There is like more than 2 minutes left in the game and they are like inside the 10 yard line and they throw three (or is it four, I think four) incomplete passes.

Even had they scored on anyone of those passes, they would have had less than a field goal lead. The score was 34-29.


You only hope is to run as much clock as you can and make the Ravens use their timeouts to MINIMIZE the clock and timeouts THEY have for a comeback.

When you throw passes, complete or incomplete, you keep the maximum amount of time on the clock. Even if you score a touchdown, the score is now 36 (maybe 37 if you go for a 2 point conversion) to 34 and you are leaving time for them to either tie or go ahead with a field goal.

Moreover, San Francisco is far more of a run option team than a passing team. I just don't understand and for once in my life, I want to hear people contradict my position because I just plain cannot figure out for the life of me what their reasoning was.

Bad red zone play calling. The one good play they could have scored on Harbaugh called the timeout!

That was a pass interference in the end zone, but refs didn't have the stones to call that one

Replay of Bettis' retirement party with bad ref calls

jlyell13 Wrote:
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>
> That was a pass interference in the end zone, but
> refs didn't have the stones to call that one
>
>


It was holding or PI, BUT the receiver also pushed off the defender. Pushed him right in the helmet. So it could have been offsetting fouls.

I hate that Head Official! He always presides over a one-sided penalty called game.

If you taped that game, go back and look at EVEN when the punter was running around taking a safety. You can see a Raven basically BEAR HUGGING a 49er trying to bring him down and NO INTERFERENCE CALLED.

That guy is either crooked or ......well, I can't come up with another excuse for him calling one sided games but HIS CREWS ALWAYS CALLS ONE SIDED GAMES.

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> I hate that Head Official! He always presides
> over a one-sided penalty called game.
>
> If you taped that game, go back and look at EVEN
> when the punter was running around taking a
> safety. You can see a Raven basically BEAR
> HUGGING a 49er trying to bring him down and NO
> INTERFERENCE CALLED.
>

I saw the bear hug too. They didn't call interference because it was a punting play, not a pass. They should have called HOLDING. Holding, in the end zone, is a safety. That was the result of the play anyway, but this would have put a few more seconds on the clock, true.


> That guy is either crooked or ......well, I can't
> come up with another excuse for him calling one
> sided games but HIS CREWS ALWAYS CALLS ONE SIDED
> GAMES.

Actually that was a mis-type that I'm just seeing now. I was thinking holding. Obviously. A bear hug.

Also there was a lot of shots to the faces between the players....And they let it go. I guess because it was the superbowl.

I bet you many of those would had been 15 yard penalties in the regular season.

THAT'S RIGHT! THAT'S RIGHT! THAT'S RIGHT, DOLPHIN!!!!!!

I'D do the same thing. I can't figure these NFL coaches out!!

Why don't they think the same way?

The roll-out pass run option allows you to see which one is more makeable.

I can't stand it.

Like you say, the Dolphins are FAMOUS FOR IT.

They either CLEARLY TELEGRAPH A PASS OR EVEN A RUN BY BUNCHING UP WHILE THE RUNNING BACKS EYES ARE RIVETED ON THE RUNNING LANES.

And another thing..............

Think back on the intentional safety.

Let's suppose you are John Harbaugh.

BTW, I went back and looked. The 9ers had 1st and goal from the 7 and they DID run a running play on the first down for two yards. From then on out, it was THREE PASSES.

What I would have done is on 2nd and 3rd down, run the ball with a run pass option.

BUT I THINK JOHN'S eyes lit up when he saw the pass on 2nd down.

He didn't have to burn a timeout!

I'll bet any amount of money that with the score 34 to 29, had that run on FIRST DOWN got any closer or had the second down run got to the 3 yard line, .........................................

here's where I'm gonna get jumped on by you guys.............

If I'm John Harbaugh, I think seriously about the old "concede the touchdown and play for the winning field goal."

Risky as hell but even if that wouldn't have happened, the point is that Jim Harbaugh did everything that John Harbaugh could have wanted....he kept the clock from running.

