Baltimore really scored a safety against us. I'm pretty sure the rule is that if our guy touched the ball while he was in the field of play he cannot go back into the endzone, which he did and not have it be a safety.


Had there been a safety, there would have been no interception which the Ravens almost scored a touchdown and a field goal. We were lucky to escape 7 points, then 3 points.

? He muffed it in the endzone its not a safty.

So, and I am not sure of the rules, does that mean that the muffer has to bring it out of the endzone?

Let's suppose that the ball bounces against the guy in the endzone, goes out of the endzone and then a defender recovers it at the 5 yard line, does the ball belong to the kicking team at the 5 yard line first and goal?

Chryn please good god man it was the correct call, which states that if the ball is muffed in the endzone and not brought out, it results in a touchback.

But that assumes the ball is not touched by someone who is NOT in the endzone...doesn't it?

Call the league buddy talk to a official. I gave you all I know on this particular subject sorry.

Well, perhaps our best chance to win IS to take a safety once or twice a game.

Don't make fun, Monti.... We won our first AFC Championship against Pittsburgh on such a play. We were backed up at about our 10 yard line, leading by less than 7 points with very little time to go. The Steelers had all the momentum. It was anticipated that if we punted the ball, they would get a good run back and then take over the lead.

Larry Seiple went back to punt and in one of the most brilliant moves in NFL history, Don Shula had him simply run out of the endzone for a safety.

We then free kicked them back to their own 20 yard line and the no-name defense took over, end of story, we win the game.

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Don't make fun, Monti.... We won our first AFC
> Championship against Pittsburgh on such a play.
> We were backed up at about our 10 yard line,
> leading by less than 7 points with very little
> time to go. The Steelers had all the momentum. It
> was anticipated that if we punted the ball, they
> would get a good run back and then take over the
> lead
>
> Larry Seiple went back to punt and in one of the
> most brilliant moves in NFL history, Don Shula had
> him simply run out of the endzone for a safety.
>

I don't remember THAT game happening that way.

I *do* recall Seiple running out of the endzone on purpose at the end of a game at some point in the early-mid 1970s, icing the win for us, but I'm pretty sure it was not the AFC championship game vs. the Steelers. I think it was a regular season game where Seiple took that intentional safety.

The one play by Seiple I *DO* recall during the 1972 championship game vs the Steelers was when he faked a punt *entirely on his own* and just ran it up the field undetected for a long way...something like 40 yards. But since this play was not called, even his fellow Phins weren't even aware of the fake until the play was half over. It was an awesome play to watch as a little kid and absolutely one of the best plays in team history.

My memory was definitely that it was in that championship game but, in any event, taking a safety can be a good play rather than punting from the end zone, of course, assuming it is late in the game.

Well, at least I got the opposing team right. Whaddayah, expect? I'm an old man with Alzheimers!

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Well, at least I got the opposing team right.
> Whaddayah, expect? I'm an old man with
> Alzheimers!


Hey, all I could seem to remember was that it was a night game and I was too young to stay up and watch the end of it.

I think it was also the same MNF game where Dick Anderson had an absolutely superhuman performance. Why can't we clone those guys or something!

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Don't make fun, Monti.... We won our first AFC
> Championship against Pittsburgh on such a play.
> We were backed up at about our 10 yard line,
> leading by less than 7 points with very little
> time to go. The Steelers had all the momentum. It
> was anticipated that if we punted the ball, they
> would get a good run back and then take over the
> lead.
>
> Larry Seiple went back to punt and in one of the
> most brilliant moves in NFL history, Don Shula had
> him simply run out of the endzone for a safety.
>
> We then free kicked them back to their own 20 yard
> line and the no-name defense took over, end of
> story, we win the game.

Close but not quite accurate. Was not the AFC championship game. I think it might have been Grease that took the snap on 3rd down, went back in the endzone. He was suppose to run around back there taking some more time off the clock, but he got antsie and stepped out of the endzone.
I have this game on CD. I'll have to check it out when I get a chance.
Isn't that the game when Anderson picked off 3 and returned 2 for TDs?

Bradshaw was a rookie and came in for Gilliam (sp) or someone. God, Terry stunk it up for his first couple years. But, boy could he throw the rock.

Say this is a little off subject, but does anyone remember what Lambert said about the rule change of (in the grasp)?
Well he said "I think they should all ware skirts". When Bradshaw was told that, he said, "What ever Jack says is fine with me".

I hated the Steelers back then, but they were one hell of a team.