Next year is gonna be a mess, we have alot of our core starting players that are in contract year. Starks, long, bush, mcdaniels, Hartline, Sean smith, Clemons, just to name a few..

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only good news is we should have a lot of cap space next year. bad news is ireland will probably be around to f it up.

crowder, the players you named as "core" players at all really average and should be replacable by better players without much problem. only one you named who is a great player is long, and we should be able to extend him before the year is out. of course that is what a competent team would do so who knows.....

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mark, you should write an article explaining how we've been doing a great job with the cap.

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Hey we got a second rd pick for a first rd 25 year old, and we are paying him a couple million or so the next couple years in dead money to play for the colts.. We are paying our #1 wr some dead money to play for the bears after we gave up 2 seconds for 2 thirds.. If that doesn't reak of brilliance and intelligence I don't know what does...

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> mark, you should write an article explaining how
> we've been doing a great job with the cap.

I never said we were doing a great job. But, two examples in this article show that whoever wrote it is doing armchair analysis without knowing the details.

You play in the field of free agency, and you are going to have cap issues. The best run teams don't do much of that. But, people around here want us to do more of that. Every year, when free agency hits, there is post after post with suggestions of which 5-7 big name free agents we should sign. And then those same people complain about cap management, not understanding that free agency is what leads to cap issues.

Berk- long, bush, starks are all great players, everybody else is currently a starter or one of the best we currently have at their given positions.. That is alot of money to pay or spots to fill in one year..u think ireland can upgrade all of those positions in one year, that is scary..what position besides maybe qb in the long run did we improve on from last year...

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> u think ireland can upgrade
> all of those positions in one year, that is
> scary..


Ireland couldn't upgrade all those positions in 5 years. That is the problem - he is very poor at talent evaluation.

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> Berk- long, bush, starks are all great players,
> everybody else is currently a starter or one of
> the best we currently have at their given
> positions.. That is alot of money to pay or spots
> to fill in one year..u think ireland can upgrade
> all of those positions in one year, that is
> scary..what position besides maybe qb in the long
> run did we improve on from last year...


yes but they are all average. we can replace all but long with almost anybody with very little drop off.

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Nice rebuttal D-mark, but the masses don't want to hear anything that doesn't support their belief that the Dolphins are the worst run team in the NFL.

Also, I doubt Reggie Bush is brought back next year for anything more then a "hometown discount". Gettin up there in age for a smallish back, and Miller was brought in to replace him.

holic, our team is horrible and our cap is at the bottom of the league. that's pretty strong evidence right there

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> holic, our team is horrible and our cap is at the
> bottom of the league. that's pretty strong
> evidence right there


If it's that bad (the cap not the team) then how could we be projected to be 40 Mil under it next year?

great, and we only need to suffer thru another last place season to get there

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Because some many players contract are up is why we're are so far under for next year. That cap does not include eight to ten starters income, or new contracts... Next year will be the true rebuilding year, with the amount of contracts that are up and the stockpile of drafts picks so far.

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when I look at the starters/core players listed, I don't think that many of them will command a ton of money to re-sign...if we even want to resign them. Long may command a huge contract, but I'm not convinced LT deserves 10%+ of a team's cap any more. Bush? Teams aren't doling out huge cash to 28-year old backs. Starks? I don't know, maybe a short contract for $5 mill/yr like he has made the past 5 years. He's been very good and consistent, but he is getting older. Clemons? He'd have to really light the world on fire to be worth a whole lot more than vet minimum. My hope is that we upgrade him next year, but he could surprise me. McDaniel - valuable part of the DL rotation, but wouldn't spend more than a couple million/yr on a short new contract. If Hartline breaks out a la Jordy Nelson in his 4th year, then he could command a large contract. With a rookie QB, I think his odds of doing that are somewhat slim. Sean Smith could cash in on an a huge year if he puts it together. We might have a tough decision if he does but he's about the only one on the list I see
as a real possibility of legitimately impacting a big portion of that $40 million in cap space.

GB, Giants, Pitt, etc. were built through the draft, primarily. The draft is now an even cheaper way of building than it was before. It remains to be seen whether Ireland can build through the draft according to Philbin's blueprint, but we currently have 5 of the top 90 picks (and 3 of those could be perhaps in the top 40-ish). I can envision a scenario where we have a younger, more talented & less expensive roster after the 2013 draft than we have now.

