4 out of 8 linebackers?

One thing that impressed me most that was continually flashed on the board was that although we were no. 22 in defense, on offense, we were only number 17. Not much better.

I don't have any problem with the safety pick and maybe the corner pick but to only pick one offensive lineman, no tight end and no running back, ridiculous draft!

I've said a million times we are at trouble at RB just wait and see but hmm, let see, we try to get the skilled positions from trade and use our draft (where you are supposed to get your stars) to draft linebackers? Unless you're talking Ray Lewis............

We got Ronnie and Ricky this year. We aren't in trouble at RB. We aren't in a place to be drafting a RB who will be 3rd on the depth chart and be wearing a baseball cap all year and add nothing.

And linebackers aren't stars??? Hmm, seems like everyone was bitching and moaning about our STAR linebacker signing with the Jets. Lots of crying over a non-star!! Please your lost on this issue

MikeO Wrote:
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> We got Ronnie and Ricky this year. We aren't in
> trouble at RB. We aren't in a place to be drafting
> a RB who will be 3rd on the depth chart and be
> wearing a baseball cap all year and add nothing.

RESPONSE: Already said my position on this board a million times.


>
> And linebackers aren't stars???

RESPONSE: Ray Lewis and Mike Singletary and a few others in history carry a team. Few do like Ricky and Ronnie.


Hmm, seems like
> everyone was bitching and moaning about our STAR
> linebacker signing with the Jets. Lots of crying
> over a non-star!!

RESPONSE: Not me. To me it was just a respect thing for JT.


Please your lost on this issue

RESPONSE: You sound like you are saying "Please, Chy, give up."

Why don't you try clicking your heels together three times and saying "There's no place like home, Auntie Em."

MikeO Wrote:
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> so you want to play with no linebackers?
RESPONSE: Great logic, great extroplation! .
>
> To steal a quote from Mel Kiper...Some people have
> no idea what the draft is about. Obviously you are
> one of them

RESPONSE: Wow, MikeO, now you sound like ninety percent of the people on the board except me talking about your own football knowledge in general.


> Our defense was downright awful and you want us to
> be drafting 3rd string running backs who won't
> play. Yeah, ok!!

RESPONSE: Yeah, after all our defense at 22 is SO MUCH WORSE THAN OUR sterling No. 17 ranked offense.

I think the only positions on offense we could have used were guard, depth at RB, and TE. I'm fine with taking mostly D since it didn't look like there were players below the 3d round at those positions were drafting, except for TE

I agree with Chyren that this draft was a bit of a disappointment. I disagree over the reason why. I wouldn't have taken a single offensive player as I think we are bleeding on defense. In that respect I agree with Mike. We got Marshall for god's sake. That being said, I would have rather grabbed a future pro bowl FS in Thomas at #12 and then seen our draft play out the way it did from rounds 3-7.

I'm not sure if Odrick and Misi will make our defense better than having added a versatile, ball-hawking, shut down safety. When I think of why we lost games last year I think of Gibril Wilson. We have NOBODY to play FS, which is about as good as having Wilson there. Now, if Odrick and Misi can play safety, then I think we have something.

If we add Atogwe after June 1st or Sharper in a couple weeks.....then the reason we didn't add Earl Thomas becomes more clear.

This was one of the best draft in years, I don't know how you guys can be dissapointed.

toko34 Wrote:
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> This was one of the best draft in years, I don't
> know how you guys can be dissapointed.


Because some people don't know anything about football. They don't understand how you build a team. That you can't address every little nit-picky NEED in one draft. And when your strong at RB, you can't go add a RB who won't play this year instead of adding a LB who MIGHT play and is NEEDED this year!!

miami added a lot of depth and youth to the defense. this defense will only get better and S is a piece that can be added next off season. this is a young defense with a good young core. i also want a ball hawking FS but i think that can be addressed next draft.

MikeO Wrote:
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> We added BRANDON MARSHALL to our offense last
> week!!! Why don't you get that!! Bess goes back to
> being a slot WR. Hartline can be a #2 now. Ginn is
> gone. BRANDON MARSHALL was our draft! He fixed our
> offense. Our o-line is better. We have 4 QB's!!!

RESPONSE: Stop screaming. You are a nut. Where did I ever say anything about WR or QB. I said TE, OL, and RB.

> Our tight ends fill the role they are asked. Who
> do you want on offense for us to draft? A 5th WR
> who won't play? A 3rd RB who won't play?

RESPONSE: And what if Ronnie is traded or goes down with another injury and something happens to Ricky (being old)?

Another
> FB who won't play? A 5th QB who won't play??
>
> Also Ronnie Brown will be back!!!! That improves
> our offense.
>
> Jees, is that so difficult to understand??

RESPONSE: You are the one who does not understand? You are counting on things that last year would give anybody but a fool to feel nervous about.


