UMMM Miami in all their brilliance back then, used Welker as a punt returner..........

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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> Im sorry but payton manning will make a receiver
> on crutches look good.
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Its amazing how many people around here didn't want Manning when he was a free agent.

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> > Im sorry but payton manning will make a
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> Its amazing how many people around here didn't
> want Manning when he was a free agent.


Manning has been to ONE Superbowl. As good as he is statistically, he's had a habit of choking towards the end of big games. So, don't expect it's just a foregone conclusion that Denver is going to the Superbowl.

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> > Im sorry but payton manning will make a
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> Its amazing how many people around here didn't
> want Manning when he was a free agent.

last year not so much but this year he is playing lights out...16 td 0 ints in 4 games....thats nuts.

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> > receiver
> > > on crutches look good.
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> >
> >
> > Its amazing how many people around here didn't
> > want Manning when he was a free agent.
>
>
> Manning has been to ONE Superbowl. As good as he
> is statistically, he's had a habit of choking
> towards the end of big games. So, don't expect
> it's just a foregone conclusion that Denver is
> going to the Superbowl.


Brady choked against eli in the last 2 superbowls new england has been too.

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> >
> > Its amazing how many people around here didn't
> > want Manning when he was a free agent.
>
>
> Manning has been to ONE Superbowl. As good as he
> is statistically, he's had a habit of choking
> towards the end of big games. So, don't expect
> it's just a foregone conclusion that Denver is
> going to the Superbowl.


Actually...he's been to TWO super bowls. Won one and lost one.

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> last year not so much but this year he is playing
> lights out...16 td 0 ints in 4 games....thats
> nuts.

If 4600+ yards, 37 TD's, 11 Int's and a 105 passer rating, 13-3 and the #1 playoff seed in the AFC is "not so much" then SIGN ME UP for some of that!!!!

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> > last year not so much but this year he is
> playing
> > lights out...16 td 0 ints in 4 games....thats
> > nuts.
>
> If 4600+ yards, 37 TD's, 11 Int's and a 105 passer
> rating, 13-3 and the #1 playoff seed in the AFC is
> "not so much" then SIGN ME UP for some of that!!!!


lol........this year he is going to break some records.....am afraid the perfect record will be matched this year....unless he gets a really bad cold in the superbowl.

on pace for 64 tds...and 6000 plus yards...ahhhhh maybe not

still not nearly as good as when he went to ne....and watch out this year...

chren

I agree SamSam but even a rocket starts on the ground before it reaches outer space.

I have been saying that I saw the same potential in Welker when he was here.

haha ok

But SamSam, Welker aside, it is about the supporting players. I see every NOBODY I EVER HEARD OF playing for the Patriots making all kind of fantastic plays and I see all the big name Falcons BLOWING every easy play they can.

And the Pats get helped by the refs CHEATING.

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> But SamSam, Welker aside, it is about the
> supporting players. I see every NOBODY I EVER
> HEARD OF playing for the Patriots making all kind
> of fantastic plays

That what you get when you play along side of brady chren.....

Can a great QB win a superbowl every year he plays by himself? NO. But he CAN make a team competitive, relevant and a force to be reckoned with almost singlehandedly. Marino did, Elway did, Brady does, Manning does. Thats the fact most of us, who have been clamoring for years to put more effort in to finding a 'franchise' QB, have been trying to get across.

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>.....am afraid the perfect record will be
> matched this year....unless he gets a really bad
> cold in the superbowl.

Lets not get carried away, they have yet to beat a team with a winning record and Manning has a long history of starting like a house a fire then floundering. That said they have a ridiculously easy schedule early going all the way in to their bye but they have KC twice, The Titans away and the Patriots away. Like Brady, if you let a guy with that kind of experience just stand there he's going to pick you apart. All it will take to beat Denver is a team that can bring some pressure...

Right KB. Precisely! You have to blitz him more often.

I have said on this board a million times.

The Tom Brady that's going into the Hall of Fame someday is the Tom Brady safely in the pocket with ample time to scan the field.

However, if you want to see the Tom Brady THAT HAD TO WAIT UNTIL THE SIXTH ROUND TO GET DRAFTED....just pressure him in the pocket.

Guys only problem i see with this is manning has a great Oline....and great blockers overall....so i dont see people getting to him.


I hope thats not the case especially if we play them in the playoffs.

But at the same time iam afreaid it is.

most QB's are not good when they get tons of pressure. Of course if you don't get their the great ones make you pay.

errr.... They used to say of Marino the more you blitz him the worse he burns you.

Brady falls apart with pressure.