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Dolphins view of the Lions game.
Posted by: dolphin ()
Date: November 10, 2014 04:04AM

DeJa Vu

Come out flat - check

get beind early - check

questionable coaching calls early - check

Come out in second half and play better - check

Get a small lead in the second half - check

Don't run the clock out on offense - check

Don't stop the other teams long drive on defense - check

Questionable calls on defense\timeouts on drive - check

give other team your timeouts on final drive - check

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Re: Dolphins view of the Lions game.
Posted by: dolphin ()
Date: November 10, 2014 10:47AM

Where exactly did Tannehill do great?

He made a tackle? That is great?

I've seen lots of QB's make a tackle on an INT, big whoopie..

seriously you are all excited Tannehill got a tackle on an INT HE THREW!!!

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Re: Dolphins view of the Lions game.
Posted by: jsm08 ()
Date: November 10, 2014 12:26PM

Tanne still falls short in the redzone.

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Re: Dolphins view of the Lions game.
Date: November 10, 2014 12:49PM

There is an old saying....it's never a mistake if you fix it. Tannehill not only fixed the problem, he motivated everyone on that feild. IT truly bothers you to see him do well. No way you are a Dolphins fan.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Dolphins view of the Lions game.
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: November 10, 2014 02:58PM

jsm08 Wrote:
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> Tanne still falls short in the redzone.


Yeah, but there are so many variables when you are inside the 20 and even more when you are inside the 10 yard line.

It's hard to just say, "If we don't get a touchdown pass, it's the QB's fault."

All it takes is one off. lineman whiffing on a block or a receiver stopping short or going too far or a running back making the wrong cut when he is handed the ball....

as I've said before, it is hard to blame a player for performance.....

but on the other hand, you easily want to blame PLAYERS and excuse COACHES when all they have to do is OUT-THINK the other coaches and above all, all they have to do is NOT make stupid decisions.

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Re: Dolphins view of the Lions game.
Date: November 10, 2014 04:15PM

jsm08 Wrote:
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> Tanne still falls short in the redzone.


he made several plays in the Red against the Chargers , and a few yesterday against one of the best defenses in the league. I don't see him falling short anywhere. Can he improve? sure.....everyone can. But he is anything but ineffective.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Dolphins view of the Lions game.
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: November 11, 2014 09:19AM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> jsm08 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Tanne still falls short in the redzone.
>
>
> Yeah, but there are so many variables when you are
> inside the 20 and even more when you are inside
> the 10 yard line.
>
> It's hard to just say, "If we don't get a
> touchdown pass, it's the QB's fault."
>
> All it takes is one off. lineman whiffing on a
> block or a receiver stopping short or going too
> far or a running back making the wrong cut when he
> is handed the ball....
>
> as I've said before, it is hard to blame a player
> for performance.....
>
> but on the other hand, you easily want to blame
> PLAYERS and excuse COACHES when all they have to
> do is OUT-THINK the other coaches and above all,
> all they have to do is NOT make stupid decisions.

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The pass to Clay in the end zone was on the money. Clay couldn't hold it. RTs fault? I don't think so.

Also Chryen, blame goes to all. Sure, coaches make some bone-headed calls/decisions, but in the overall scheme of things, not that many during any one game. It is sometimes magnified because of the situation in which it was called.

The players are the one's on that field who make the difference, either way, positive or negative. The offense makes a first down, good possibility the game is over. The defense doesn't let the opponent drive down the field with little time on the clock, game probably over.

I put the onus on the players more than I do on the coaches.

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Re: Dolphins view of the Lions game.
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: November 11, 2014 02:19PM


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Re: Dolphins view of the Lions game.
Date: November 11, 2014 03:11PM

Philbin definite needs to go if we are to reach the next level. I like hickey to find a suitable replacement.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Dolphins view of the Lions game.
Posted by: dolphin ()
Date: November 12, 2014 05:44AM

Tannehill not only fixed the problem, he motivated everyone on that feild.

He motivated them how exactly? Rallied them to victory???/ uh no.

Perhaps if he had hit a wide open Wallace for the deep TD that would have motivated them to victory. A better pass to Clay in the endzone perhaps motivates them to victory.

Their QB made the 2 passes that Tannehill did not, they won.

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Re: Dolphins view of the Lions game.
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: November 12, 2014 05:51AM


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Re: Dolphins view of the Lions game.
Posted by: dolphin ()
Date: November 12, 2014 05:56AM

discussing the game.

every game is different, except many seem the same with the Dolphins.

but hey, keep on attacking me yet again.

ironic you imply I make same comments, yet you certainly do.