If you'd like to see an example of real cap mismanagement (in my humble opinion), view the 2013 cap page for the Jets where they have $140 million committed and would face a TON of dead money if they do anything drastic with folks at the top of the scale.

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> Because some many players contract are up is why
> we're are so far under for next year. That cap
> does not include eight to ten starters income, or
> new contracts... Next year will be the true
> rebuilding year, with the amount of contracts that
> are up and the stockpile of drafts picks so far.


Coming off back to back 7-9 seasons, isn't this a good thing? I'm still missing the point of this article, and i'm not being a smart-ass or blindly defending Ireland, but when changing both OFF/DEF schemes with a new regime in place, this seems like the ideal situation, no?

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> Crowder52 Wrote:
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> > Because some many players contract are up is
> why
> > we're are so far under for next year. That cap
> > does not include eight to ten starters income,
> or
> > new contracts... Next year will be the true
> > rebuilding year, with the amount of contracts
> that
> > are up and the stockpile of drafts picks so
> far.
>
>
> Coming off back to back 7-9 seasons, isn't this a
> good thing? I'm still missing the point of this
> article, and i'm not being a smart-ass or blindly
> defending Ireland, but when changing both OFF/DEF
> schemes with a new regime in place, this seems
> like the ideal situation, no?


The "ideal situation" Are you living in some opposite planet where the "ideal situation" is that we perpetually suck?

Ireland got us into this situation. He got us to back to back 7-9 season, and now a season that looks like it may be worse. Followed by a rebuilding year.

And you call this ideal?

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It's not ideal that we're rebuilding yet again, but make no mistake, we are rebuilding this whole team top to bottom, the fact that we'll have 40 mil in cap space and a boat-load of picks next year.......seems pretty ideal to me.

Dolph- it means we dont have alot of talent, and we need to secure that much upgraded talent in one year. It just doesnt seem like a good situation to me...how many positions were we able to upgrade this year? Maybe QB, maybe RT.... How many went backwards, CB, WR. We seem to have as many positions going backwards as we do forwards so to speak, almost every year since 08... How many positions next year, will be getting better and how many will be getting worse, and how many will Ireland truly be able to solve in one year....to give us a positive gain, so we are getting better.

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weren't we 6-10, not 7-9 last year

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> weren't we 6-10, not 7-9 last year


Lets just assume you are right.

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good idea

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dear Mr. Berk person,

I think it’s fair to say when you have one of the higher salary cap binds and lower performing products something isn’t quite isn’t quite right in that equation.

Salary cap management is a BIG part of being a successful franchise nowadaze and I agree the FA money hole proves to be a loser pretty much 9 times out of 10.

First, you need a stable, highly productive cornerstone @ QB. Maybe (???) we’ve finally got that most critical part installed.

Second, you need to continually infuse your footie ball machine (the Lady in NE loves that part) with upwardly mobile young footie ballers with professional demeanors and BAD intentions!

Third, you need to use filtered water to make ice for a really good, and reasonably healthy, vodka martini.

Last, if you’re really lucky, your BFF team makes it all the way to the Stupid Bowl and you live long enough to actually see it!

Have an incredible Tuesday!

BNF. Yet still sober.

and unlike good teams we have barely any cap space devoted to the QB position, and yet despite spending all of our money on them the other positions still stink

if RT has the goods we will have him for cheap the next few years so no year when we have cap room hopefully we can spend on players who don't suck for a change

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OK. And then there were 3...

Just keep in mind, all BS aside, we're NOT that far behind.

Like I said:

We gotta have a cornerstone @QB 1st for the program to make any sense... If you have a QB "they will come!"

Yes?

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> We gotta have a cornerstone @QB 1st for the
> program to make any sense... If you have a QB
> "they will come!"
>


It amazes me how anyone can label a QB that has yet to take a regular season snap, and looked horrible in preseason a "cornerstone".

I'd like to see RT do something.

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well in fairness BNF said we gotta "have" one, not that we do. we will know more after this season. if RT is a franchise QB, we are in good shape with a ton of cap space and draft picks. if not, well here we go again....

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berkeley223 Wrote:
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> well in fairness BNF said we gotta "have" one, not
> that we do. we will know more after this season.
> if RT is a franchise QB, we are in good shape with
> a ton of cap space and draft picks. if not, well
> here we go again....


Right. I read all the posts that talk about RT being a franchise QB and it just seems that is what everyone is saying.

But my point still stands, we don't know a thing about RT yet.

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