For bragging rights only....Post you first round mock's here and no corrections after 7pm on draft day.

this is always good for a laugh. I need to think about it a bit before posting mine

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berkeley223 Wrote:
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> this is always good for a laugh. I need to think
> about it a bit before posting mine

Me too

I only going to post the first overall pick...

Without a name..

I think our most pressing need right about now is???

1. Tackle

has there ever been a year where 1 week out we had NO idea who the phins would take in the 1st? I am having trouble even narrowing it down to 3 names. It could be anyone.

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berkeley223 Wrote:
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> has there ever been a year where 1 week out we had
> NO idea who the phins would take in the 1st? I am
> having trouble even narrowing it down to 3 names.
> It could be anyone.

Is that because we might trade up or down or are you just having a hard time coming up with 3 names at #12?

the trade aspects is part of it. But look at our needs.

CB---no one worth taking at 12, can't see us taking Rhodes or Trufant or one of the others, but it is a possibility

OT--ditto, unless we trade up or somoene suprising falls.

WR---can't see us taking Austin at 12

OG--I could see Cooper but he may not be there. I am actually now thinking we should take him if there.

DT--not a need but could take Star or Richardson if they fall (it is just as likely that both are there at 12, as it is neither are).

DE--Ansah? he could go in the top 5 or after 15. He is a possible.

There's just 5 or so names, any of which are equally likely.

Years past, there was also 2-3 names who you could be pretty sure would be the pick (and then Ireland would do something dumb like trade for Odrick and Misi, but that's another story).

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berkeley223 Wrote:
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> the trade aspects is part of it. But look at our
> needs.
>
> CB---no one worth taking at 12, can't see us
> taking Rhodes or Trufant or one of the others, but
> it is a possibility
>
> OT--ditto, unless we trade up or somoene suprising
> falls.
>
> WR---can't see us taking Austin at 12
>
> OG--I could see Cooper but he may not be there. I
> am actually now thinking we should take him if
> there.
>
> DT--not a need but could take Star or Richardson
> if they fall (it is just as likely that both are
> there at 12, as it is neither are).
>
> DE--Ansah? he could go in the top 5 or after 15.
> He is a possible.
>
> There's just 5 or so names, any of which are
> equally likely.
>
> Years past, there was also 2-3 names who you could
> be pretty sure would be the pick (and then Ireland
> would do something dumb like trade for Odrick and
> Misi, but that's another story).

If you take out the guys most often ticketed for the top ten there are really only 4 possibilities for us at #12.

#1 - Lane Johnson (and there is very little chance of him falling to #12)

#2 - Johnathan Cooper (Maybe a 50/50) chance of him being there.

#3 - Tyler Eifert (pretty sure he'll be there)

#4 - a DT like Richardson or Loutelelei.

the 5th option would be if a guy like Miliner falls for some medical reason or some other strange reason. But that's not something you can count on, you just adust on the fly if it happens.

So take out option #1 since its highly unlikely Johnson drops past 7 let alone past 10 and 11.

Like wise option #5 since you can't predict who will fall unexpectedly or how far.


That leaves you: Cooper, Eifert and Loutelelei/Richardson.

Probably in that order.



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and of those who do you want?

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berkeley223 Wrote:
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> and of those who do you want?


Cooper or Eifert, in that order.

If both are gone I'd trade down.

I am on board with that.

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berkeley223 Wrote:
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> I am on board with that.


I'd definitely trade our later 2nd for Albert if we took Eifert.

I'd still consider it if we took Cooper.

I probably wouldn't do it if we traded down since I'd probably target Melenek Watson in the 20's.



