Well ok we traded one returner for another.

Hope he can return a td or two!! I would also love to see him develop into a fantastic Nickle corner, heck a solid starter anywhere would be awsome!!

carroll has shown nothing. our return game looks like it's going to really suck. hell we should have kept ginn just as a returner. well, maybe not

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> carroll has shown nothing. our return game looks
> like it's going to really suck. hell we should
> have kept ginn just as a returner. well, maybe not


He's the best of a bad bunch.

how are we in this position? a kr should not be this hard to find. you can get them in the 5th or 6th round (only we spend a top 10 pick on them)

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> how are we in this position? a kr should not be
> this hard to find. you can get them in the 5th or
> 6th round (only we spend a top 10 pick on them)

Then we should have used that 5th rounder we got for Ginn (1st round) for one. How are we in this position??? as I posted earlier, we blew our investment. We gave away one of our first round draft choice receivers for a fifth rounder. Oh by the way, the guy already made the NFL Hall of Fame, due to his two kick returns for TD in a single game (in the Jets game two last year).

Couldn't catch??? I know, but he sure could return.

That's how we're in this position...

Welker to the Pats, Taylor to the Jets, Ginn to San Francisco for a fifth, Camarillo to the Vikings (looked pretty good last night, also). We're starting to become a laughing stock around the league with these ridiculous transactions. Anybody else out there have any glaring needs? Come on down to Miami and mine us for some talent.

P.S. looks like Taylor is going to be starting for the Jets as a WSLB, anybody want to wager how many sacks he has against Henne?? Especially after I witnessed the brilliant performance of our protective offensive line against Atlanta.

chrisnnavarre Wrote:
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> berkeley223 Wrote:
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> -----
> > how are we in this position? a kr should not be
> > this hard to find. you can get them in the 5th
> or
> > 6th round (only we spend a top 10 pick on them)
>
> Then we should have used that 5th rounder we got
> for Ginn (1st round) for one.

Uhh...that's EXACTLY what we did. Nolan Carroll was drafted in the 5th round.

yes but carroll is no kick returner. we're just usinf him there bc we have no one else. i don't think he even returned kicks at maryland

The Nollan Carroll "hype" has gone way too far. The guy only started 5 games in college. In 3 preseason games he hasn't been able to cover anybody. And he has had about 3 average kick returns. AND I AM NOT KNOCKING THE GUY, I AM GLAD HE IS A DOLPHIN!!!! But lets be honest about what he is.

I hate to break it to people but he looks like a 5th round pick right now. The fact he had a bunch of good "practices" picking off balls from the likes of Tyler Thigpen and Pat White really doesn't get me all that excited.

In a couple years could Carroll be a 3rd CB for us and maybe a threat as a kickoff return guy, sure. But in the year 2010 I don't want this guy anywhere near the field for this team on defense. And while I'm not toally down on him as a kick returner, if a better option came available I wouldn't be upset if we took him out of that role.

Just remember that they are still mixing and matching the ST's unit and most of these guys won't even be on the team come week one.

Our speed on ST's should be improved this year once the starters are nailed down and we will see Nolan improving on his 24 yard per return average.

I am less excited about Bess at PR...don't expect any big punt returns this year.

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sam sheilds? that guy couldn't catch a cold. I don't want him anywhere near kickoffs or punts for this team.

Hall from Philly. Miami was scouting him a few weeks back. Can play RB/WR but mainly is a KR/PR!

Keey an eye on what Philly does with him

dolfanmark Wrote:
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>
> I think Marlon Moore will get a chance to be the
> punt returner before the season is over, provided
> he can gain the coaches' confidence in catching
> the punts cleanly.

I think you are right. Marlon is a bit more physical than Bess, which means we may see less fair catches.

like I've been saying, our KR is not on this team yet. he'll be arriving soon after the final cut down day

sam sheilds was terrible at UM. so unless there is some kind of bodysnatching thing going on, I can't imagine him being any good in the pros

I think everyone is going over board with everything.

As Mikeo pointed out lets wait, but I will say to week 3 before we start calling heads!!

Phinsfan2 Wrote:
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> MikeO Wrote:
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> > Hall from Philly. Miami was scouting him a few
> > weeks back. Can play RB/WR but mainly is a
> KR/PR!
> >
> > Keey an eye on what Philly does with him
>
>
> Not sure why we'd be interested in a guy that has
> returned 7 punts this preseason at 4.3 yards per,
> and 4 kickoffs at 18.5 yards a pop.


Because he has more potential than that and is better than anything we got

Carroll had one big return in the Jacksonville game where he showed great speed to the outside. He also almost broke the first return of the game this week. He is really fast. And he's done a solid job.