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Re: Dolphins view of the Lions game.
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: November 12, 2014 09:47AM


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Re: Dolphins view of the Lions game.
Posted by: dolphin ()
Date: November 12, 2014 10:18AM

Almost

Almost gets coaches fired and players replaced.

Guess you want that again for the Dolphins...... as long as Tannehill plays well..... lol

I want the Dolphins to WIN!

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Re: Dolphins view of the Lions game.
Date: November 12, 2014 03:45PM


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Re: Dolphins view of the Lions game.
Posted by: dolphin ()
Date: November 13, 2014 04:03AM

He's 34th in fourth-quarter passing (55.7 percent, 1 TD, 2 INTs, 68.2 passer rating), and ranks 26th in third-down passing (55 percent, 3 TDs, 2 INTs, 74.4 passer rating).

yes stagering.

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Re: Dolphins view of the Lions game.
Date: November 13, 2014 08:33AM

How are Matt Moores stats!? drinking smiley

Off to the game to watch Ryan warm up in person........winking smiley

Go Phins!!


Miami wins tonight despite what Dolphin really wants........eye rolling smiley

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Dolphins view of the Lions game.
Posted by: dolphin ()
Date: November 13, 2014 08:59AM

Not sure why you keep throwing Moore out there???? Obviously he is not playing.

Guess that is all you can come up with...

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Re: Dolphins view of the Lions game.
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: November 13, 2014 09:04AM

dolphin Wrote:
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> He's 34th in fourth-quarter passing (55.7 percent,
> 1 TD, 2 INTs, 68.2 passer rating), and ranks 26th
> in third-down passing (55 percent, 3 TDs, 2 INTs,
> 74.4 passer rating).
>
> yes stagering.


and the Dolphins are the NFL leaders in third quarter scoring, putting up 94 points in the quarter after the half.

Tannehill’s 7.9 yards per carry average is the highest average for any NFL player who has carried the ball 30 or more times this season.

Tannehill is presently on pace to throw for 3,808 yards, 28 touchdowns & 12 interceptions

And we are still 5-4 AS A TEAM. So give me another meaningless stat.

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Re: Dolphins view of the Lions game.
Posted by: dolphin ()
Date: November 13, 2014 09:10AM

who cares about a QB with a high avg, seriously? that is all you got, and it is second now behind russell wilson who by the way has a super bowl ring.

how many games are won in the 3rd quarter?

here is the only stat you need :

He's 34th in fourth-quarter passing (55.7 percent, 1 TD, 2 INTs, 68.2 passer rating), and ranks 26th in third-down passing (55 percent, 3 TDs, 2 INTs, 74.4 passer rating).

games are WON in the 4th quarter.

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Re: Dolphins view of the Lions game.
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: November 13, 2014 09:13AM

dolphin Wrote:
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> He's 34th in fourth-quarter passing (55.7 percent,
> 1 TD, 2 INTs, 68.2 passer rating), and ranks 26th
> in third-down passing (55 percent, 3 TDs, 2 INTs,
> 74.4 passer rating).
>
> games are WON in the 4th quarter.

Then how did we win 5 games?

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Re: Dolphins view of the Lions game.
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: November 13, 2014 09:16AM

Games are won by playing 60 minutes genius.

