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Who would you rather have?

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13 votes were received.

27 year old, All around young stud, Eugene Monroe	11		85%
30 year old, non run-blocking, bad back, Branden Albert	2		15%

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First it was reported Miami liked Albert more. Now it is being reported they like Monroe very much! That makes me feel better!

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At this point I'd be happy with anyone that can handle "name calling".

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

Jason Peter just signed an extension that will pay him over 10 mil per season. That does not help.

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You need to watch some Baltimore Ravens tapes from last year. I saw no stud at LT (Monroe).

Baltimore avg 3.1 ypr rush KC 4.7. BAL leading rusher had 660 yards, KC's 1280. KC rushed for over 2k yards in 2014. I think Bell is the better of the two. Bell does not do everything right but the things he does he excels at. Still not sure that I would sign either one or resign McKinney for 1 year and make LT a high priority for 2015.

It will be Monroe if they're serious.

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McKinnie was benched in favor of Monroe. Not sure who "Bell" is....but Baltimore had bigger issues running the ball. Their running back was out of shape and not focused from everything I've heard.

You are judging an the entire running offense. Not just a left tackle.

KC had one of the best lines AND RB in the NFL

Bal had one of the worst and a RB having off the field issues. They were a team in transition. Not sure I would place the blame on one lineman.

Monroe is a smarter long term investment. He is known for being a great run blocker. Judge career, not one season.

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If so I hope he is not another Clabo. I did not see much in his game here in Bmore.

I kinda hope McKinney hands around for another year. Guy knows his shit. Monroe would help drastically. Clabo needs to go open a restaurant and retire. Place should be called "Stick a fork in me".

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

I worry about McKinnie having a summer in South Beach with new paper in his pocket, Monroe will probably not hit FA and Albert will be looking for Jake Long money.......how about the LT from Cincy, he any good?

if Monroe is so great why was Jax so eager to dump him for a low round pick last year? I get that they drafted an OL high but then so did KC and they did not dump Albert.

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dolphaholic Wrote:
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> I worry about McKinnie having a summer in South
> Beach with new paper in his pocket, Monroe will
> probably not hit FA and Albert will be looking for
> Jake Long money.......how about the LT from Cincy,
> he any good?


Anthony Collins is very good. Great pass protector, so-so run blocker but could be had for probably 6 mil per season.

I would be ok with McKinnie but he would have to show a greater level of commitment in order to sign. Like showing up weighing 320 lbs (not 360), in shape and pass a physical. He said he played injured last year. Gave up way too many sacks and could not run block!

Albert will be looking for more than Jake Long money. Long signed for around 8 mil per year. 4 year/34 mil. 12 mil guaranteed. 9.2 mil cap hit this year! I think Albert will try for 10 mil.

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berkeley223 Wrote:
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> if Monroe is so great why was Jax so eager to dump
> him for a low round pick last year? I get that
> they drafted an OL high but then so did KC and
> they did not dump Albert.

Because they are a team with MANY MANY needs and Monroe was in the last year of his contract AND they signed a LT in the top 2. They got a 4th and a 5th for a guy they would probably lose anyway.

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I live in Bmore County - the Ravens backs were in great shape. They did let their best guard Grubbs leave but you cannot blame the lack of a running game on the rb's.

mizzou15 Wrote:
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> I live in Bmore County - the Ravens backs were in
> great shape. They did let their best guard Grubbs
> leave but you cannot blame the lack of a running
> game on the rb's.


and they lost their PB center (Birk) to retirement. His replacement Gino Graqdkowski sucked. Their right tackle, Oher sucked.

Their only good linemen were Monroe and Yanda.

I just read an article that stated team sources reported that Rice was not himself last season and didn't show the dedication he had in the past. Then he goes off on his woman beating incident...reports may have been right.

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ALberts age and injury makes me nervous... Monroe not sure how good he is and what type of money he would want... If we can get a good tackle in the draft I would have to go in that direction... I would rather not over pay for another FA...

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and also Caldwell had Baltimore switch to a zone blocking scheme. Even w/ the issues Monroe did not distinguish himself going one on one w/ the man in front of him. If only Rice looked bad running the ballI would point him but none of Baltimores backs were able to do anything behind that line.

McKinney in hand is worth two in the bush, just sayin,,

Keith Simms said on finishers today that the Chiefs would never let us do a physical on Albert last offseason which is why we shied away from trading for him... So he suggested there was a reason they didn't want us to give him a physical last year... He also finished the year with a knee injury and didn't play the last 5 games... All that being said combined with his age, Albert makes me nervous unless it is at a much lower cost and shorter terms then he and his agent are gunning for... That being said I don't want to rely on drafting a 3rd rd tackle to solve our oline problems... So we have to do something, we will see what Hickey is worth very quickly... He will either be a champ or chump right off the bat...

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/26/2014 01:01PM by Crowder52.

too bad Ireland wasn't as good a GM as Ozzie Newsome or Monroe would've been on our team last year for a mid-round pick.