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Work in progress

1. Kansas City - Eric Fisher, Central Michigan, OT
2. Arizona (via Jacksonville) - Luke Joeckel, Texas A&M, LT
3. Detroit (via Oakland) - Lane Johnson, Oklahoma, OT
4. Philadelphia - Dion Jordan, Oregon, DE/LB
5. Oakland (via Detroit) - Star Lotulelei, Utah, DT
6. Tennessee (via Cleveland) - Dee Milliner, Ala, CB
7. Jacksonville - Sharrif Floyd, Florida, DT
8. SF (via Buffalo) - Tavon Austin, West Virginia, WR
9. New York Jets - Barkevious Mingo, LSU, DE
10. Cleveland (thru Ten) - Chance Warmack, Alabama, G
11. San Diego - DJ Fluker, Alabama, RT
12. Miami - Tyler Eifert, ND, TE
13. New York Jets- Xavier Rhodes, FSU, CB
14. Carolina - Sheldon Richardson, Missouri, DT
15. Atlanta (via New Orleans) - Ezekiel "Ziggy" Ansah, BYU, DE/LB
16. St. Louis - Kenny Vaccaro, Texas, S
17. Pittsburgh - Jonathan Cooper, North Carolina, G
18. Dallas - Alec Ogeltree, Georgia, LB
19. New York Giants - Matt Elam, UF, S
20. Chicago - Sylvester Williams, UNC, DT
21. Cincinnati - Jarvis Jones, Georgia, LB
22. Philly (thru St. Louis) - Geno Smith, West Virginia, QB
23. Minnesota - DJ Hayden, CB
24. Indianapolis - Manti Teo, ND, LB
25. Cleveland (thru Minnesota) - Matt Barkley
26. Green Bay - Eddie Lacy, Alabama, RB
27. Houston - Keenan Allen, Cal, WR
28. Denver - Desmond Trufant, Was, CB
29. New England - Bjoern Werner, FSU, DE
30. New Orleans (thru Atlanta) - Menelik Watson, FSU, LT
31. Buffalo (thru SF) - Ryan Nassib, QB
32. Baltimore - Cordarrelle Patterson, Tennessee, WR

Dropped...

Zach Ertz, Stanford, TE
Tank Carradine, FSU, DE

I think there is going to be so much movement in this draft, there is no way to make an accurate prediction.

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Here's my run at it.

I think it was harder this year than ever before,


**** updated


1. Kansas City – Eric Fisher, LT – C. Michigan
2. Jacksonville – Dion Jordan, OLB - Oregon
3. Oakland – Ziggy Ansah, DE - BYU
4. Philadelphia – Lane Johnson, OT - Oklahoma
5. Detroit – Dee Milliner, CB - Alabama
6. Cleveland – Geno Smith, QB - WVU
7. Arizona – Luke Joeckel, OT Texas A&M
8. Buffalo – Ryan Nassib, QB - Syracuse
9. New York Jets – Chance Warmack, OG - Alabama
10. Tennessee – Star Lotuleile, DT - Utah
11. San Diego – DJ Fluker, OT - Alabama
12. Miami - Tyler Eifert, TE – ND
13. NY Jets – Tavon Austin, WR - WVU
14. Carolina – Sharif Floyd, DT - Florida
15. New Orleans - Barkevious Mingo, OLB – LSU
16. St. Louis – Johnathan Cooper, OG - UNC
17. Pittsburgh – Jarvis Jones, OLB - Georgia
18. Dallas – Kenny Vaccaro, FS – Texas
19. New York Giants – Sheldon Richardson, DT Missouri
20. Chicago – Justin Pugh, OT - Syracuse
21. Cincinnati – Alec Ogeltree, LB - Georgia
22. St. Louis – Menelik Watson, OT – Florida
23. Minnesota – Manti Te’o – MLB – ND
24. Indianapolis – Justin Hunter, WR - Tennessee
25. Minnesota – Cordarelle Patterson, WR – Tennessee
26. Green Bay – DJ Hayden, CB - Houston
27. Houston – Kyle Long, OL - Oregon
28. Denver – Matt Elam, FS Florida
29. New England – Deandre Hopkins, WR - Clemson
30. Atlanta – Zach Ertz, TE – Stanford
31. San Francisco – Xavier Rhodes, CB – FSU
32. Baltimore – Bjoern Werner, DE - FSU



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Just revised mine AGAIN. My head is spinning. Way too much going on this year!

