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Dion Jordan 2015
Posted by: SCPhinsFan ()
Date: April 28, 2015 08:15AM

Jordan suspended for 2015. Sounds like a young man with some real problems.

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Re: Dion Jordan 2015
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: April 28, 2015 08:16AM

What a shame...and a waste.

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Re: Dion Jordan 2015
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: April 28, 2015 08:20AM

Yup.

I can't see him getting another shot here. I just wonder if we can get back some if the guaranteed money and the corresponding cap relief.

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Re: Dion Jordan 2015
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: April 28, 2015 08:28AM

Andrew Abramson ?@AbramsonPBP 1m1 minute ago
Bright side for #Dolphins: Dion Jordan's $5.3 million cap hit in 2015 will be wiped off the books during the year-long suspension

Best thing to happen to us

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Re: Dion Jordan 2015
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: April 28, 2015 08:49AM

Andrew Abramson ?@AbramsonPBP 8m8 minutes ago
Clarification on Dion Jordan money: Base salary ($585k) & roster bonus ($1.7m) likely deducted from cap hit. Signing bonus ($3m) trickier

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Re: Dion Jordan 2015
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: April 28, 2015 09:07AM

I'd be curious to hear if Philbin was for/against drafting Jordan in 2013, anyone remember any reports on that?

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Re: Dion Jordan 2015
Date: April 28, 2015 09:15AM

This is a good thing. Lets finally put him behind us and move on. Sucks we got zero value but such is life.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Dion Jordan 2015
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: April 28, 2015 10:25AM

apparently everyone philbin included told ross, when he asked who they would take if they had #1 overall pick, that they wanted Dion Jordan. So no one escapes blame here, except MT and Hicky who were not there.

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The beatings will continue until morale improves.

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Re: Dion Jordan 2015
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 28, 2015 10:51AM

Just reviewed the draft picks that year. Was a pretty ugly year. Not that many good players for anybody. Not making a point, just an observation. My pick for best player of all those ahead of him was Keenan Allen. Haven't looked below him to see if there were any players below him that have done more than even him.

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Re: Dion Jordan 2015
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: April 28, 2015 11:01AM

Lane Johnson is ballin, Ziggy is doing well, Sheldon Richardson, Star Lotulelei are PB material. Kyle Long is a starting tackle and doing well. Zavier Rhodes, DeAndre Hopkins, Shariff Floyd ballin, Travis Fredrick one of the best centers around...just to name a few. Kiko Alonso, Your boy Kawann Short, LeVeon Bell...You could throw a dart at the draft board and do better than Jordan at this point.

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Re: Dion Jordan 2015
Posted by: colonel ()
Date: April 28, 2015 11:35AM

Jordan is the Dolphins' all time player bust--plain and simple. We need to move on. He's done.

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Re: Dion Jordan 2015
Posted by: cshashaty ()
Date: April 28, 2015 12:26PM

This is Don Reese all over again. Damn drugs! What a waste.

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Re: Dion Jordan 2015
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: April 28, 2015 12:29PM

He might just be the all time worst #3 pick as well...based on his almost complete lack of production.

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Re: Dion Jordan 2015
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 28, 2015 04:07PM

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> Lane Johnson is ballin, Ziggy is doing well,
> Sheldon Richardson, Star Lotulelei are PB
> material. Kyle Long is a starting tackle and doing
> well. Zavier Rhodes, DeAndre Hopkins, Shariff
> Floyd ballin, Travis Fredrick one of the best
> centers around...just to name a few. Kiko Alonso,
> Your boy Kawann Short, LeVeon Bell...You could
> throw a dart at the draft board and do better than
> Jordan at this point.

If your point is that it (2013) was a wonderful draft year....NOT... just look at 2012, the year before

The year before 2012..... and just the first round

Andrew Luck
Robert Griffin III†
Trent Richardson
Matt Kalil†
Justin Blackmon
Ryan Tannehill
Luke Kuechly†
Dontari Poe
Michael Floyd
Quinton Coples
Melvin Ingram
Brandon Weeden
Riley Reiff OT
Dont'a Hightower

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Re: Dion Jordan 2015
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: April 28, 2015 04:11PM

That's your example of a good crop? Meh

Andrew Luck: elite
Robert Griffin III† Dud
Trent Richardson Dud
Matt Kalil† Dud last year
Justin Blackmon Bust
Ryan Tannehill Franchise
Luke Kuechly† elite
Dontari Poe elite
Michael Floyd average
Quinton Coples above average
Melvin Ingram average
Brandon Weeden flop
Riley Reiff OT very good
Dont'a Hightower above average

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Re: Dion Jordan 2015
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 28, 2015 04:23PM

LOL. By your own ratings 3 elites, 2 above average, one very good, two ONLY "average" BUT who JUST happen to be Michael Floyd and Melvin Ingram, one franchise (?), AND one bust, who to you is Justin Blackmon,

and you are calling RGIII, injured on one play, and Trent Richardson absolute duds????

