He is having the Paul Solia problem prior 2010, he isnt in shape like he should and has had problems keeping weight down . If you were to ask if Paul Solia was a bust, going into his second year most people would say yes as well... And his issues were all weight related as well.. I have been told Jerry's old lady and family life isnt doing him any favors either in helping him get back to the shape he was in when the Dolphins drafted him...Lots of Big guys play is drastically affected by weight shifts, as was Solia... I am just not sure Jerry is going to make the cut so he has a chance like Solia did on the bubble for 3+ years

ps- I am not sure if Lydon Murtha might not challenge Columbo at RT. Lydon has been getting all of Jake Longs snaps, now that Jake is back practicing I am curious if Lydons improvemens will be better then Columbo's game..

I would love Murtha to be our RT Besides some mental mistakes the guy has been solid.

The RT is easier so I mean yeahhhhhhh. Make it happen.

SOlia didnt really play at all his first 2 years, so what did you see?

Not much chance he makes team. Will follow in footsteps of Patrick Turner.

NT is much harder to come by than RG which is the easiest position to play on the line.

Rumor is Berger may be gone due to salary.

I think we add a G after roster cut downs.

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Berger should renegotiate his contract. He'd be a decent RG if he can stay healthy.

Can't all be winners. I can NOT diss the Draft picks of Late. Our defense is going to be Killer.

eesti Wrote:
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> Not much chance he makes team. Will follow in
> footsteps of Patrick Turner.
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> NT is much harder to come by than RG which is the
> easiest position to play on the line.
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> Rumor is Berger may be gone due to salary.
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> I think we add a G after roster cut downs.


Berger makes 800k, which is only $150k over the vet minimum for a player of his experience.

Yes, Jerry is a bust. As bad as he was last season, he has been worse this preseason, and that's playing against 2nd and 3rd stringers. He was still getting abused in the 4th quarters of both games. That's not good. And as you point out, RG is the easiest line position. Add it all up, and I think he has a zero percent chance of making the team.

didn't we pass on aaron hernandez for jerry?

I dont consider any player drafted after the 2nd round a bust.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

I would disagree with that AO. certain positions should be at least passable NFL players when taken in the 3d round. I'd put OG in that group. if we're talking QB, CB, something like that, I'd tend to agree with you. We've whiffed on a lot of 3d and 4th round guards lately.

We obviously cannot scout OL for crap. Long was a no-brainer pick in the sense he was a virtual guarantee to be a solid player. And maybe Pouncey is the real deal, but that is not decided yet.

So it looks like Ireland is pretty weak at projecting OL talent outside of the obvious 1st round talent dudes.

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> I dont consider any player drafted after the 2nd
> round a bust.

A kicker or punter drafted in the 3rd round that didn't work out would be a bust. As for OG, that's arguable.

Jerry is a bust guys.

Guys drafted after the 2nd round are not even garaunteed to make the roster.....how can you then consider them a bust or not?

And BTW, if you drafted a kicker or punter higher than the 3rd, you have major problems.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

Guys if you get drafted i dont care in what round and you cannot play you are a bust.

In baseball players get drafted in the 50th or 60th round and some become good and some become busts.

IMHO either you are a bust or you are not.

And i respectfully disagree with A and O.

Problem is time spent grooming them and taking up roster space and not evolving or contributing.

Its a bad investment ot resources...aka bust.

His brother didn't amount to much in Atl either.

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bust is if you dont make the team unless drafted sixth round or later. i expect a third round pick to make the team and contribute at some point before his rookie contract expires. this is a reasonable expectation and if he is cut then he is a bust

Oh...I guess this thread is not about Jerry's HOF bust.