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I need an explanation
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: January 01, 2014 03:10PM

Speaking of the 2014 draft. I went to nfl.com. I clicked on standing and chose the option "standings by league". Curiously, they have us higher (meaning a better record) than the Jets.

But we shouldn't be. We are 2-4 in the Division and the Jets are 3-3 in the division. We split head to head.

Yes, there are many teams at 8-8 but I thought that when considering drafting order, the same rules are applied as are applied to determine playoff spots ONLY IN REVERSE.

Therefore, in determining playoff spots, the division tiebreakers are FIRST applied to break all ties within the division. Division record comes after head to head.

As such, no matter how the Jets should be ranked vis a vis the OTHER TEAMS, they should be ranked ahead of the Dolphins and thus the Dolphins should have an earlier draft choice (of course not counting trades etc.).

Anyone have an explanation or should I have clicked on a different tab?

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Re: I need an explanation
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: January 01, 2014 04:08PM

I just considered that "strength of schedule" stuff.

I know how it should work for the playoffs which would be the team with the greater strength of schedule would advance over the team with the weaker strength of schedule but does

1) it apply at all

2) does it mean that if you have a stronger strength of schedule you pick LAST because your rival did the same against a weaker schedule?

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Re: I need an explanation
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: January 01, 2014 07:58PM


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Re: I need an explanation
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: January 04, 2014 01:12PM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Found out the answer to my own question.
>
> Strength of schedule for the previous season is
> the first tie-breaker for teams with the same
> winning percentage. The team with the lowest
> strength of schedule percentage wins the
> tiebreaker and picks ahead of all other teams with
> the same record.
>
> So, the first tiebreaker is strength of
> schedule.
>
> No point considering the record of the other
> division foes and even non-division foes who we
> played in common. Those figures would work out to
> be the same.
>
> But The teams played and their records that we
> and the Jesters DON'T HAVE IN COMMON ARE:
>
> JETS
> Tennessee 7-9
> Oak 4-12
>
>
>
> DOLPHINS
> Indy 11-5
> San Diego 8-8
>
> Obviously their non-common opponents went 11-21
> and ours, both playoff teams, went 19-13.
>
> Under NFL rules, since we played the stronger
> schedule and they played the weaker schedule and
> had the same record, they pick before us in the
> draft.
>
> That sucks because they are a division rival and
> in those cases, they might find it advisable to
> pluck someone we want or even trade their pick to
> a non division rival that might be in competition
> with us for that player. doing that would be a
> win-win for them.

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To me, that formula is dumb.

That's like the Super Bowl champion picking first in the draft.

Dumb!

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Re: I need an explanation
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: January 04, 2014 01:44PM

Agree. Doesn't make too much sense. The team with the better division record should pick last. Just use the same rules that you would use to get to the playoffs BUT ONLY IN REVERSE. And then, if there is STILL a tie, use strength of schedule AT THE END, NOT AT THE BEGINNING.

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