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matt barkley at 2?? matt barkley? at 2??
really truth?

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berkeley223 Wrote:
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> matt barkley at 2?? matt barkley? at 2??
> really truth?

LOL...now I know its a good pick.

You were killing me 3 months ago about Eric Fisher and Dion Jordan...

I really didn't have any time to spend on this this year so I went the maximum gamble route.

Lets just say I bought into the idea that its a QB league. Its a draft without impact players at the top. If I'm a GM without a QB, would I rather miss on a QB or miss on another position?

Honestly, I usually look at what the other teams need. This year I didn't bother. Just winged it. I'll either have the best or worst mock out there...no in between.

ok here's my attempt. I stopped at 15 bc it's really just throwing darts at that point


1 . KC Luke Joeckel

2. Jax Dion Jordan

3. OAK Eric Fisher

4. PHI Dee Millner

5. DET Lane Johnson

6. CLE Sharrif Floyd

7. AZ Chance Warmack

8. BUF R Nassib

9. NYJ T Eifert

10. TEN Star Letulei

11. SD DJ Fluker

12. CAR (trade w MIA, Mia gets 3d rounder, gives a 5th rounder) T Austin

13. NYJ B Mingo

14. MIA DJ Hayden

15. NO J Cooper


This trade with CAR would give us two 2s and three 3s, and makes a trade for Albert, or a package to get higher up later in the draft, more palatable

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Well, you're all better than me cause I couldn't even possibly pick what Miami is gonna do, let alone all 31 other teams or even what KC is gonna do at no. 1, although I've heard Luke's name mentioned the most for them.

Ryan Nassib at 8? Ryan Nassib? at 8?? Really berk? lol

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nassib sucks but I think Marrone will draft his college QB.

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1. Kansas City - Luke Joeckel, Texas A&M, LT
2. Jacksonville - Eric Fisher, Central Michigan, OT
3. Oakland - Sharrif Floyd, Florida, DT
4. Philadelphia - Geno Smith, West Virginia, QB
5. Detroit - Ezekiel "Ziggy" Ansah, BYU, DE/LB
6. Cleveland - Tavon Austn, West Virginia WR
7. Arizona - Chance Warmack, Alabama, G
8. Buffalo - Dion Jordan, Oregon, DE/LB
9. New York Jets - Barkevious Mingo, LSU, DE
10. Tennessee - Jonathan Cooper, North Carolina, G
11. San Diego - Lane Johnson, Oklahoma, OT
12. Miami - Sheldon Richardson, Missouri, DT Tyler Eifert, ND, TE
13. New York Jets - Dee Milliner, Alabama, CB
14. Carolina - Alec Ogletree, LB, Georgia
15. San Fran (via New Orleans) - Star Lotulelei, Utah, DT
16. St. Louis - DJ Fluker, Alabama, RT
17. Pittsburgh - Manti Teo, LB, Notre Dame
18. Dallas - Jarvis Jones, Georgia, LB
19. New York Giants - Cordarrelle Patterson, Tennessee, WR
20. Chicago - Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame
21. Cincinnati - Kenny Vaccaro, Texas, S
22. St. Louis - Keenan Allen, Cal, WR
23. Minnesota - Xavier Rhodes, FSU, CB
24. Indianapolis - Justin Pugh, OG/OT Syracuse
25. Minnesota - Bjoern Werner, FSU, DE
26. Green Bay - Matt Elam, UF, S
27. Houston - Justin Hunter, Tennessee, WR
28. Denver - Marcus Trufant, Was, CB
29. New England - Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama
30. Atlanta - Desmond Trufant, Was, CB
31. San Francisco - Sylvester Williams, UNC, DT
32. Baltimore - DJ Swearinger, S, SC