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You're the GM
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: March 01, 2011 05:39PM

Poll
Who should the Phins choose at 15 if available?
Only registered users are allowed to vote for this poll.
19 votes were received.
Jake Locker 0
 
0%
Cam Newton 5
 
26%
Ryan Mallet 5
 
26%
Mark Ingram 0
 
0%
Drop down and pick up a second round pick 9
 
47%



Who would you take?

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Re: You're the GM
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: March 01, 2011 05:40PM

Gabbert or Newton have the most upside IMO

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Re: You're the GM
Posted by: Phinsfan2 ()
Date: March 01, 2011 05:46PM


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Re: You're the GM
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: March 01, 2011 05:57PM

I would take Mallet or Locker. Newton sems to be a long term project, and the next Vince young, Jemarcus Russell.

If gone, drop down and go after Ponder or kaepernick, Dalton or McElroy. It may be best to choose the latter and pick up some speed.

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Re: You're the GM
Posted by: Phinsfan2 ()
Date: March 01, 2011 06:11PM


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Re: You're the GM
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: March 01, 2011 06:24PM

Seems to have similar charcteristics, great athletes strong arms, but not great passers. He also has really only 1 year of competition at a high level. Could be a diamond in the right program like Rodgers getting 2-3 years under a veteran, not our situation unless we sign an FA QB. Bulger or Volek might be worth a look

If gone, drop down and go after Ponder or
> kaepernick, Dalton or McElroy. It may be best to
> choose the latter and pick up some speed.

"Haven't we wasted enough second round picks on project QB's this decade (Henne, White, Beck, Culpepper, Feeley)?? "

I feel youre pain, We haven't done well since Marino left. Brady, Romo, are not bad late round picks, but most were high picks. If we are willing to spend on FA WR, RB, and OL go after a QB, but we can't reach

Who really knows who the top 3 QB's will be in this draft.

I like Thigpen over henne, so does our top WR.

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Re: You're the GM
Posted by: DaytonaDolfan13 ()
Date: March 02, 2011 04:08PM

I ONLY agree with trading down if CAM NEWTON is already off the board.

-Remember when JJ phucked us up by trading our selection because certainly the #1WR would be off the board by 18th , but he was and we missed RANDY MOSS.

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Re: You're the GM
Posted by: Mia1 ()
Date: March 03, 2011 02:45AM


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Re: You're the GM
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: March 03, 2011 04:01AM

If I'm the GM I am looking at Mallett at #15...if he's not there I take Julio Jones if he's there...if they are both gone then I take Locker or Newton as a consolation prize.

For our team I see more value at taking a big, fast WR in the first round than I do in taking a QB...unless that is, a gem falls to us.

I'd be really happy his year with us getting Jones (assuming he falls to us) in the first and Kappernick in the third. Or with trading some picks, moving up into the second and still getting Kappernick.

I didn't mention Gabbert because I don't think there is a snowball's chance in Heck that he's there at 15.

Ingram I also don't take, even if he's available ay 15.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/03/2011 11:32AM by Ken.

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Re: You're the GM
Posted by: GBOFinFan ()
Date: March 03, 2011 05:04AM

If I'm GM, here's what I'm thinking...

Julio Jones first choice if available at 15 then Ryan Mallett if Jones isn't there. If neither are available, trade down and work on the OL.

I wouldn't touch Newton in the first round. Too many unknowns and too little exposure.

I also wouldn't pick a RB (Ingram) in the 1st. Shelf life isn't long enough to justify the high draft price. Lots of serviceable RB's available in the later rounds if you want to draft one but that need can easily be addressed with free agency.

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Re: You're the GM
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: March 03, 2011 07:05AM


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Re: You're the GM
Posted by: Leon In Denver ()
Date: March 03, 2011 07:43AM

Phinsfan2 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> jlyell13 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I would take Mallet or Locker. Newton sems to be
> a
> > long term project, and the next Vince young,
> > Jemarcus Russell.
>
> Are you saying he'll be a bust because he's a bad
> player like those guys, or because he has similar
> charachter issues (Lazy, suicidal, selfish)???
>
>
> >
> > If gone, drop down and go after Ponder or
> > kaepernick, Dalton or McElroy. It may be best
> to
> > choose the latter and pick up some speed.
>
> Haven't we wasted enough second round picks on
> project QB's this decade (Henne, White, Beck,
> Culpepper, Feeley)??
>
> If we aren't taking a QB in the first round, I'd
> rather not take a QB at all. Go get a guy that
> makes Henne a backup, or that backs him up, in
> free agency. Don't waste another high pick on a
> back up QB...PLEASE.

Okay Phinsfan, are we starting to get on the same page here? I think we have one more issue to agree on. Don't sell the farm to trade up and grab a QB. Build the team so we have the depth in the next year or two so we can trade up without selling the farm.

What do you think about the new OC and Henne's approach?

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Re: You're the GM
Posted by: Phinsfan2 ()
Date: March 03, 2011 08:40AM


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Re: You're the GM
Posted by: Leon In Denver ()
Date: March 03, 2011 10:21AM

More conviction than hope is a good thing.

Maybe we should be negotiating the CBA. LOLsmileys with beer

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Re: You're the GM
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: March 03, 2011 11:34AM

Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> Quote:
>
> "if they are both gone then I take Locker or
> Newton as a consolation prize."
>
> &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
> Do you realize that Newton will be a top 3 pick,
> and maybe the #1 overall!?


RE: A&O, the entire premise is that these players are there when we pick...if they are not then our discussion of thier selection is moot.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/03/2011 11:35AM by Ken.

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Re: You're the GM
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: March 05, 2011 04:42AM

I think if we can convince Denver to trade their seconds we do this. A lot of talk has all QB's except Gabbert and Newton falling to the second with some going high to Buffalo and Cincy. but if we are taking a QB expect it might ne Ponder, Dalton, or Kaepernick

We could take a QB then best avail WR, OL & RB 2-4, or a potentiasl defensive freak like a Dontay Moch, Don't be surprised if the Pats land him.

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