Even if one of those passes had worked and the 9ers had scored a touchdown, NOW SF 36 BALT 34, the Ravens would have had MAXIMUM TIME (about 2 minutes) for a drive to kick a winning field goal. You don't do that unless you have just given up on the run.

Jim Harbaugh was a player but John's whole experience has been in coaching? Is that true?

If so, it showed.

JC Wrote:
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> jlyell13 Wrote:
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> >
> > That was a pass interference in the end zone,
> but
> > refs didn't have the stones to call that one
> >
> >
>
>
> It was holding or PI, BUT the receiver also pushed
> off the defender. Pushed him right in the helmet.
> So it could have been offsetting fouls.

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Maybe JC, but that ball was thrown immediately and the Balt defender had a hold of Crabtree as soon as he got off the line. That equals PI, if not holding.

Should have been a penalty.

dolphin Wrote:
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> I hate when teams go into shotgun inside the 10
> yard line. The play action pass for the TD is the
> EASIEST play in football. If you go into shotgun
> you pretty much are telling the other team you are
> passing... HATE IT!
>
> I scream at the TV when the Dolphins do that.

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Not to argue with ya, dolphin, but San Fran runs out of the pistol a lot, and there are a lot of running plays with it.

A couple of years ago, yeah, your statement would have been correct; but not in today's football.

But these were straight drop back passes, dolphin, not the pistol option.

captkoi Wrote:
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> > jlyell13 Wrote:
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> >
> > >
> > > That was a pass interference in the end zone,
> > but
> > > refs didn't have the stones to call that one
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > It was holding or PI, BUT the receiver also
> pushed
> > off the defender. Pushed him right in the
> helmet.
> > So it could have been offsetting fouls.
>
> **************************************************
> *
>
> Maybe JC, but that ball was thrown immediately and
> the Balt defender had a hold of Crabtree as soon
> as he got off the line. That equals PI, if not
> holding.
>
> Should have been a penalty.


OK, PI, not holding. Now what about the receiver pushing off the defender's helmet? That's not a penalty too?

He was in the shotgun. You don't see the play action pass for a TD out of shotgun inside the redzone. The teams that are getting that are the teams that lineup with the QB under center.

easy TD week after week all across the NFL.

JC Wrote:
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> captkoi Wrote:
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> > JC Wrote:
> >
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>
> > -----
> > > jlyell13 Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > >
> > > >
> > > > That was a pass interference in the end
> zone,
> > > but
> > > > refs didn't have the stones to call that
> one
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It was holding or PI, BUT the receiver also
> > pushed
> > > off the defender. Pushed him right in the
> > helmet.
> > > So it could have been offsetting fouls.
> >
> >
> **************************************************
>
> > *
> >
> > Maybe JC, but that ball was thrown immediately
> and
> > the Balt defender had a hold of Crabtree as
> soon
> > as he got off the line. That equals PI, if not
> > holding.
> >
> > Should have been a penalty.
>
>
> OK, PI, not holding. Now what about the receiver
> pushing off the defender's helmet? That's not a
> penalty too?

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I really didn't see it so much as him pushing off the defender's helmet. Crabtree was being held and was attempting to get loose. It is rare (especially in the Super Bowl) to have a PI on offense, unless it is very obvious. In this instance (IMO) it wasn't very obvious.

But again, when the ball is in the air and the defender is holding on, it a penalty against the D. Wasn't called.

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> And another thing..............
>
> Think back on the intentional safety.
>
> Let's suppose you are John Harbaugh.
>
> BTW, I went back and looked. The 9ers had 1st and
> goal from the 7 and they DID run a running play on
> the first down for two yards. From then on out,
> it was THREE PASSES.
>
> What I would have done is on 2nd and 3rd down, run
> the ball with a run pass option.
>

Second down was a read option.

The QB makes that call, and he tried to throw.

I think that was the play where if he ran, he woud have had a TD. The entire Baltimore defense - all 11 players were bunched up in the short side of the field. If Kapernick runs the other way, with his speed it would have been an easy TD. That was on Kapernick.

Third and long - you've got to pass.

I heard the forth down play was an Audible. I think that was a rookie mistake.

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