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who is our MLB in the 4-3?
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: May 07, 2012 10:07AM

and have the played that position effectively before?

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Re: who is our MLB in the 4-3?
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: May 07, 2012 10:20AM

We don't have one, as far as I know.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/07/2012 10:20AM by montequi.

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Re: who is our MLB in the 4-3?
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: May 07, 2012 11:00AM

We dont have one with it on their resume.

That doesn't mean we don't have one. Just means that job is an open competition.

I think it will be either dansby or crowder and it will be the one who who is the worst option outside.

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Re: who is our MLB in the 4-3?
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: May 07, 2012 11:11AM

well, since apparently we played 4-3 a lot last year, someone had to have done it. I just can't recall who. 4-3 MLBs are supposed to be sideline to sideline zach thomas types but I can't envision anyone like that on our team. I guess it was Burnett?

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Re: who is our MLB in the 4-3?
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: May 07, 2012 11:15AM

IF Dansby is in shape and healthy, he can be effective in the position. He also got some practice last year, calling the defense, which he hadnt done before. Burnett, struggled in the position, when Dansby was out, and also his bggest weakness, is getting his legs taken out from underneath him alot and subsequently taken out of the play alot last year. That is not a good trait for a MLB. When Dansby played well, Burnett vastly improved his play on the field.

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Re: who is our MLB in the 4-3?
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: May 07, 2012 11:19AM

Berk, to play in the middle, you have to be effective at shedding blocks and getting off of guys that try and tie you up or knock you off your feet. Zach was so football smart, as well as little and quick, not fast, that offensive players couldnt get a hold of him very often... He reacted before they had a chance to stop him...

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Re: who is our MLB in the 4-3?
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: May 07, 2012 11:41AM

THE Truth Wrote:
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> We dont have one with it on their resume.
>
> That doesn't mean we don't have one. Just means
> that job is an open competition.
>
> I think it will be either dansby or crowder and it
> will be the one who who is the worst option
> outside.

Crowder? Really? I figured Zach Thomas would play inside. lol

It will be determined in training camp. The worst option outside? why is that? because outside in a 43 is more important than MLB? I don't think see it that way. That maybe the case in a 3-4 but not a 4-3.

I've heard Dansby or possibly Misi getting a look inside or at SLB. IMO we will put the best 3 on the field. That could be Burnett, Dansby and Misi. That would allow us to also put the best possible front 7 on the field.

It may come down to the LDE battle and how the rookie does.

I see it this way....(assuming rookie DE needs time)

WDE Wake
SDE Odrick
DT Soliai (base) Mc Daniel (passing)
DT Starks

SLB Misi
MLB Dansby
WLB Burnett

Dansby and Burnett are almost interchangeable b/c they both have decent speed and can cover TE's. Dansby is making the big bucks so he should be the leader at Mike assuming he finally plays up to his contract and shows up in shape this year.

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Re: who is our MLB in the 4-3?
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: May 07, 2012 01:17PM

eesti Wrote:
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> THE Truth Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > We dont have one with it on their resume.
> >
> > That doesn't mean we don't have one. Just
> means
> > that job is an open competition.
> >
> > I think it will be either dansby or crowder and
> it
> > will be the one who who is the worst option
> > outside.
>
> Crowder? Really? I figured Zach Thomas would play
> inside. lol
>
> It will be determined in training camp. The worst
> option outside? why is that? because outside in a
> 43 is more important than MLB? I don't think see
> it that way. That maybe the case in a 3-4 but not
> a 4-3.
>
> I've heard Dansby or possibly Misi getting a look
> inside or at SLB. IMO we will put the best 3 on
> the field. That could be Burnett, Dansby and Misi.
> That would allow us to also put the best possible
> front 7 on the field.
>
> It may come down to the LDE battle and how the
> rookie does.
>
> I see it this way....(assuming rookie DE needs
> time)
>
> WDE Wake
> SDE Odrick
> DT Soliai (base) Mc Daniel (passing)
> DT Starks
>
> SLB Misi
> MLB Dansby
> WLB Burnett
>
> Dansby and Burnett are almost interchangeable b/c
> they both have decent speed and can cover TE's.
> Dansby is making the big bucks so he should be the
> leader at Mike assuming he finally plays up to his
> contract and shows up in shape this year.


Ooops...Typo...meant Burnett...but that's what I get for doing this from my phone on the subway....
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Re: who is our MLB in the 4-3?
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: May 07, 2012 01:38PM

we've got no true MLB on the team. I was always suprised when people said we had no need to draft a MLB this year

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Re: who is our MLB in the 4-3?
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: May 07, 2012 01:42PM

I wanted Kuechly at 8, Berk.....

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Re: who is our MLB in the 4-3?
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: May 07, 2012 02:20PM

Crowder, I was quoting The Truth. You're not a two profile poster are you?

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Re: who is our MLB in the 4-3?
Posted by: dolphin1423 ()
Date: May 07, 2012 04:06PM

I don't think MLB is a great need on the team right now. Dansby is more than capable of playing MLB. Even with the hybrid defense, I doubt they will change each players responsibilities significantly. Dansby will only have have to make marginal adjustments between the 3-4 and 4-3 looks.

Think of it this way. NE switches their look from a 3-4 to 4-3 more than anyone in the league. However, each positions responsibility doesn't change much no matter the front they use. Changing responsibilities between looks will just confuse your own players when the point is to mix up fronts to confuse the offense. NE values versatile players so each guy can play two or more positions. Players may play different positions between looks but a specific position will have mostly the same responsibilities with an odd or even front in a hybrid defense.

However, this is assuming we keep predominately 3-4 responsibilities. If we change to predominately 4-3 responsibilities then there will be a bigger learning curve and we will have to see how our parts fit with that. Also, the success of the hybrid will largely depend on how versatile our front 7 can become.

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Re: who is our MLB in the 4-3?
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: May 08, 2012 03:00AM

eesti Wrote:
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> Crowder, I was quoting The Truth. You're not a two
> profile poster are you?


Eesti, I don't remotely understand what in the world you are making a reference to?

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Re: who is our MLB in the 4-3?
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: May 08, 2012 03:35AM

Sorry Crowder. Ignore that post. I must have been confused. I think my head was spinning trying to interpret another posters logic.

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Re: who is our MLB in the 4-3?
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: May 08, 2012 04:01AM

Another point I think is key....

If we are using a hybrid defense then we still need to have the same "mike" in either scheme. Dansby is currently the one who calls the defense. It would only make sense that he does the same thing in the 43.

Dansby started out at SLB in AZ. He was able to get 8 sacks at that postion season. He played SLB for 3 years before moving to the weakside where he was equally effective. He then moved to ILB in their 3-4.

Dansby (30) had 4.56 40 speed (41 vertical)
Burnett (29) had 4.63 40 speed (38 vertical)

So nice to have two good versatile LB'ers. No doubt he can play any LB'er position.

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Re: who is our MLB in the 4-3?
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Date: May 08, 2012 06:20AM


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