Thank goodness.

dunno, hearing conflicting reports. getting mri for possible sprained mcl. not a tear but still not "nothing" as ben volin reported (shefter is reporting the mri and i take his word over anyones)

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Yes, but I was fearful of a long term injury. That would have changed a lot regarding the future too.

He seems injury prone in his later years.

We never draft great players and when we finnaly do.............They are injury prone. Wow.

I am seeing reports that it is a sprained mcl for Jake Long

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RT is going to get killed. Hicks is not good.

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Why does it seem we're always juggling the O-Line!!!??? Geez. It seems we've had injury prone O-Linemen ever since Parcells got here. Not just Long. Remember Jake Grove and Justin Smiley?

Despite the reservations of some who questioned it in the article, Philbin is making the right move by shifting Martin, until Long returns, to the left tackle.

It gives him a crucial opportunity to compare Martin's performances at both positions and determine whether his relatively poor performances were due to either

a) coming to the Pros from college or


b) shifting from left tackle to right tackle.

People on this board have argued with me that the problem is only a) and that all rookies have an initial problem doing b that fades away.

Well, if he goes by to STANFORD ALL CONFERENCE FORM in this next pre season game, then it will show that it probably was more b than a.

ya know the "funny" thing is...

I believe Martin is more "athletic" than Long and probably a better LT than RT. And Long's "game" has always been more suited to the traditional RT position - tho he's too broken down at this point and probably can't jack the juice the way he used to.

BigNastyFish Wrote:
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> ya know the "funny" thing is...
>
> I believe Martin is more "athletic" than Long and
> probably a better LT than RT. And Long's "game"
> has always been more suited to the traditional RT
> position - tho he's too broken down at this point
> and probably can't jack the juice the way he used
> to.

I think if you go back and look at the combine results, you will find that Long is much more athletic than Martin. That, of course, is if Long's injuries haven't diminished his athleticism.

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Despite the reservations of some who questioned it
> in the article, Philbin is making the right move
> by shifting Martin, until Long returns, to the
> left tackle.
>
> It gives him a crucial opportunity to compare
> Martin's performances at both positions and
> determine whether his relatively poor performances
> were due to either
>
> a) coming to the Pros from college or
>
>
> b) shifting from left tackle to right tackle.
>
> People on this board have argued with me that the
> problem is only a) and that all rookies have an
> initial problem doing b that fades away.
>
> Well, if he goes by to STANFORD ALL CONFERENCE
> FORM in this next pre season game, then it will
> show that it probably was more b than a.

if long is only going to be out 1 week, then it is the wrong move to flip him. Martin needs all the reps he can get at RT. We already know he cam play LT, he did it for 3 years in college. Now if Long is going to be out for a long period of time, the move Martin to LT since he is likely to be better there now, given his experience. Bottom line is as long as Long can play, he is the LT on this team so we better get Martin ready to play RT, which means giving him reps

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BERK, the problem with your position is that it is premised on the argument that ONLY ONE WEEK IN A PRESEASON GAME AT LEFT TACKLE will IRREPARABLY injure Jonathan Martin's progression in the pros in learning right tackle.

I don't think that is probable.

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> BERK, the problem with your position is that it is
> premised on the argument that ONLY ONE WEEK IN A
> PRESEASON GAME AT LEFT TACKLE will IRREPARABLY
> injure Jonathan Martin's progression in the pros
> in learning right tackle.
>
> I don't think that is probable.

Agreed. If Long is only out one week, then one week of reps for Martin at LT won't hurt him. If Long is out longer than one week, then we need Martin at LT during that time. Switching him is the right move unless the coaches are 100% sure that Long will be ready for week 1 and I don't think that is the case.

Isnt martin original position the left tackle position...

Maybe he plays better here....Because he is definetely playing like crap on the right side T position.

If he deosnt play better then RT blindside is in jeopardy....And i rather see RT get sacked when he knows is coming as opposed to from the blindside.


IMO more injuries come from the blindside when you do not know its coming....

Overall IMO RT is in trouble if long is out for a while.

He'll be out of shape when he gets back. You can't do crap with a sprained MCL. Its going to be a long year

CDB quote:Its going to be a long year


No doubt!