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Crowder52 Wrote:
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> Keith Simms said on finishers today that the
> Chiefs would never let us do a physical on Albert
> last offseason which is why we shied away from
> trading for him... So he suggested there was a
> reason they didn't want us to give him a physical
> last year... He also finished the year with a knee
> injury and didn't play the last 5 games... All
> that being said combined with his age, Albert
> makes me nervous unless it is at a much lower cost
> and shorter terms then he and his agent are
> gunning for... That being said I don't want to
> rely on drafting a 3rd rd tackle to solve our
> oline problems... So we have to do something, we
> will see what Hickey is worth very quickly... He
> will either be a champ or chump right off the
> bat...

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If what you are saying is true, Crowder, and I would have no reason to doubt you, then I say just resign McKinnie and another good, but cheaper, offensive lineman, along with two or three in the draft.

Why overpay for Albert, which is what is going to happen if anyone signs Albert, because of Peters' contract.

Report is that Baltimore and Monroe are far apart on a contract.

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eesti Wrote:
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> Report is that Baltimore and Monroe are far apart
> on a contract.

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Yep, which means Miami would have to (probably) back up their Brinks truck to sign him.

He isn't that great; not so sure I would want to do that.

Miami is in desperate need for linemen, but hopefully they aren't so desperate that they will be overpaying for someone.

eesti Wrote:
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> Anthony Collins is very good. Great pass
> protector, so-so run blocker but could be had for
> probably 6 mil per season.


Why isn't he getting more pub as a viable option for us? It seems like everyone is sold on Albert or Monroe but give AC no love?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/03/2014 10:33AM by dolphaholic.

Because he was a career backup prior and only started last year due to injury.

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Last year there were several OL guys in the draft that were very athletic and jumped way up in value after working out. A few of them turned out to be pretty good last year.

Terron Armstead, Lane Johnson...even Kyle Long. Johnson catapulted into the top 5 after working out.

I don't see those guys this year. Taylor Lewan ran a nice 40 but he was already ranked pretty high. Not a whole bunch of athletes left.

If we do not sign a starting LT in FA then we are probably screwed..because 4 or 5 could be drafted before pick 19. Then what?

Obviously my favorite is Monroe. At 27, I believe he is that good. We were going to pay injury risk Jake Long 8 mil....which he ended up getting anyway. Monroe has been much more durable so I would bite the bullet and pay the money.

Jason Peters is an elite LT. Athletic and excels in all phases of the game. He just received a 4 year, 41 mil deal with 15 mil guaranteed at 32 years old.

I don't think Monroe gets that type of money but something in the 8.5 mil range....Probably

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if 4 or 5 OTs are taken before us there's no need to reach for one with our pick.

if the top db or dt or g are available then take them.

That's a given but the idea was that we must be prepared for that to happen AND that LT is too important to gamble on being there in the draft.... unless we have the ammo to get one of the top 2 or possibly 3 guys...which we probably don't.

We would have to give up our 2nd round pick to move up for Mathews or Robinson and we need that pick to get either a DT, FS, OG, RT, etc.

Basically whatever we don't get in FA, there better be a great chance of getting a starter in the first two rounds.

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eesti Wrote:
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> Last year there were several OL guys in the draft
> that were very athletic and jumped way up in value
> after working out. A few of them turned out to be
> pretty good last year.
>
> Terron Armstead, Lane Johnson...even Kyle Long.
> Johnson catapulted into the top 5 after working
> out.
>
> I don't see those guys this year. Taylor Lewan ran
> a nice 40 but he was already ranked pretty high.
> Not a whole bunch of athletes left.
>
> If we do not sign a starting LT in FA then we are
> probably screwed..because 4 or 5 could be drafted
> before pick 19. Then what?
>
> Obviously my favorite is Monroe. At 27, I believe
> he is that good. We were going to pay injury risk
> Jake Long 8 mil....which he ended up getting
> anyway. Monroe has been much more durable so I
> would bite the bullet and pay the money.
>
> Jason Peters is an elite LT. Athletic and excels
> in all phases of the game. He just received a 4
> year, 41 mil deal with 15 mil guaranteed at 32
> years old.
>
> I don't think Monroe gets that type of money but
> something in the 8.5 mil range....Probably

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Monroe (or his agent) are looking for the $10M payday.

Can Miami really afford to put out that kind of money?

Miami will probably be going after the second-tier linemen, who are good enough to start for them without the big price tag.

eesti Wrote:
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> That's a given but the idea was that we must be
> prepared for that to happen AND that LT is too
> important to gamble on being there in the
> draft.... unless we have the ammo to get one of
> the top 2 or possibly 3 guys...which we probably
> don't.
>
> We would have to give up our 2nd round pick to
> move up for Mathews or Robinson and we need that
> pick to get either a DT, FS, OG, RT, etc.
>
> Basically whatever we don't get in FA, there
> better be a great chance of getting a starter in
> the first two rounds.

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It would be more than that, eesti.

Our second rounder this year, along with another pick, then possibly our first next year, or at the least, our second.

With Miami at the 19th spot, FA is where the Fins have to go to get two of their starters (line).