jesus. But
> it
> > all sounds fake - like a marketing scheme to
> build
> > his legacy and try to make people forget what
> an
> > a-hole he was. So for that, I'll root SF,,,
> but
> > really I don't care except that it will be a
> good
> > game.
>
> RESPONSE: That's a difficult thing to process,
> King.
>
> We do know that after an outside the nightclub
> fight, NOT ONE BUT TWO people were stabbed to
> death. A man and a woman. The woman's blodd DNA
> was found in Lewis' limousine, which was very odd
> because the fight apparently outside on the
> street.
>
> Lewis and two members of his "posse" were charged
> and charges were drastically reduced for Lewis in
> exchange for his cooperation against his buddies
> but the buddies were ultimately acquitted for lack
> of evidence.
>
> On one level you can certainly hold it against
> Lewis.
>
> Brawl between he and his posse and this couple.
> Maybe Lewis or one of his posse were "hitting on"
> the girl and the guy objected.
>
> On the other hand, what...just what....if he is
> truly suffering his own privae hell on Earth now.
>
> When I see him raise his eyes to the skies and
> those tears come out, they seem genuine to me.
>
> What if it dawned upon him what he had
> done....that he was responsible in his previous
> reckless life style for the deaths of two people?
>
> What if he did go to a church and truly found
> God?
>
> What if he was wondering after finding God should
> he quit?
>
> What if he was told that he was in the best place
> for him to do God's work.
>
> One thing is for sure. Win or Lose, he will
> retire.
>
> We shall see how he devotes the rest of his life.
>
> I certainly do not envy a person who sees the
> faces of two dead people in every moment of solace
> he has.
>
> No one who is not a sociopath can lightly regard
> that.
>
> From my 37 years of being a criminal appellate
> prosecutor, I can tell you one thing for sure and
> that is that Ray Lewis is not a sociopath.
>
> A sociopath lacks an understanding of the simple
> thing we were always taught, "Do unto others what
> you would have them do unto you."
>
> I think Lewis is truly now realizing what he has
> "done unto others." And that is why the "Jesus"
> stuff is so prominent in his life now.
>
> But, I could be wrong.

One more thing. If the Lewis is truly repentent over this incident and has suddenly "found god", then he needs come clean and accept the consequences.

He won't accept those consequences. Instead, he is running around, screaming about Jesus crying about what he "overcame" to get a football game. To me, that is all just a cop out.

The more I think about it, the more I think that Ray Lewis is just a phony. Yea, I'm rooting for the Niners now, just to put a golden shower on Ray Lewis' exit from the NFL.

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You could be right. Like I said.

However, legally there is no way for him now to "accept the consequences" because he has already pled guilty to certain conduct, making a false police report, in the offense.

Not only does double jeopardy prohibit the prosecution from trying him but even if he wanted to be tried, he might not be able to be tried on anything involving that offense.

Now, the only way he could be tried would be if he admitted that he actually did the killings himself as opposed to just lying about it or egging on the killers.

But even egging on the killers was part of the original indictment from what I understand and if it was part of the indictment and he went to court on it, jeopardy had attached.

Then, it might still be a novel question of law.

Lights out in the Super Bowl. About 3 prior predictions that it will be back on in 15 minutes so about 45 minutes.

San Francisco has only shown the real Colin Kaepernick on the very first play. Since then, they have only had him in the pocket. He's not a pocket passer.

Also, Niners have a lousy secondary when a basically B+ QB like Flacco can light them up.

DolfanKing wins the contest, Congratulations.

3 guys go 9-2, very impressive.

I see your reasoning Cheryn but the rules were already set and everyone had the chance to adjust their selection according to those rules.
The way it played out was, as follows:


Actual Score:
Ravens 34- 49ers 31

Predictions:49ers
Dolfanking
31-27 Point differential: 7
Montequi
27-24 Point differential: 14
Cheryn
20-14 Point differential: 31

You can also analyze it by just looking at 49ers point total in which case Dolfanking nailed it perfectly.
Montequi was -4
and you were -11

or even just Raven point totals in which case
DK was -7
Montequi was -10
and you were -20


So bottomline in 3 of 4 cases the winner was DolfanKing.

