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Jaguar Trap
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: October 21, 2014 04:16AM

Jags are not a good team but they do lead the league in QB sacks I believe. Something like 29.

31st ranked offense, 28th defense.

This is exactly the sort of trap game we always fall for....remember last year vs the 0-8 Bucs?

It seems every time we think other teams have a weakness we can exploit it never happens. For instance, running the ball on the Packers.

The Jags have given up as many sacks as they have gotten....29 on offense.

This should be a blowout if Miami is indeed ready to turn the corner. They are not good anywhere in particular but there strengths are at guard and they have a deep d-line. Chris Clemons leads the team with 5 sacks. Their young LT, Joeckel has not been very good.

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Re: Jaguar Trap
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: October 21, 2014 04:32AM

I actually think it's good they got the monkey off their backs last week, wasn't looking forward to facing a winless team. We have to win this game, no excuses

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Re: Jaguar Trap
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: October 21, 2014 05:20AM

Agreed, we have to be ready to take it to them from the coin toss this week. Simply can't have any let downs, not only this week but for the rest of the year.

We have the #1 ranked defense, are #11 in scoring and #4 in rushing and have an improving QB. We should be able to play conservatively by running the ball quite often and still come out with the win...unless that is, we have a let down. We have to play a claen game though.

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Re: Jaguar Trap
Posted by: dolphin ()
Date: October 21, 2014 05:34AM

yeah, i made this point already....

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Re: Jaguar Trap
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: October 21, 2014 06:00AM

Ken Wrote:
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> Agreed, we have to be ready to take it to them
> from the coin toss this week. Simply can't have
> any let downs, not only this week but for the rest
> of the year.
>
> We have the #1 ranked defense, are #11 in scoring
> and #4 in rushing and have an improving QB. We
> should be able to play conservatively by running
> the ball quite often and still come out with the
> win...unless that is, we have a let down. We have
> to play a claen game though.

I believe we are the #4 ranked defense in yards. #4 in passing yards allowed, #10 in rushing yards allowed. Not quite #1 yet.

#15 in points allowed.

There is no way their offense can compete with our defense UNLESS as you say, we have a complete break down...which is unlikely.

Their rushing defense is their strength and not much different than ours. Jags pass D is ranked 30th in yards and 6th worst in points given up.

If RT is allowed to get out of the pocket again, there are not many teams that can defend that. Short passing game and a running QB spells misery for Jax.

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Re: Jaguar Trap
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: October 21, 2014 06:08AM

What worries me is philbin and his inability to inspire players.


We have to take it to them from the beginning. I still have flashbacks of that tampa game last year.

Any team can beat any other team in any given day in the nfl.

Look at the rams and seahawks game.

We might be able to ressurect this season afterall.

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Re: Jaguar Trap
Posted by: dolphin ()
Date: October 21, 2014 06:35AM

I dont know that that is true that he does not inspire players. They bounced back really well after a really negative loss. Tannehill is playing much better since Philpins non support.

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Re: Jaguar Trap
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: October 21, 2014 07:04AM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> What worries me is philbin and his inability to
> inspire players.
>
>
> We have to take it to them from the beginning. I
> still have flashbacks of that tampa game last
> year.
>
> Any team can beat any other team in any given day
> in the nfl.
>
> Look at the rams and seahawks game.
>
> We might be able to ressurect this season
> afterall.

The Seahawks have the same record as Miami. Does that mean Pete Carroll is not inspiring them?

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Re: Jaguar Trap
Posted by: colonel ()
Date: October 21, 2014 08:12AM


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Re: Jaguar Trap
Posted by: toko34 ()
Date: October 21, 2014 09:29AM

Jags have played their opponents fairly tough this season. Hope the Phins don't let their guard down, but with this Jekyl and Hyde team..it would be par for the course.

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Re: Jaguar Trap
Posted by: dolphin ()
Date: October 21, 2014 10:41AM

hence a trap game.

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Re: Jaguar Trap
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: October 21, 2014 12:30PM

The offense needs to come out of the gate well and not look back.. For the most part the Jags have a real tough time putting points on the board...