There
> was NO NEED to draft offense! That side of the
> ball is set for the 2010 season.


RESPONSE: Yeah, the 17th best is SET! HOT DOG!

>
> On defense we had holes everywhere, especially at
> linebacker. In a 3-4, we play 4 of them. And after
> Dansby everyone sucked!!

RESPONSE: Does that mean that LB is half our draft and we don't try to fill it at all in free agency?

It just wasnt a flashy draft, I thought it was solid, but it wasn't as people would say a draft that sells tickets.

dolphin1423 Wrote:
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> miami added a lot of depth and youth to the
> defense. this defense will only get better and S
> is a piece that can be added next off season.
> this is a young defense with a good young core. i
> also want a ball hawking FS but i think that can
> be addressed next draft.


Might be addressed June 1st when the Rams make a decision. Or if Daren Sharper (who spends a lot of time in S.Florida) is someone Mike Nolan can bring in. Nolan brought Brian Dawkins into Denver to help him run his young defense. Is Sharper that "dawkins-type" for Miami?! Maybe!

It was 17th best WITHOUT Brandon Marshall. With a rookie QB. And with Ronnie Brown for half the year.

Yes, the offense is now SET!!! And I think the front office agrees since they spent 3 days and did literally NOTHING to add to the offense!

Wake Up and walk into reality!!!

i like adding sharper or hamlin this year then drafting an elite FS in next years draft. unless of course clemons, jones, or culver develops(unlikely). i want DeAndre McDaniel next draft. he is sick.

MikeO Wrote:
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> It was 17th best WITHOUT Brandon Marshall. With a
> rookie QB. And with Ronnie Brown for half the
> year. Yes, the offense is now SET!!! >
And I think the
> front office agrees since they spent 3 days and
> did literally NOTHING to add to the offense!
>

RESPONSE: Then following your logic with one more year under his belt and the same injury prone Ronnie, NO DOUBT IN THE WORLD WE'LL BE IN THE TOP FIVE OFFENSES? NOT!

> Wake Up and walk into reality!!!

RESPONSE: "There you go again" Ronald Reagan. It's you who are sleepwalking if you think we can go into next season with a great young quarterback granted and a potentially good WR but with little else that does not depend on a wing and a prayer.

Have to agree with MikeO on almost all of his points. Very solid draft, and we are pretty set on O for this year, address RB/TE in next years draft. Anyone that can't get excited about all of the much needed additions this year will never be happy.

You want to draft 7 different positions in 7 different rounds and expect every guy to be a HOME RUN.....doesn't work that way. You don't get how the draft works and how you build an NFL team.

MikeO Wrote:
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> You want to draft 7 different positions in 7
> different rounds and expect every guy to be a HOME
> RUN.....

RESPONSE:

YOUR assumption.

>doesn't work that way. You don't get how
> the draft works and how you build an NFL team.

RESPONSE:

YOUR conclusion.

Do not forget David Martin will come back healthy who would you rather have a rookie or a proven veteran play maker just asking.

We signed David Martin?

Odenn Wrote:
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> We signed David Martin?


NO. He was medically released last year. We aren't bringing him back.

No I think he is on injured reserve.

Phinsfan2 Wrote:
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> ChyrenB Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > MikeO Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > We added BRANDON MARSHALL to our offense last
> > > week!!! Why don't you get that!! Bess goes
> back
> > to
> > > being a slot WR. Hartline can be a #2 now.
> Ginn
> > is
> > > gone. BRANDON MARSHALL was our draft! He
> fixed
> > our
> > > offense. Our o-line is better. We have 4
> > QB's!!!
> >
> > RESPONSE: Stop screaming. You are a nut.
> Where
> > did I ever say anything about WR or QB. I said
> > TE, OL, and RB.
> >
> > > Our tight ends fill the role they are asked.
> > Who
> > > do you want on offense for us to draft? A 5th
> > WR
> > > who won't play? A 3rd RB who won't play?
> >
> > RESPONSE: And what if Ronnie is traded or goes
> > down with another injury and something happens
> to
> > Ricky (being old)?
> >
>
>
> Bob, its one thing to say we need to draft a RB.
> Its another to say who and what roster spot they
> are going to get.
>
> Going into the draft we had:
>
> Brown....legit big time starter.
> Williams...legit 1000 backup.
> Cobbs...loved by staff...big special teamer.
> Hilliard...power back and ecxellent special
> teamer.
> Sheets...smaller, faster back with upside.
>
>
> What might or might not happen injury wise next
> season is immaterial. You have to fill out your
> roster NOW.
>
>
> So which two or three are you going to cut and
> whom are you going to draft to replace them?

RESPONSE: Easy. Like in most instances, you let the pre-season make the determination. You certainly are not arguing that no team ever drafts without making immediate decisions in April as to their expected roster.

It is even more easier in our case as Ronnie and Ricky's status remains uncertain.