Congrats to DolfanKing. I did NOT expect such a high scoring game. I have a feeling Goodell planned that power outage just so the 49er's could recharge and make it a closer game.

dolfanking is right on some things afterall...

He is wrong about tannehill and he was right about the superbowl.

I guess nobody is perfect!

Well he wasn't right about the SuperBowl. He was wrong but just not as wrong as us. But Congrats to him.

DolfanKing Wrote:
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> SF 31, Bal 27. It could come down to the final
> play of the game.


LOL sorry my mistake dolfanking was wrong about both the superbowl as well and the real deal tannehill..


Dolfanking are you ever right about anything? GEEZ

It nearly came down to the last play of the game. If San Francisco has pulled it out, I would have gloated. But they didn't. So I'll still gloat because I'm still bitter about 1984 and its nice to see those rat bastards finally lose the big one.

As for ChyrenB's comment, all I got to say is sour grapes. This game went nearly exactly as I predicted... except I kind of thought the 49ers would have shown up before the power outage.

I did take the over, and I did take the Ravens with points last week, so I had a good Super Bowl

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ChyrenB Wrote:
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> DolfanKing Wrote:
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>
> > As for ChyrenB's comment, all I got to say is
> sour
> > grapes. This game went nearly exactly as I
> > predicted... except I kind of thought the 49ers
> > would have shown up before the power outage.
>
> RESPONSE: Why am I guilty of sour grapes? I said
> it was Montequi who won, not me.
>
> And the game did NOT go as you predicted. You had
> the Niners winning by MORE POINTS than anyone but
> me. Montequi had them winning by the least. And
> by all other counts you would have lost. You just
> happen to predict that the scores would be greater
> than we did. Numbers, mere numbers.
>
> But the TRUE TEST of a football prognosticator AS
> OPPOSED TO A GAMBLER (sorry, Toko) is saying who
> will win the game and if all have the same winner,
> then and only then should it be points. If all
> have the loser, then the guy calling the closest
> game should prevail.
>
> If you imagine a straight line. On the left side
> of the line underneath is written 49ers win.
>
> In the middle of the line underneath is written
> "tie"
>
> On the right side of the line underneath is
> written "Ravens win"
>
> If you graph out our picks I was on the left side
> of that line.
>
> You were also on the left side in the middle.
>
> However Montequi, while on the left side of the
> line was closest to the middle which meant he was
> closest to the Ravens win.
>
> I thought we were playing who came close to
> predicting the results, not who came closest to
> predicting the total score.
>
>
>
> >
> > I did take the over, and I did take the Ravens
> > with points last week, so I had a good Super
> Bowl
> >
>
> RESPONSE: After Toko asked us to make any
> changes, so too late to win you any credit on this
> board.

I have no idea what you are babbling about. Toko certainly didn't take my bets.

You are funny sometimes.

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LOL. Im glad you all didn't bet real money. Or else you all would be ripping each other to pieces right about now.

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> LOL. Im glad you all didn't bet real money. Or
> else you all would be ripping each other to pieces
> right about now.


If I could just get my hands on him.


.............just kidding.

LOL

But DK, it's simple. I had the 9ers by 6. You had them by 4. Montequi had them by 3. That makes him closer to a Ravens win.

Toko is a gambler and is an expert on the intricacies of gambling and was of course using his own measure which he is perfectly entitled to do because it was his contest.

I was just saying that from the point of view of who came closest to the final result, Montequi won.

You can call it sour grapes or babbling or whatever but that's it.

This is why I don't gamble with real money anymore

LOL. Better than even SamSam's comment.

Oh i gamble with money...i go to hard rocks and play the machines and play some poker..at the tables...

Them chinnese guys and gals they have doing the dealing at the tables are related to the devil.

So hard to beat them just one hand.

I hate them with a passion.

I dont know if they cheat or do some witchcraft.....But its like they know the card that going to come next.