When you have a bye week and all the time to prepare your team and game plan for this game, you have to blame the coaches... This performance is horrible so far... RT looks like he regressed tremendously... The only positive is, THomas looks better then Miller has starting...

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I guess I spoke to soon with Miller, that run really got that drive kick started... and we sure needed it

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sorry crowder but coaches do not throw ints.

Sam Sam you are right, some of it is on Tannehill for sure... But I blame the coaches for not having the team better prepared for a divisional game

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they do call the plays though and they keep calling that stupid 5 yard and everyone turn around play, not to mention Tannehill locks on the receiver the entire time

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> I guess I spoke to soon with Miller, that run
> really got that drive kick started... and we sure
> needed it

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I haven't counted, but it seems as though Miller and Thomas are on a number of carries system. No running back in this league can break out when they are on the sideline after so many plays.

Miller is the more dangerous of the two. I have seen Miller on numerous occasions this year burst through the line and either lose his balance or get tripped up just as he was ready to break a long one.

If he could learn to keep his balance, Miller would get many chunk yards this year. Thomas needs to remain the power back.

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> sorry crowder but coaches do not throw ints.

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No, coaches do not throw interceptions, but RT does not call the plays, either.

Every QB throws interceptions, including Danny Boy. But, as was the case in this game, RT came back strong.

Sherman called that pass play near the end that ensured the Fins lost.

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> No, coaches do not throw interceptions, but RT
> does not call the plays, either.
>
> Every QB throws interceptions, including Danny
> Boy. But, as was the case in this game, RT came
> back strong.
>
> Sherman called that pass play near the end that
> ensured the Fins lost.

Truer words were never spoken.

Poor start? Miami has been sluggish out of the gate on nearly every game this year, including the preseason. It usually takes them a few possessions before they start sustaining drives, with a few exceptions. IMO, the coaching staff is doing a poor job of having the team ready for each game.

and Tannehill didn't give up 16 points to a scrub QB with a bunch of average WR's and TE's.

He didn't miss tackles on the final drive when an injured running back was shoving the ball down our throat.

Why is nobody mentioning the decline of this defense?

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> Why is nobody mentioning the decline of this
> defense?


I would, but I just don't have the time... complaining about the offense is a full-time job!

So we can add Kevin Coyle to the shit list as well. No way we should have been that bad minus ONE mediocre starter. (two if you include limited snaps for Wake).

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gofins60 Wrote:
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> Poor start? Miami has been sluggish out of the
> gate on nearly every game this year, including the
> preseason. It usually takes them a few possessions
> before they start sustaining drives, with a few
> exceptions. IMO, the coaching staff is doing a
> poor job of having the team ready for each game.

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...and having plays called that fit this offense.

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> eesti Wrote:
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> > Why is nobody mentioning the decline of this
> > defense?
>
>
> I would, but I just don't have the time...
> complaining about the offense is a full-time job!

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Lol, that's a good one, gofins60. Funny, but true. That is Miami's main problem, right now. Yes, the D caves at crunch time, but the offense is the one that got them in that situation in the first place. However, if the D could get more turnovers, then maybe that situation wouldn't be occurring. Put the offense in a better position on the field and maybe score more points.

I have spoken of the defense's shortcomings many times on this board.

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> So we can add Kevin Coyle to the shit list as
> well. No way we should have been that bad minus
> ONE mediocre starter. (two if you include limited
> snaps for Wake).

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I agree, Coyle is also a problem, but not as big of one as Sherman. Coyle is limited in what he has to work with (injuries, mostly). Up front he has a very good line; linebacking is good, but the secondary is where the problems are. True, a strong pass rush and DBs covering go hand-in-hand, but even then, I am amazed at how often the opposing receivers are in our secondary. I watch other games and only at times do I see guys that open.

Coyle has what he has in the secondary. I would guess that he isn't going to be able to do much until the offseason when he has more time to work with these guys, especially the rookies. Grimes is the best DB Miami has; will Miami be willing to pay him what he would probably be asking?

decline of the defense? Tannehill gave up 10 of the points to the other team with his INT for TD and fumble inside FG range.

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> decline of the defense? Tannehill gave up 10 of
> the points to the other team with his INT for TD
> and fumble inside FG range.

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Who are you replying to, dolphin?

The defense hasnt really declined, we are about what we were last year, except a little better against the pass... The run defense is about the same rank.. WIth Cameron Wake hurt, our pass rush isnt as good as it was last year obviously... but that is injury driven rather then a decline so to speak..

There are holes in Coyles scheme though... Our Linebackers get caught in mis matches a lot, as we saw the Saints do to us.... We dont cover the TE well nor running backs like Sproles out of the backfield... our linebackers one on one against a Jimmy Graham or Darren Sproles is bad medicine every day of the week... I expect NE to try the same with their RB and Gronk... I sure hope Coyles has an answer for it this week...

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We declined last year to around 13th in rushing yards but most of that was due to injuries at DT. We were in the top 3 for the first half of the season before the injuries. We were dominant. I expected that this year. We were 27th in passing yards last year and 7th in points per game.

We are 15th in rushing yards allowed this year and 25th in passing yards allowed. We are 20th in ppg.

So that's a decline from 7th ranked to 20th so far. That's going from top 10 to lower middle of the pack so yes it's a healthy decline.

We went from 19.8 ppg in 2012 to 23.3 this year! That's the wrong direction for a team with "improved depth and talent"

Take into consideration that Burnett and Dansby were among the top ranked LB's last year. Burnett was in the top 5 all year. He is ranked 7th this year. They were both MUCH better in coverage. Wheeler and Ellerbe are ranked somewhere in the 30'. They have been terrible in overage as well as rush defense. Wheeler has made a few more big plays up to this point.

I am not liking this changing of the guard especially if you consider that we overpaid grossly for these guys.

Coyle is nowhere near the coordinator that Mike Zimmer is and we now see that the success of the overachieving Bengals DB's was not because of Coyle.

It would have been nice to keep Burnett, realease or trade Dansby and draft Kiko Alonso instead of an unhealthy CB who hasn't even played. That guy (Kiko) can cover. He already has 4 ints, 1 FF, 1 sack and 4 PD's. We got the other guy from Oregan instead.

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