Nice second round pick Ireland!! You want to know why we've sucked for so long it's picks like this

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Yeah does San Fran even have any OL?

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> Nice second round pick Ireland!! You want to know
> why we've sucked for so long it's picks like this


I thought it was because we changed the logo???????????

20 years from now this guy will be a big time corporate lawyer. All sins forgiven and in the past will give the 3 down and out douches a break, Incogs waxing cars and Jerry and Pouncey cleaning offices.

mizzou15 Wrote:
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> 20 years from now this guy will be a big time
> corporate lawyer. All sins forgiven and in the
> past will give the 3 down and out douches a break,
> Incogs waxing cars and Jerry and Pouncey cleaning
> offices.


Possibly, but first Martin would have to graduate from college, something he has yet to do, and even tougher considering his major is classical literature... Also considering both Pouncey and Incognito have bank accounts that dwarf Martins, I don't think they are too worried about it... Hey but at least Martin will have plenty of time on his hands to go back and finish his undergrad degree.. While Pouncey and Incognito will not because they get paid millions to play a sport they actually love... Martin does have an inheritance to look forward too, something Pouncey and Incognito do not, so Martin has that going for him...

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Yeah right. I predict he gets choked out and accidentally asphyxiated by an overzealous dominatrix named Mistress Helga who was enraged because he insisted on calling her Richie.

In the long run guys like Martin finish ahead. He's made enough to get him started on his way. I would put my money on him being ahead of the rest in 20 years.

Frankly I wouldn't be surprised if the dominatrix was named Richie Incog. They both were acting like prison lovers.

He marries Michael Sam and they become the first openly gay couple to play in the NFL.

Martin might get ahead, I wouldn't doubt that, but I seriously doubt it will be as an attorney... It is just hard for me to believe that someone who couldn't stand up for himself around his friends and teammates is somehow going to be paid to stand up for other people in legal proceedings...

Honestly, Would anyone here in their right mind hire Jonathan Martin to stand up for them in court? The thought of it alone is laughable....

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Is there anyone who knows football who thought Martin would outlast Incognito in this league?

Crowder52 Wrote:
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> Martin might get ahead, I wouldn't doubt that, but
> I seriously doubt it will be as an attorney... It
> is just hard for me to believe that someone who
> couldn't stand up for himself around his friends
> and teammates is somehow going to be paid to stand
> up for other people in legal proceedings...
>
> Honestly, Would anyone here in their right mind
> hire Jonathan Martin to stand up for them in
> court? The thought of it alone is laughable....


A lot of lawyers have never spent a day in court. These are the types that will see Martin as one of their own and Incog as a street bum. Football is just a small chapter in life and I would bet Martin finishes ahead of Pouncey, Jerry and Incog.

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> Is there anyone who knows football who thought
> Martin would outlast Incognito in this league?


I wasnt sure after the baseball bat to the Ferrari, mental hospital stay, and no one even giving Incognito a sniff last year, whether his career was over.. Not because he couldnt play but because of the baggage...

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mizzou15 Wrote:
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> A lot of lawyers have never spent a day in court.
> These are the types that will see Martin as one of
> their own and Incog as a street bum. Football is
> just a small chapter in life and I would bet
> Martin finishes ahead of Pouncey, Jerry and Incog.


Sure I agree I have many lawyers I work with for all types of reasons.. Whether they spend a day in court or not, they are representing my interest or their clients interest.. They have to be persuasive and influential whether in court or not.. A guy that cant even stand up for himself is not someone anyone would hire to stand up for them, court room or not... Lawyers have to lobby, persuade, represent their clients interest, clearly Martin was horrible at all of the above to get in the predicament he got in... It all starts with representing oneself before a lawyer can represent anyone else... Martin cant even get passed the first step.. He needs a lawyer to represent and protect his own interest. Never can he dream of representing someone else...

And to think Martin is going to get ahead of the lead Pouncey and Incognito have over him through law is absurd...

Maybe Martin can write a childs book or hope Pouncey and Incognito mismanage their money badly is absolutely the only chance Martin has to finish ahead of either one of them... Martin will not make the money in his entire career the money Pouncey will make this year alone...

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Agreed Crowder, I'm a construction worker with no college degree and I make as much or more than my 2 buddies who are lawyers, a small percentage make the big bucks, to assume Martin will out gain guys getting paid millions is absurd.

Lets not forget Martin was a goofball right along with Incog until he flipped out on him also. He could end up in the ditch just as much as the next guy

People want to take such draconian stances to support their view. No one can say how the future plays out. I honestly think Martin will get along further in life than the other 3. Thats where I would place my bet. Its not absurd its my opinion about as absurd as yours "Martin will not make as much money in his entire life as Pouncey will make this year alone".

Most people need a lawyer to protect their own interests even lawyers have lawyers "he who acts as his own lawyer ...'.

Interesting I would like to see where all of these guys are in 30 years. My money is on the Stanford man to be ahead.

Is it really that draconian or absurd? If Martin made 150,000 a year on avg as a lawyer, which is more then most but the very elite make. He would have to work 49.5 years to make as much as Pouncey will make this year alone.. if he makes $200,000 a year which is way above avg for a lawyer, he would have to work for 37 years at that avg to make what Pouncey will make this year... My money is on the elite football player making 7 million a year even before he signs his big contract next year...

And if you want to talk draconian, how about trying to prove someone who doesn't even have his undergrad degree, who is in a major such as classical literature, is going to be a vastly successful corporate lawyer, out earning elite NFL players, is as draconian an argument as it gets, don't you think?

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dolphaholic Wrote:
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> Agreed Crowder, I'm a construction worker with no
> college degree and I make as much or more than my
> 2 buddies who are lawyers, a small percentage make
> the big bucks, to assume Martin will out gain guys
> getting paid millions is absurd.
>



No doubt, most of my friends who are lawyers, struggle.. In fact a friend of mine who represents Greg Hardy, the NFL player who just signed with the Cowboys following his domestic violence issues, his lawyer borrowed cash from me last Saturday...

The ones that make money are lawyers that own entire law firms, and have several other lawyers they are making money on underneath them with a vig on each billable hour.. And they normally still invest heavily in other business's and real estate ventures to make their big money..

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Crowder52 Wrote:
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> mizzou15 Wrote:
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> -----
> > 20 years from now this guy will be a big time
> > corporate lawyer. All sins forgiven and in the
> > past will give the 3 down and out douches a
> break,
> > Incogs waxing cars and Jerry and Pouncey
> cleaning
> > offices.
>
>
> Possibly, but first Martin would have to graduate
> from college, something he has yet to do, and even
> tougher considering his major is classical
> literature... Also considering both Pouncey and
> Incognito have bank accounts that dwarf Martins, I
> don't think they are too worried about it... Hey
> but at least Martin will have plenty of time on
> his hands to go back and finish his undergrad
> degree.. While Pouncey and Incognito will not
> because they get paid millions to play a sport
> they actually love... Martin does have an
> inheritance to look forward too, something Pouncey
> and Incognito do not, so Martin has that going for
> him...

even if martin is a corporate lawyer he still won't match the $$ incog earns if he plays a few more season as a few million per. Martin never even finished out his rookie 2d round contract which probably paid him like 3mm total

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