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Re: Dolphins view of the Lions game.
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: November 13, 2014 09:32AM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> captkoi Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ChyrenB Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > as I've said before, it is hard to blame a
> > player
> > > for performance.....
> > >
> > > but on the other hand, you easily want to
> blame
> > > PLAYERS and excuse COACHES when all they have
> > to
> > > do is OUT-THINK the other coaches and above
> > all,
> > > all they have to do is NOT make stupid
> > decisions.
> >
> >
> **************************************************
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > Also Chryen, blame goes to all. Sure, coaches
> make
> > some bone-headed calls/decisions, but in the
> > overall scheme of things, not that many during
> any
> > one game. It is sometimes magnified because of
> the
> > situation in which it was called.
> >
> > The players are the one's on that field who
> make
> > the difference, either way, positive or
> negative.
> > The offense makes a first down, good
> possibility
> > the game is over. The defense doesn't let the
> > opponent drive down the field with little time
> on
> > the clock, game probably over.
> >
> > I put the onus on the players more than I do on
> > the coaches.
>
> I disagree Cap. There is so much required of
> physical performance. And that just the player's
> physicality. You also have to figure in the
> physicality OF THE OPPOSING PLAYERS.
>
> Plus there is ALSO A MENTAL ASPECT to the player's
> job. A receiver can fake out a D back or a d back
> can make it appear that he is completely fooled by
> the receiver and bait the receiver and make the
> interception.
>
> A quarterback can be baited into an interception.
>
> A lineman can be baited into blocking in such a
> way as to give another defensive lineman a clear
> shot at the quarterback.
>
> and I could go on and on and on in demonstrating
> that PLAYERS have to do right MENTALLY as well as
> physically.
>
> For Godsakes, all the coaches are required to do
> is think!
>
> AND THAT'S ONLY HALF OF WHAT I'M SAYING.
>
> I'm NOT EVEN BLAMING THEM FOR BEING OUTFOXED BY
> OTHER COACHES. NONE OF MY COMPLAINTS IN THE PAST
> HAVE INVOLVED THAT.
>
>
> I don't think it is asking too much of coaches
> NOT to make a mistake in THINKING, rather than be
> outfoxed.
>
> And moreover, not to make the bonehead stupid
> mistakes they make.
>
> Their mistakes are INEXPLICABLE TO ME.
>
> I'm not just talking about guessing wrong on
> say....whether to try a 50 yard field goal or pass
> it up when we are behind by 2.
>
> I'm talking about real stupid sh*t like 1)calling
> those timeouts in the Green Bay game when you
> figure that it's better to get a chance to go over
> your defense than it is to let the clock run down
> on a team THAT IS BEHIND AND OUT OF TIME OUTS.
>
> To a lesser degree, it involves 2)deciding that in
> Detroit's "gotta catch up" last series of downs,
> to decide to not play pressure defense but
> coverage defense against them which allowed them
> to go from THEIR 20 yard line on the first
> possession to OUR 27 yard line with plenty of time
> left on the clock.
>
> Pretty soon all will come to the conclusion that
> we have to get rid of Philbin. I argued with
> Sparano's conservativism but never have I seen
> anyone but Philbin make such boneheaded moves. It
> explains entirely why he was never promoted to
> Head Coach by anyone else before.....NOT EVEN ON
> THE COLLEGE LEVEL.

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I understand what you are saying, Chryen, but don't necessarily agree. Some of your points are valid, however.

I still say in the majority of time, the onus is on the players. The coaching staff designs the plays and puts the players in position to make the plays. If a player is not that talented or makes a bone-headed mistake, the other team takes advantage.

Every single team in the NFL has problems on the field. They could have HOF coaches, and still blow it. Shula was a hell of a coach. He had teams that screwed up, not because he made a mistake, but because the player(s) did not carry out their assignment(s).

You want to pin those two games on Philbin (and the other coaches)? Both our offense and defense didn't do the job in the last four minutes. If they had, Philbin would not have been put into the situation where he had to call a timeout(s). I'm not saying that I agree or disagree with his decision(s), I'm just saying that players shouldn't put him in that position.

Coaches make decisions that turn out to be brilliant; other times they make the same decision and they look like dumb asses.

My point was that the players make more mistakes than a coaching staff. At times it looks worse for the coach because of the timing or situation. The players have sixty minutes, where many mistakes are made.

Either way, heads roll because of the mistakes.

As far as Philbin goes, the buck stops with him.

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Re: Dolphins view of the Lions game.
Posted by: dolphin ()
Date: November 13, 2014 09:38AM

we would have won more if we stopped playing in the 4th quarter, but golly gee they do have to play in the 4th too.... dang it!!!

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Re: Dolphins view of the Lions game.
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: November 13, 2014 06:37PM

BTW dolphin where is the "dolphin's view of the Bills game?"

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Re: Dolphins view of the Lions game.
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: November 13, 2014 06:53PM

He is too busy crying and hiding. (Wasn't that an 80's band?)

TANNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHILL is a warrior!

26/34/240/2...isn't that like a 110 QBR? 76% completion rate!!!!!!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/14/2014 03:21AM by JoeFootball.

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Re: Dolphins view of the Lions game.
Date: November 13, 2014 07:08PM

An DC Miami and Ryan Tannehill killed it! Buffalo nev r had a chance we are a completely different club. Every fan felt it!!

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Dolphins view of the Lions game.
Date: November 13, 2014 07:09PM

Oh yeah....glad your night was ruined Dolphin. LOL !!

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Dolphins view of the Lions game.
Date: November 13, 2014 07:09PM

Oh yeah....glad your night was ruined Dolphin. LOL !!

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Dolphins view of the Lions game.
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: November 14, 2014 01:23AM

Have no fear guys, dolphin and Omar will find a way to put a negative spin on it.......two birds of a feather

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