Unfortunately, the Patriots are not going away. Reality is that their defense did get better as the year wore on, and that does not bode well. They have over $20M in cap space, and we only have about $8M to play with. And they have two first round picks and two second round picks.

It is still a major uphill battle for us.

dolfanmark Wrote:
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> Unfortunately, the Patriots are not going away.
> Reality is that their defense did get better as
> the year wore on, and that does not bode well.
> They have over $20M in cap space, and we only have
> about $8M to play with. And they have two first
> round picks and two second round picks.
>
> It is still a major uphill battle for us.

Very true Mark.

Not too mention that they have a QB...and we don't.

dolfanmark Wrote:
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> Unfortunately, the Patriots are not going away.
> Reality is that their defense did get better as
> the year wore on, and that does not bode well.
> They have over $20M in cap space, and we only have
> about $8M to play with. And they have two first
> round picks and two second round picks.
>
> It is still a major uphill battle for us.

How do they keep getting so many frigging draft picks!!?

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> dolfanmark Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Unfortunately, the Patriots are not going away.
> > Reality is that their defense did get better as
> > the year wore on, and that does not bode well.
> > They have over $20M in cap space, and we only
> have
> > about $8M to play with. And they have two first
> > round picks and two second round picks.
> >
> > It is still a major uphill battle for us.
>
> How do they keep getting so many frigging draft
> picks!!?

Because Belechick is SMART.

They target specific players early in the draft and if that guy isn't there they trade down.

They know there really isn't much difference talent wise between the players picked at #9 and #49...unless of course you are looking for a QB...which they aren't.

Really their just a Brady injury from being a sorry ass football team.

In live press conference Brady just said his intentional grounding for a safety on their first drive WAS A JUDGEMENT CALL by the ref.

JUDGEMENT CALL? The ball wasn't within 25 yards of a receiver and it's a freakin' judgement call. lmfao.

THE Truth Wrote:
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> TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > dolfanmark Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Unfortunately, the Patriots are not going
> away.
> > > Reality is that their defense did get better
> as
> > > the year wore on, and that does not bode
> well.
> > > They have over $20M in cap space, and we only
> > have
> > > about $8M to play with. And they have two
> first
> > > round picks and two second round picks.
> > >
> > > It is still a major uphill battle for us.
> >
> > How do they keep getting so many frigging draft
> > picks!!?
>
> Because Belechick is SMART.
>
> They target specific players early in the draft
> and if that guy isn't there they trade down.
>
> They know there really isn't much difference
> talent wise between the players picked at #9 and
> #49...unless of course you are looking for a
> QB...which they aren't.


meh. he is too smart for his own good. he passess on players like clay matthews to trade down and down again when what he should be doing is packaging all those picks to trade UP once and awhile for an impact player during his SB window with brady

As it turns out that was critical unless my memory and math is wrong. Had that safety NOT been called, takeaway two points from the Giants and with 52 seconds left, then Tom Brady is trying for field goal range instead of the Hail Mary (which came uncomfortably close).

berkeley223 Wrote:
>
> meh. he is too smart for his own good. he passess
> on players like clay matthews to trade down and
> down again when what he should be doing is
> packaging all those picks to trade UP once and
> awhile for an impact player during his SB window
> with brady


This.

Come on. Let's be honest. People on this board are willing to RIGHT NOW take 1) a Matt Flynn who has, count them, one good game in all of his NFL career and 2) a Peyton Manning who is probably as damaged goods as there can be. Plus we have a Brandon Marshall that has dropped SEVEN touchdown passes this year.

Are you telling me that you wouldn't rather have Brady and Welker on the Dolphins next year if you could?

Hey! I hate the Patriots. But I'm honest. Brady is a great quarterback. The fact that he made a nail biter out of what should have been lights out with 52 seconds left on the scoreboard....how can anyone say he choked?

I'd, honestly, rather have Eli Manning.

He didn't choke, but the team sure did... so many dropped passes and such a poor job tackling all game long. It looked like the Dolphins out there! But still, the game was enjoyable to watch and the miracle comeback just missed. Congrats to the Giants on a well played Super Bowl.

Somewhere, patsfan1 has been crying all night.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> THE Truth Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > dolfanmark Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Unfortunately, the Patriots are not going
> > away.
> > > > Reality is that their defense did get
> better
> > as
> > > > the year wore on, and that does not bode
> > well.
> > > > They have over $20M in cap space, and we
> only
> > > have
> > > > about $8M to play with. And they have two
> > first
> > > > round picks and two second round picks.
> > > >
> > > > It is still a major uphill battle for us.
> > >
> > > How do they keep getting so many frigging
> draft
> > > picks!!?
> >
> > Because Belechick is SMART.
> >
> > They target specific players early in the draft
> > and if that guy isn't there they trade down.
> >
> > They know there really isn't much difference
> > talent wise between the players picked at #9
> and
> > #49...unless of course you are looking for a
> > QB...which they aren't.
>
>
> meh. he is too smart for his own good. he passess
> on players like clay matthews to trade down and
> down again when what he should be doing is
> packaging all those picks to trade UP once and
> awhile for an impact player during his SB window
> with brady


That's another way to look at it.

But he knows he has Brady. Having that HOF QB is everything in this league. It allows him to take a shotgun approach to drafting instead of a single shot theory by trading up.

ChyrenB Wrote:
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>
> Are you telling me that you wouldn't rather have
> Brady and Welker on the Dolphins next year if you
> could?
>

If the price was right, yes. But Welker more than Brady, honestly. I don't particularly care for whiny QBs in their mid 30s. The guy couldn't even admit that he was at fault for the intentional grounding call. That's pathetic.



> Hey! I hate the Patriots. But I'm honest. Brady
> is a great quarterback. The fact that he made a
> nail biter out of what should have been lights out
> with 52 seconds left on the scoreboard....how can
> anyone say he choked?


I agree, it wasn't a choke performance by Brady. He threw the ball well overall.

Not to mention that the players they have on thier roster are worth, and they get, draft picks when they get rid of them because the team is winning...

Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> Somewhere, patsfan1 has been crying all night.


Nope, happy they lost as I am dolfan1

Brady didn't choke, Coems to show even with a top QB you have to catch the passes in key situations

Doesn't matter who choked, they lost and I enjoyed it.

dolfan1 Wrote:
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> Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> > Somewhere, patsfan1 has been crying all night.
>
>
> Nope, happy they lost as I am dolfan1


and this is the sum total of patsfan1's contribution today. somehow I think if the pats won we'd have gotten many many posts and threads from him about how we need to be more like the pats, and we'll never win anything while brady and bellicheat are there so I'll just ride my bike next 10 years instead of watching the phins lose

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> dolfan1 Wrote:
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> > Aqua&Orange Wrote:
> >
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>
> > -----
> > > Somewhere, patsfan1 has been crying all
> night.
> >
> >
> > Nope, happy they lost as I am dolfan1
>
>
> and this is the sum total of patsfan1's
> contribution today. somehow I think if the pats
> won we'd have gotten many many posts and threads
> from him about how we need to be more like the
> pats, and we'll never win anything while brady and
> bellicheat are there so I'll just ride my bike
> next 10 years instead of watching the phins lose

No I am confident with the new coach choice, and maybe we see Flynn there next season

brady is a great qb when he can drop 2 steps and throw it 1-5 yards. a little pressure or you take away that short crap and he's average.

as for being 20mm under the cap they still need to re-sign their best wr and 2 best pass rushers so that number is a bit inflated.

I know that's the majority of his passes Jsm08 but damn, did he win all those games all those years with the overwhelming majority of the passes being that short?