I see a lot of Dolphins fans talking about the WCO like it is the solution to all ills. I don't get it.

Over the last 15 years, about 1/4 of the teams in the NFL run the offense, or some varient. Yet I look at the teams that won Super Bowls over that time frame, and I only see 3 teams that won with it - Green Bay twice, and Tampa Bay once.

Statistically, there is nothing to support the fact that the West Coast Offense is any better than any other offense in the NFL.

What I can say about the WCO is that its easy to remember the name. Its a nice brand. Its the Coca Cola of football offenses. But its not like we are getting an automatic perennial winner.

Honestly, I think most people who talk about the WCO don't know much more about the offense than its name. But its easy for one to throw out the name and sound like they know something.

what does WCO mean?

WCO = Why Change (the) Offense

answer .. cause it sucked last year

In a more serious response ... I think if you look more generically at what used to be WCO and include all it variants in today's world you have many other teams that use similar scheme tactics whether you call it WCO or not.

Example NE uses a pass happy offense that spreads the ball around a lot, uses tight ends in the passing game more than traditional offenses did, and at times employs a no huddle up-tempo pace.

I think it will be more fun that what we've seen lately

Denver didn't run a form of it?

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

Philly went.

But really, it doesn't matter what offense you run.

It matters the QB you have.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

Phinjim Wrote:
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> In a more serious response ... I think if you look
> more generically at what used to be WCO and
> include all it variants in today's world you have
> many other teams that use similar scheme tactics
> whether you call it WCO or not.
>
> Example NE uses a pass happy offense that spreads
> the ball around a lot, uses tight ends in the
> passing game more than traditional offenses did,
> and at times employs a no huddle up-tempo pace.
>
> I think it will be more fun that what we've seen
> lately

The WCO is Pass Happy, Uptempo? What are you talking about?

I think you are confusing WCO with the Run and Shoot varient run by the Jim Kelly vintage Buffalo Bills.

Look at the benchmark for any WCO - the 80's and 90's 49ers. The play calling in of itself is boring as all heck. Its run, run, pass with the occasional pass, run, pass thrown in. And passes were almost always short. No huddle? They didn't do no huddle unless it was in the last two minutes.

What made the 49ers WCO exciting was Roger Craig and Jerry Rice. Craig always picked the right hole, and always moved the chains forward. Rice ran perfect routes, caught everything thrown his way, and would occasionally break for big time YAC. They won because of execution, not because of the WCO.

If a team don't have the players or the execution, then they got nothing. WCO won't change that.

We don't have the players right now, and so all these people throwing around how great the WCO will makes us are just talking about nothing they know about - which might as well be nothing.

Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> But really, it doesn't matter what offense you
> run.

Agree.

>
> It matters the QB you have.

Too bad we won't know about that for another two years.

Who knows if we currently have the right QB on the roster or not (which would be the case with any new offense we would run), but one thing is for sure, over the last few decades, the WCO has produced some of the best QBs of our time; Montana, Young, Favre and Rodgers come to mind as all time greats.

Phinjim Wrote:
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> Example NE uses a pass happy offense that spreads
> the ball around a lot, uses tight ends in the
> passing game more than traditional offenses did,
> and at times employs a no huddle up-tempo pace.


Example NE? Belichick learned from Parcells, when they won their superbowls, they ran a Erhardt-Perkins offensive system. Which Belichick learned from Parcells.... As time went on the offensive got more spread out, and has a spread offense variant... Same Offense the Steelers ran under Cowher... The giants also run a modified version of it... It is a smashmouth, ball control, time of possession principals...
And as Dolfan King mentioned it has similar pricipals to the run and shoot...
We are switching out and away from that system and into a WCO offense...
And as A&O said the QB is the difference between success and failure of a system...

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/12/2012 05:26AM by Crowder52.

It means Reggie Bush is not rushing for 1000 yds..........more like YAC.

Good point, Treasure.

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> It means Reggie Bush is not rushing for 1000
> yds..........more like YAC.


I'd like to see him do a Roger Craig and go 1000/1000.

Crowder52 Wrote:
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> And as A&O said the QB is the difference between
> success and failure of a system...

Yup. Can he make a quick decision and throw accurately in traffic. Because that is what a good WCO QB does... throws quick, short, and accurate.

Gerrard may be the guy here.

Read the article.

JC snipped the relavent response so think what you want.

Short passes, up tempo passing sets up the rest. Not here to argue, nothing said wasn't spot on.