And you say this about this 2012 draft group as compared to the 2013 group you pointed out above?

Don't let your desire to argue overrule your eyesight.

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Re: Dion Jordan 2015
Posted by: Odenn ()
Date: April 29, 2015 02:55AM

Since trading him would have put a serious amount of dead money on the books, I think this is a great situation for the Dolphins to have fall in their lap. Obbviously it would have been great if he would have blossomed and developed into something useful but that wasn't going to happen and we all knew it after last year.

This is great. We clear up a significant amount of cap room, which can now be used in the free agent market to make a good acqusition in a position of need.

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Re: Dion Jordan 2015
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: April 29, 2015 03:48AM


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Re: Dion Jordan 2015
Posted by: toko34 ()
Date: April 29, 2015 04:23AM

The pinhead strikes again. If only we could have cut ties with Mr. Jordan sooner, or better yet turn back the clock and slash the pinhead/fireland mysgnamic duo as should have been done, before they were able to seriously damage this team with their terrible decisions.

I estimate one more year of suffering before the pinhead is dropped.

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Re: Dion Jordan 2015
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 29, 2015 11:02AM

We were comparing the first round of the two drafts, Joe. Despite your PFF worshipping outlook, I'll let the names speak for themselves.

That's the problem with you nerds. You can't look beyond the numbers.

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Re: Dion Jordan 2015
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 29, 2015 11:08AM

And to those who might want to rush to your defense, ........among you Tannehill lovers....pay attention.....Joe would have you judge HIS worth by his numbers....BUT I ASK YOU....how much better would Tannehill be with DECENT BLOCKING and receivers who catch the ball...but the same approach taken by Joe would have you look at his worth in a vacuum without consideration of those points.

That's the problem with stats and stats geeks. Stats don't tell the whole story because stats are based on the play of the whole team and every player's success RELIES on his TEAMMATES doing their job.

Take Drew Brees away from San Diego and put him in New Orleans and look at what happened.

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Re: Dion Jordan 2015
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: April 29, 2015 02:31PM

and you have nothing to back up a lame argument so you resort to name calling. Lame.

Please enlighten everyone how great Trent Richardson's career has been despite the lack of production. lol

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Re: Dion Jordan 2015
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 29, 2015 03:42PM


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Re: Dion Jordan 2015
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: April 29, 2015 03:47PM

I don't remember the 2012 draft only having 14 picks in the 1st round, that's wild

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Re: Dion Jordan 2015
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 29, 2015 04:16PM


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Re: Dion Jordan 2015
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: April 30, 2015 03:43AM


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Re: Dion Jordan 2015
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: April 30, 2015 03:52AM

I'm still scratching my head how anyone that's putting a supposed list of good 2012 draft picks could include the names of Trent Richardson, Brandon Weedon and Justin Blackmon........I mean how couldya?eye rolling smiley

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Re: Dion Jordan 2015
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: April 30, 2015 05:09AM

...and don't forget that Keenan Allen (3rd round) is better than anyone taken before him. Why? because Bob wanted to draft him two years ago....therefore, it was his guy, so he must be the absolute best.

Just don't bring up the fact that he was out-produced by DeAndre Hopkins by 427 yards last year!

or that Sheldon Richardson is a Pro Bowler.
or that Kyle Long is a Pro Bowler
or that LeVeon Bell rushed for 1400 yards and had 900 receiving yards...which is 71 more receiving yards than KA...the wide receiver.

or that Tyrann Mathieu (taken 7 spots ahead) went to a PB.

Whatever you do, don't bring up production. It is a useless reflection of performance and does not tell the whole story!

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Re: Dion Jordan 2015
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: May 22, 2015 07:01AM


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Re: Dion Jordan 2015
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: May 22, 2015 08:30AM

If Im Jordan I would probably want to get away from it all to. This guy as far as I have read had no issues with illegal drugs at Oregon. Joined the phins they told him to 'bulk up'. Which to me translates as get some pills. He did failed a test and most athletes that fail one PED test usually fails another which he did. So now his career is spiraling fast. I wouldn't want to talk to Shelby if he was going too run to the press w/ every liile missed text story.

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