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All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.
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Re: Jaguar Trap
Date: October 21, 2014 02:52PM

Good thing we got Dion Jordon back!!! eye rolling smileytongue sticking out smiley

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Jaguar Trap
Posted by: 808phan ()
Date: October 21, 2014 06:54PM

LOL good one treasure!

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Re: Jaguar Trap
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: October 22, 2014 04:06AM

Jordan will come in handy when we play those TE's in SD, Den & NE.

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Re: Jaguar Trap
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: October 22, 2014 04:57AM

JoeFootball,

"The Dolphins are 1st in total defense with 313.7 yards allowed a game. The Dolphins are fourth in rushing yards allowed a game and 10th in passing yards. They rank 11th with 11 turnovers – though their eight forced fumbles is tied for second."

Ft. Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel.

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Re: Jaguar Trap
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: October 22, 2014 05:04AM


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Re: Jaguar Trap
Posted by: jsm08 ()
Date: October 22, 2014 07:25AM

I think we roll the Jags just like we rolled the Raiders.

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Re: Jaguar Trap
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: October 22, 2014 10:22AM

I think the only "trap" is our own off and on poor performances or coaching errors.

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Re: Jaguar Trap
Date: October 22, 2014 02:12PM

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> Jordan will come in handy when we play those TE's
> in SD, Den & NE.


Glad we spent a top three draft pick and a #2 on something "handy.."..

That's like spending $20 grand on a flashlight you keep in the draw.And hopefully the batteries are charged. ....

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Jaguar Trap
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: October 23, 2014 02:33AM

It doesn't matter at this point. What's done is done. We now just have to find a way to utilize the Ireland pick or showcase him this week if they want to make a trade before the 10-28-14 trade deadline.

We could use a guard, TE and a LB.

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Re: Jaguar Trap
Posted by: chatafkup ()
Date: October 23, 2014 04:22AM

jsm08 Wrote:
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> I think we roll the Jags just like we rolled the
> Raiders.

Absolutely. If it was last year's team I might be apprehensive to say it, but I am sure this will not be a disappointment.

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Re: Jaguar Trap
Date: October 23, 2014 04:27AM

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> It doesn't matter at this point. What's done is
> done. We now just have to find a way to utilize
> the Ireland pick or showcase him this week if they
> want to make a trade before the 10-28-14 trade
> deadline.
>
> We could use a guard, TE and a LB.

Lol. Do you still think he has any trade value at this point?

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Jaguar Trap
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: October 23, 2014 04:45AM


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Re: Jaguar Trap
Posted by: colonel ()
Date: October 23, 2014 05:45AM

His trade value is nil. He was recently asked if he was in good enough condition to play on Sunday, and his reply according to third party (hearsay) was he's "not sure." NOT SURE?

This guy is headed for the unemployment line.

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Re: Jaguar Trap
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: October 23, 2014 06:07AM

I wouldn't read too much into that statement. You don't get into football shape unless you play football.

One another note....

middle linebacker Paul Posluszny (torn pectoral muscle) for the rest of the season and defensive end Andre Branch (groin) for at least six.

Their strength was the front 7 but they just lost two of their best last week.

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Re: Jaguar Trap
Posted by: dolphin ()
Date: October 23, 2014 06:14AM

except Jones response was "Hell yeah, I'm ready to go, can't wait to get back on the field."

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Re: Jaguar Trap
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: October 23, 2014 09:05AM

I still have faith in Jordans ability... I hope the organization and his veteran teammates surround and support this guy on and off the field.... If they can do that, that would correct what would seem to have been holding him back. It surely isn't his athleticism or his football skill, the guy is a freak... He is either going to be a hero or a zero IMO.. There is going to be no in between with this guy... I wouldn't trade him, IMO we need to see this one through, good or bad... Nothing would be worse then to have him flourish for somebody else in the future with what we have invested in him draft picks and cap space...

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Re: Jaguar Trap
Posted by: colonel ()
Date: October 24, 2014 05:13AM


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Re: Jaguar Trap
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: October 24, 2014 05:25AM

We have our WLB but now Misi is hurt again so we me end up with Trusnik as the MLB again. It would be nice to get Jordan some snaps at SLB as Von Miller is doing. (NFL sack leader)

I wonder where Tripp has been. I am still of the mind that he needs to add much more muscle to his frame and won't be a factor until next year after an off season.

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